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try rebooting your box!

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Got the countdown screen showing on mine :tu:

Well done Proppin & Co ;)

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Not going to happen atm since I'm watching battlestar.

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One reboot later and success :tu:

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I just flicked over to see the countdown (during the break)..... I think I can cope without a countdown clock, back to battlestar galactica :)

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LOL....well u won't miss owt then will you ;)

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Seems to have been a bit last-minute. Both NTL and Sky websites are still showing Plus schedules for today - 1st Nov.

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Yes, from what I can gather info given at the last minute :erm:

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Okay - re-booted - 20 seconds to go :D

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Do we take it then that ITV3 is just a re-badged Plus?

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I hope so otherwise I'm gonna miss all the old episodes of Bullseye :cry:

All going well here so far :D

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kinda but the programmes aren't as old!! think same but better

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Flameing steaming i am remove plus and replace it with yet another amaze your friends repeat channel i just knew this digi lark was going to be trouble in the long run these cable companys can control to much in my opinion we are geting more and more like the usa every day :mad: :mad: :mad:

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The break bumpers are saying 'Frost Tuesdays'.....yet it's Rebus, and it's Monday.

Whoops!

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Hmmm..seems it's different every time. Odd. Must be to promote other programmes.

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WE have an echo in here. ;)

Well is it any good.Are there useful repeats?

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Not sure this has anything whatsoever to do with cablecos. ITV have bought Granada Plus and re-launched it as ITV3, after conning everyone into thinking ITV3 was a NEW channel. It's on Freeview and Sky as well as cable.

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That is not true really as this only seems to have happened in the last day or so. Sky sold 49.5% of Granada to ITV so they could get ITV 3 on sky today.

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still either way no matter whats gone on we still have been conned

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While I totally agree that the loss of Plus is a crying shame (one of the few family pack channels I actually watched, when I had the FP), it's hardly a con ... Plus was a FP channel, ITV3 is now a base pack channel, and if ITV3 carries any of the good stuff from Plus (The Professionals, Man from UNCLE, Department S, etc etc etc) I will be deliriously happy. I do worry though that none of that stuff will be considered mainstream enough for a channel carrying the ITV branding any more, in which case there is now no outlet for those kinds of programmes and I am a very sad bunny indeed.

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It's a shame about the demise of Plus as it was one of the few channels with a range of popular programmes.

My wife enjoyed watching Remington Steele and is hoping that it will appear somewhere in the ITV3 scheduling, but I'm not holding my breath.

I did get an e-mail from Plus to say that they were closing down and when I checked their channel (101 on the Bromley Platform) they were displaying a Granada Sky Broadcasting logo.

This made me wonder what NTL will use that channel number for as ITV3 is on channel 8. Maybe, that logo will eventually disappear or pehaps the number will be reallocated to another channel.

Perhaps, Sam B can enlighten us as to what is happening.

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I am on NTL Analouge TV... ITV3 was supose to be on Ch8 :confused:


But nothing shows up... Only UK Gold & the Black Screen saying Ring NTL...

Any ideas?

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Its a digital only channel as far as i know

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It was promoted as available on digital cable & Freeview. No mention of analogue.

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The adverts I thought differ?? :confused:

Quote:

NTL 8 (Analouge) & 118 Digital???

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Fraid not 8 os bromley digital, 118 langley digital :)

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The Picture is crap, just like the FILM 4 CHANNELS, which I got rid of for that very reason. Shame about PLUS.

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well what a waste that channel was last night.. A Complete load of rubbish on it and it was only on from 21:00 for a few hours then it goes into a shopping channel all night.

Anyone know what the actual point of ITV3 is apart from making money through advertising ?

I can just see it being full of repeats and no real alternative to the Corrie, Emerdale soap rubbish we get at the moment.

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ITV appears to be worried at the fragmentation of the viewing audience from the traditional, all-ages model into channels specially devised for certain age groups. It's trying to protect its advertising revenue by ensuring it still has slots that advertisers who want to reach thirtysomethings will pay for.

In the light of the pasting BBC3 got the other week, in a report that questioned the need for such a narrow focus on age groups, I'm not so sure ITV has got its strategy right.

