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greencreeper 04-10-2004 01:09

Re: Spam spam spam spam spam spam
 
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Originally Posted by Matth
The Regexp filter plugin for Spampal - NOT for the fainthearted - there is a preset ruleset for it, but it's rather "fuzzy matched".

Agree :D There are loads of pre-set rules - I've added a few myself.

Nidge 04-10-2004 06:01

Re: Spam spam spam spam spam spam
 
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Originally Posted by Russ D
Isn't "bouncing" emails back the worse thing you can do?


I was tought that.

Nidge 04-10-2004 06:04

Re: Spam spam spam spam spam spam
 
I use this http://www.spam-stop.co.uk/ try it free for 30 days then £5 per month after that. All spam is deleted at the server so nothing gets through to you.

Paul 04-10-2004 10:10

Re: Spam spam spam spam spam spam
 
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Originally Posted by theblueraja
Not when he's bouncing it to his own hotmail account, which will have decent spam filtering before it reaches the inbox.

Bouncing them simply creates more traffic to overload mail servers - imagine if one million spams sent also generated one million mail bounces :eek:.

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Originally Posted by Nidge
I use this http://www.spam-stop.co.uk/ try it free for 30 days then £5 per month after that. All spam is deleted at the server so nothing gets through to you.

Great if you want to spend £5 month, and give a stranger access to your mailbox. :disturbd: As I have said many times in all the Spam topics we get, there are plenty of free spam filters out there - the one I use is Popfile, and it's sucess rate is currently 99%.

FYI: Once you start getting Spam, it will normally continue as Spammers generally asume that any e-mail address they don't get a delivery failure for is a valid address.

Nidge 04-10-2004 16:28

Re: Spam spam spam spam spam spam
 
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Originally Posted by Paul M
Bouncing them simply creates more traffic to overload mail servers - imagine if one million spams sent also generated one million mail bounces :eek:.

Great if you want to spend £5 month, and give a stranger access to your mailbox. :disturbd: As I have said many times in all the Spam topics we get, there are plenty of free spam filters out there - the one I use is Popfile, and it's sucess rate is currently 99%.

FYI: Once you start getting Spam, it will normally continue as Spammers generally asume that any e-mail address they don't get a delivery failure for is a valid address.


No stranger gets access to your mailbox.

Paul 04-10-2004 16:39

Re: Spam spam spam spam spam spam
 
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Originally Posted by Nidge
No stranger gets access to your mailbox.

So how do they access your mail on the mail server then ?

Matth 04-10-2004 19:15

Re: Spam spam spam spam spam spam
 
These days, they cannot get the delivery failures, since they spew their junk from an open proxy, with a fake address.

What CONFIRMS you as receiving, is the fact that most of them include an image hotlink, which may be tagged to identify your address.

I firewall my mail client against HTTP - there may be a better way, and it makes newsletters messy, but it means nobody can get any tracking feedback on my email!

Matthew 05-10-2004 00:02

Re: Spam spam spam spam spam spam
 
Bad idea to bounce as they know that e-mail address in active.

27 spam since yesterday. It was 12 at 2319 yesterday.

Flubflow 05-10-2004 00:17

Re: Spam spam spam spam spam spam
 
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Originally Posted by Nidge
I use this http://www.spam-stop.co.uk/ try it free for 30 days then £5 per month after that. All spam is deleted at the server so nothing gets through to you.

For a lot less than that per month you could get a domain name and some pro webhosting (e.g. I-websolutions - shameless plug) complete with spam protection on your email boxes.

nffc 05-10-2004 00:53

Re: Spam spam spam spam spam spam
 
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Originally Posted by Matth
These days, they cannot get the delivery failures, since they spew their junk from an open proxy, with a fake address.

What CONFIRMS you as receiving, is the fact that most of them include an image hotlink, which may be tagged to identify your address.

I firewall my mail client against HTTP - there may be a better way, and it makes newsletters messy, but it means nobody can get any tracking feedback on my email!

Yes and Mozilla Thunderbird blocks remote images by default.

Matthew 05-10-2004 08:35

Re: Spam spam spam spam spam spam
 
I now use my own domain and I have not had any spam on that account so far (touches wood).

Nidge 05-10-2004 15:55

Re: Spam spam spam spam spam spam
 
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Originally Posted by Paul M
So how do they access your mail on the mail server then ?