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Is it true ITV3 will NOT be on the Analogue service? If so, just what the hell am I paying for? This is another channel dropped from our service and seems like NTL are deliberately alienating their Anlogue customers in an effort to force us to go digital.

My mother is absolutely furious, I had to stop her phoning NTL up as she'd would have laid into them something rotten, and probably got us cut off permanently, she's that mad!

We have 2 Analogue STB's as we can't afford 2 Digital boxes, that's why we still have Analogue, now we are getting even less for our money I think we should get a reduction in our bill if ITV3 is not being offered! But I can see us cancelling as Granada Plus was one of the channels my Mother always watched, now what is she going to do?

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<Michael Winner>Calm down dear-it's only a TV channel!</Michael Winner> :angel:

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I am coming into this very late so apologies. But, if anyone's still interested, I can give some background info.

We were planning to launch ITV3 yesterday to digital viewers only, which we did - channel 8 on Bromley and 118 on Langley.

We weren't told anything about Plus closing down until late yesterday, as it was happening. This was the same for Sky and Telewest customers. So, we had no time to prepare any kind of communication for customers. We now have messages up on both analogue and digital, which should be in all areas, saying that the channel is no longer broadcasting, and directing digital customers to ITV3.

ITV have asked us to advise the following:
Plus has become ITV3. ITV3 will show your favourite Plus programming as well as Hollywood Movies and great shows from the US. ITV3 is available on Freeview, Sky, ntl and Telewest, and broadcasts 24 hours a day.

I have a number for their duty office if anyone wants to ask them more specific questions, but they have advised that it is currently very busy, so PM me directly if you want this.

Our analogue customers have clearly been the most affected as they have lost a channel which hasn't been replaced. Apologies, but we simply didn't know that this would be the case and so it was never a part of our discussions so this is only being looked at now.

Someone else asked what plans we now have for the digital channel numbers that have been freed up, but I wouldn't think we would make any changes once the Plus channel (now with message showing on it) is removed, later this month.

Sam

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And you think that's funny?

I have lost a channel that will not be replaced with ITV3, my bill will still be the same but I am now getting LESS for my money! My mother takes comfort in watching TV as my father died last year and it gives her something to do and watch in the evening and Plus was her favourite channel. I don't see anything funny in belittling Anaolgue customers because we are getting yet another raw deal!!

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Valid point, but what's the point of ranting at ntl? It's nothing to do with them. The channel has been pulled by its owners, who do not want ITV3 on analogue.

Analogue is an obsolete service and no new channels will be launched on it. Sky and ntl told their customers this years ago, with the crucial difference that Sky FORCED its customers off analogue onto digital. ntl and telewest still give existing customers the choice whether to upgrade to digital, but if you decline, it's no good complaining as the channels drop off. Sorry, but that's the harsh reality of it.

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You don't get the choice if you live in a NTL analogue only area, you just keep getting less and less for your money. As they lose channels on analogue they should reduce the price for it.

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In analogue-only areas I'd agree with you 100%.

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:confused: After 8 years of charging customers to view "Plus", they are now saying that the same programs will be shown on ITV3 for free! :confused:

It seems like ITV must have money to burn at the moment, considering they have just paid Sky £10mill ion and will now be showing programmes for free, which they previously charged for.

I'll believe it when I see it!

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I've got electricity

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No offence meant (hence the :angel: )

I don't think anyone is trying to 'belittle' you at all.
ITV have stopped broadcasting a channel, nothing more sinister than that....

Like I said, no offence meant. :)

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Sorry as well Neil, I just got a little upset as you can imagine as now I'm in an awkward position as my mother doesn't understand why she can't watch Plus anymore unless we go digital and why she's still paying for a degraded service :(

I feel NTL ought to just drop the analogue service altogether and offer their users a decent upgrade to a digital package in compensation for the ever decreasing number of analogue channels.

I think a call to NTL is in order just to see what's what!

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Can anyone enlighten me as to why people who have the option of digital are still on analogue? I'm guessing it's nothing to do with cost as you wouldn't have cable in the first place.

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It looks like cost is may be the issue (in WJ's case anyway)

Web-Junkie-perhaps the answer is for you to ditch the 2 analogue boxes, & just have one digital box?

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If ITV3 is supposed to be broadcasting 24hrs a day then why is at least 6 hours devoted to teleshopping and a text service? Doesn't count as 24hrs to me.

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Analogue base pack = £3.50/month. Digital Base pack = £10/month. Need I say more? The day ntl's digital base pack is available at £3.50/month I'll be on the phone to them.

Anyway Sam B's post sounded promising for us analogue customers. I can appreciate that ntl have been thrust into a difficult situation, but I can't see any reason why both ITV and ntl wouldn't want to simply replace Plus with ITV3. I know Granada Plus used to timeshare woth Men+Motors, on analogue, not sure if this is still the case (don't sub to the appropriate pack), but even if it is then NTL could fill up the daytime space with ITV3, or another channel if ITV are unwilling to broadcast on analogue (ABC1 broadcasts daytime only ;))

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But you must admit for £3.50 per month you still get a good selection of channels. It looks as if the channel owners want to pull out of analogue.

Perhaps NTL could freeze the price for a year instead!

(Watch out for those flying pigs....)

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The point being though, if you can't/won't pay for the superior service, don't complain about the fact that the one you have is inferior.

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Errr-I wasn't....:erm:

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No mention of Sky either, so it could well appear on Analogue shortly. Whether or not it does appears to be out of NTL's control. If it doesn't, I would hazard a guess that a lot of analogue customers will switch to Freeview - good for the planned analogue switch-off, but perhaps not so good for NTL.

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I think the commnt was addressed to web_junkie, and was a little unfair. The complaint was not that the analogue service was inferior, but that having subscribed, largely to view Plus, the plug had been pulled (even if not by NTL) with no notice and no reduction in charge. A legitimate gripe, I think.

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No, I didn't mean you...I meant whoever was. I should have said 'one cannot complain' but that sounds a bit posh.

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You won't be able to get Plus even if you do go digital - it has ended for everyone - analogue, digital, cable, satellite, Sky, ntl, Telewest, whatever - it's gone. What has launched is ITV3, which is a different channel (although it may be showing some of the same shows on occasion).

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OK, I seem to have started a bit of a reaction here so let's clear it up before it degenerates into something else.

I have anologue, due to the fact 2 STB's on analogue are cheaper than 2 Digital STB's and it was what my father budgeted for when considering all the other bills he had to pay. Granada Plus is no more as stated, and ITV3 is the 'new Plus' as it were with all the programming that used to be on the Plus channel.

I accept analogue is a limited service and digital is the 'daddy', it's just disappointing that NTL can't negotiate a deal for their still loyal analogue customers in light of ITV3, loyalty is still a key factor for NTL isn't it irrespective if they are analogue or digital customers?

If NTL's hands are tied then it's obviously not NTL's fault, and if it's not technically possible to give ITV3 to analogue customers then I hold my hands up and leave it at that, but as a paying customer I'm at least entitled to voice my concerns for the analogue customer.

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I have Analouge because I did try Digital (but after 2 months of NT-Hell :mad: I was on the phone every day & getting the Tech Dept out weekly. The signal was CREPE, E4 was cutting up & pixelating. It would Freeze like C5 for 30mins) so I phoned "X-Ray" like the BBC show Watchdog & got NTL on it.

Then they offered me my OLD Analouge TV back & a huge discount. :D

NEVER will I return to NTL Digital.. (Freeview or Sky here I come if NTL stop Analouge)

With Analouge TV (NTL) you can Record 1 Channel 7 watch another (all for £3.50 PCM) so for me to get that Service on NTL it would cost 2x £10 Digital TV... :dunce:

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I cant understand why they have stopped the Plus channel. Proper ********s who wanted ****in ITV3 anyway???? At least Plus had some decent stuff on.

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Blame $ky for that one.

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why blame $ky :confused:

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:confused: :confused:

What on earth has it got to do with Sky? :erm:

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at a guess i think he means that cos sky sold their stake in Gplus to itv to make way for ITV3 on sky and thus taken Gplus off air!

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as sky sold what shares they had in G+ to ITV. wouldnt that mean ITV killed off G+?

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$ky and ITV are to blame really.