Read what it says on their site. :D :D :D :D

Matthew 05-10-2004 18:43

Re: Spam spam spam spam spam spam
 
42 spam since Sunday.

vwman 21-10-2004 22:34

Re: NTL spam
 
I have had sooo much spam through two NTL e-mail I have started to use webmail to check them. Will this stop the spam ? does NTL have any filters when using webmail ?

homealone 21-10-2004 22:44

Re: NTL spam
 
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Originally Posted by vwman
I have had sooo much spam through two NTL e-mail I have started to use webmail to check them. Will this stop the spam ? does NTL have any filters when using webmail ?

good question - no idea of an answer, - but if you forward the problem accounts to hotmail, or gmail, etc they do have very good filters ;)

MovedGoalPosts 21-10-2004 23:19

Re: NTL spam
 
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Originally Posted by vwman
I have had sooo much spam through two NTL e-mail I have started to use webmail to check them. Will this stop the spam ? does NTL have any filters when using webmail ?

Your webmail account is exactly the same service in terms of what goes in and out of it as any email that you send from or to your computer. There are no extra filters. The only noticeable difference with ntlwebmail, is if you send via the web, your message will have an ntl "advert" tag line added as a footer.

The best way to reduce spam is to use an email addy that is difficult for spam programs to guess. Spammers know the ntlworld.com bit, so they then just have software send messages to all the usual derivatives of firstnames, surnames and so on. Get a few random characters and numbers in there and it's harder to guess. Avoid publishing your email addy on websites (spammers scan for those), and be careful who you reply to so your email addy isn't being sent to harvesting sites.

Toreador 22-10-2004 10:46

Re: NTL spam
 
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Originally Posted by vwman
I have had sooo much spam through two NTL e-mail I have started to use webmail to check them. Will this stop the spam ? does NTL have any filters when using webmail ?

No it won't stop the spam, and no there are no extra filters. Also be aware that when you delete messages they go into your Trash folder and stay there - they're never automatically deleted, and unless you do this yourself you're mailbox will fill up. :(

timmy toad 29-10-2004 22:36

Re: NTL spam
 
hiya people

I get 50 plus a day Spam emails through my NTLWORLD email account, i get all my NTLWORLD email Forwarded to my ANTI-SPAM account at BIGFOOT.COM but the trouble is then, i dont get any emails at all from my NTLWORLD email address, even the ones i send to myself via my Domain Name Email Account, the ones from my Web Hosting company dont get through either, this is most annoying. both of these domain names are on my BIGFOT White List.

hhhmmm, perhaps this ISNT a NTLWORLD problem at all

tim

zenmaster 30-10-2004 01:05

Re: Spam spam spam spam spam spam
 
I have an NTL email address which is NEVER used directly - I have other email addresses which forward to that address.

However I have started getting spam directly to that address.

This implies 1 of 2 things. Either -

1. The NTL user database has been hacked, or
2. Some F****R inside the company has sold a list

Whichever, the death penalty gets my vote.

Whoops, sorry ... guess it should have been in this thread

Well, what do you know? 30 seconds later it is :)

bopdude 30-10-2004 01:12

Re: Spam spam spam spam spam spam
 
Well I was well sick, i've now got N.I.S installed and the spam blocker thingy works well, recommend it :tu:

danielf 30-10-2004 01:18

Re: Spam spam spam spam spam spam
 
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Originally Posted by zenmaster
I have an NTL email address which is NEVER used directly - I have other email addresses which forward to that address.

However I have started getting spam directly to that address.

This implies 1 of 2 things. Either -

1. The NTL user database has been hacked, or
2. Some F****R inside the company has sold a list

3. The spammers just try random permutations of username@ntlworld.com...

JamieLee2k 02-11-2004 12:36

Re: NTL spam
 
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Originally Posted by Nemesis
And I would agree with every word .... I get more spam through NTL than any other email account I have.

So why can't NTL put in a spam filter?

It can't be that hard surely

greencreeper 02-11-2004 20:30

Re: NTL spam
 
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Originally Posted by JamieLee2k
So why can't NTL put in a spam filter?

It can't be that hard surely

There are a few long threads about this issue, but basically, some of us would prefer it if NTL left our emails well alone. They already make a mess of delivering them, Lord only knows what they'd do with spam filtering :disturbd:

quadplay 02-11-2004 23:19

Re: NTL spam
 
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Originally Posted by JamieLee2k
So why can't NTL put in a spam filter?

It can't be that hard surely

They have. Last night, between 11pm and 6am, anti-virus and anti-spam measures were added to the ntlworld email platform. The anti-virus solution should be active immediately, but the anti-spam solution is currently in testing, and is due to go live in a phased rollout over the next few weeks.

greencreeper 02-11-2004 23:22

Re: NTL spam
 
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Originally Posted by jimbo
They have. Last night, between 11pm and 6am, anti-virus and anti-spam measures were added to the ntlworld email platform. The anti-virus solution should be active immediately, but the anti-spam solution is currently in testing, and is due to go live in a phased rollout over the next few weeks.

Can this be confirmed :erm: :cry:


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