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I just think it's a **** pour set of events and im really ****ed off about it. ITV are useless!

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My dad likes all the old stuff that was on G+ and was well gutted when it got dropped. He isn't too impressed with itv3, although personally its nice to see the re-runs of la law.

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So to get ITV3 on digital is going to cost me extra!

I pay £37.50 for analogue, that includes 1 extra STB @ £7, £13.50 for the Family Pack and £17 for the Sports Pack. Compared to digital, it would cost us £33 for the Family Pack and Sports, and and an extra £15 for another STB, total of £48. Sky digital would cost £43 for their Family Pack, Sports and Multiroom.

Oh, and we HAVE to have NTL's phone service if we want digital so that's another £9.50 if you don't already have a phone (I do have an NTL phoneline fortunately). Sky don't specifically mention you HAVE to have a phone, they only state you need to plug the box into a land based phone line to receive the interactive bits, so If I don't have a phone I don't get the interactive? no great loss there then!

So NTL digital is going to cost me £10.50 more per month and Sky digital £5.50, guess which one we are now considering! The only drawback is Sky only warrant the box for 1 year (NTL rent you the box) and optionally want you to pay an extra £69 per year per box for an extended warranty :eek:

Sky seems a better option as I keep hearing about poor NTL digital picture, freezes and pixelation from friends and this forum, but no one I know who has Sky has had problems.

Please don't jump down my throat if I've got something wrong or mis-quoted anything, I compared NTL and Sky and that's more or less how I understand it.

All this just to highlight what an anolgue customer (me) must pay to get ITV3!! :) (barring Freeview).

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the only draw back with sky multiroom is that you all have to watch the same channel AFAIK :)

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"Sky Multiroom lets you watch different Sky channels in different rooms at the same time. You simply need a Multiroom subscription and an extra Sky box or a Sky+ box, to enjoy the same choice of channels on another TV"

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Which is going to cost a pretty penny :)

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Maybe Freeview is your answer.The cost of Free-to-air boxes is coming down all the time. For a one off payment you can have ITV3 and possibly some other channels which you may not have and for probably less than a fiver a month.

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Yes, why not get Freeview? You can buy a Freeview box for about the cost of a months subscription to Sky.

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Not much good if you want the sports channels.

I would go for Sky and get the box for free. You can pick up a second hand box quite cheaply to use in a second viewing position and maybe make do with just the FTA channels or £10 for a mirror subscription on this. I wouldn't bother with the Sky repair plan as my experience is they rarely go wrong and if they do it costs £65 for a call out and replacement box if required.

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From Skys site:

So you can watch 2 different channels at the same time :)

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Only if yer watching a movie and the mrs is watching something about sharks though.

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Just to clarify on this point - Sky offer a reduced/free of charge installation and free digital box on the condition that you keep your digibox plugged into a working landline 24/7 (regardless of interactive or no). If you don't, then they are legally entitled to bill you the full cost of the installation plus cost of the digital box as per the contract you agree when you signup with them.

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True, but AFAIK this is only a condition for the first 12 months. After that, you can unplug the box from your phone line.

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I wasn't sure about the phonline and Sky as I couldn't find any info about this on Skys site and their Terms & Conditions.

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but that is only if u have 1 digi box. if u have 2 or more then u must keep all boxes conected 2 the the same phone line @ all times even after the 12 months.

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If you take advantage of any of Skys subsidised schemes they say that the digibox should be connected to a phoneline for the first 12 months. Some try to say a BT phoneline but it doesn't have to be, mine's connected to a NTL line. Don't worry about incurring call charges if it is connected as you are always warned about any cost before connection. I have never incurred any call costs in the many years I have been with Sky.

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How often do sky boxes go tits up though? Are they reliable after 12 months or do Sky self destruct them on purpose to get a repair out of you :)

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My parents' Sky box, which was bought in November 1998 (before they started giving them away free!), is still going strong, but is unbelievably slow.

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I've just looked on ntl's page and it doesn't list itv3 as a channel. Is it included in the base pack?

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Yep, Channel 8 on the Bromley platform and 118 on Langley

Digital channel only as well :(

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Thank you for that quick response :D

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:)
peeps are too quick for me :dozey: