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****e

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Doh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Well done Mr James and the idiot that gave that ball away :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

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We F*****g well lost it. We just don't learn.

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Ffs

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Once again England demonstrate they simply cannot compete against world-class opposition.

Don't ya just love Calamity James :D

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My god i knew we where crap but this takes the ****

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Ahem, where are the Welsh?

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I blame the ITV Commentators, they jinxed us by saying this the first time we'd win the opening game :( :( :(

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Mr Scouse Bloody Gerrard :fit:

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The difference is we KNOW we're not world class :D

Other home nations seem reluctant to accept the truth.....

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Its that git from liverpool who cocked up along with heskey the other git from liverpool and if owen played better it would have been all right I HATE LIVERPOOL

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im just totally bemused by it all, then again i was also bemused at james's selection over robinson.........oh well, lets look ahead to the next game...

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At least we got in...

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Chim says you need to watch that cough ;)
Is it me or is Mr R Davids' timing a little suspicious on his post LOL Were you waiting to see the result Russ? :p:

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Not his fault that idiot passed it back like that - and if that to**er had scored our penalty it would all have been over long ago.

Yet another suicide game, just like against Rumania.

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WTF is that all about.....1-0 at the way and some french n0ob gets two in the dying seconds...there's no justice in that :(

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Yep and on today's performance, you'll be getting right back out a hell of a lot quicker :p:

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Not all of the welsh are bad..

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Don't hold back now, you say what you mean ;)
Anyone want to guess how many headlines relating to David James being crap appear tomorrow?

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*runs off to find the lyrics to Oasis' "Stop Crying Your Heart Out".....

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That Git (Gerrard) has run his socks off for 90 mins - more than any other player on the field and has been in almost every position including defense. But yes, he screwed up...Why take off Owen and Rooney?! are we mad!? :confused:

How James escaped a sending off I don't know - He's saved some good shots in the 2nd half but I'd still bring Robo on for the next game...

O well propping up the group again! :Yikes:

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:erm: :rolleyes: :p: :D

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The commentator goes "the french players will be hearing about this result for the rest of the next season"... bam.. goal.... tw&ts!!!

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*hits Russ..

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It's a shame Big Ron wasn't in Portugal....it would be interesting to catch his off-camera opinion of Calamity.....

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Absoulutly speechless.

First half England dictated most of the play, Second half they played exactly how Sven wanted them too. They let france come at them, but didn't give them any gaps.

Very Very Very Lucky. Guess the welsh, scots and irish love it. Mind you, that's all they can do.. leer at other peoples failures since they never make any recognisable achievements themselves.

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:rofl: that just made me laugh harder than i previously was at what just happened :rofl: :rofl:

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http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...126779,00.html

Yep, "all the way" back to Heathrow :rofl:

Mind you....if England DO end up winning, I'll never live this down :erm:

Very x3 unlucky? France were all over you.

And no recognisable achievements? For a natioanl team who has to get by on a pitance of funding, I'd say beating Italy, Germany and Argentina plus narrowly missing out on Euro 2004 was pretty good going!

And I suppose England's "recognisable achievements" was just the one occasion almost 30 years ago?

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i dont f@cking believe it :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

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So does this mean England is out and we can go back to normal life?

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Oooo thats fighting talk *snigger* What makes me think there will be a reply from Russ before I get to post this ;)

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and i reckon you wont , i mean come on , england did play well , apart from the last 5 mins , wtf was james thinking of , calamity james says it all :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

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No we got two more games that we can give away goals at death doors before it all over here :(.... I am beside myself with anger and disbelief..... jeez......

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Ya wha? :confused:

Did you watch the game?

France had majority of the ball second half but hardly had ANYTHING in front of goal. They had possession, but couldn't even make anything of it, even with the worlds 2 best players.

Yes, they were lucky. They got a NEEDLESS freekick, and gerrard makes his only mistake at the most crucial moment.

Seem to remember the welsh had a substantial amount of funding pumped into their national team before the Euro 2004 Qualifiers.

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Nah, England didn't win the first game in the group stage at the last European championship iirc... They only need a draw and a win to go through, and judging from Crotia and the Swiss's performance it's attainable.

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Fight, fight, fight ;) ModWars.... coming to a screen near you soon ;)

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Yeah I watched it - England's best moments were around Lampard's goal. The rest was France. They didn't get much on-target but then again, neither did England really. As I've said, England simply cannot compete with world-class teams.

You remember incorrectly :)

Nah....mod versus admin - a bit like England versus France......

*legs it

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it all went downhill when mr. ikea took off rooney and put on that great lummox of a donkey heskey... should never have taken rooney off ;)

ah well, everyone's a critic when it goes wrong aren't they? :)

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Hang on..... I chipped in a fiver and I didn't get any change :mad:

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Awww come on.....when England play Wales in the autumn we don't have a chance and you guys will be all over me so be good sports and let me have my moment :D

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Damn, and there I was getting my hopes up :D

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**** you!

France were damn ****ing LUCKY!!!

I dont see the sheep shaggers ANYWHERE!

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aww come on, he is only jealous cos his country doesn't have a football team ;)

:Yikes:

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yep true, and russ dont forget getting to a tourniment and participating in it is alot better than failing at the qualifying stages.

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What? You want to be made to look stupid for 90 mins before you are given the win?
;) :p: :D
Now about that Rugby.......:notopic:
*runs*

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OOooooooh Russ how's the knife-vest working out? Looks like you hit a nerve today LOL ;)

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Hang on a minute people, England play like a bunch of ******s and we attack the Welsh!! :shocked:
What about looking at our team and discussing who to kick in the balls for letting us down.

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ooOOOOOooooo!!!

I'll tell you where we were - where we always are, sitting at home watching England begining their usual run of never getting past the semi finals :D

It's true Wales aren't as good, I'm not stupid enough to think otherwise - but the difference is we never kid ourselves that we can mix it with world-class teams or even worse, win a major tournament.

Sir I salute you. You are the first England supporter I've respected in this thread. However you forget it's a national sport for the English to take their losses out on other teams rather than analysing where the problems truly lay.

You of course buck the trend. Have 5 rep points :)

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Too many balls, too little time ;) You can blame the entire team for the game as a whole, we had enough chances to end it :mad: Anyway... the Welsh are easy targets when it comes to football... it's not as though they can play it;) *kidding Chimmy :kiss: *
Not that she is sat next to me as I type

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Someone explain something for me. We're defending a 1-0 lead, and when we have the ball (e.g. goal kick), we hoof it up field to the French so they can bring it back and have another go. Why do we ALWAYS do this? Surely we need to keep the ball?


The great defending teams like the old Italian teams used to pass it around to hold onto a slim lead. I don't think our morons will ever learn! :rolleyes:

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That would rely on them learning to pass the ball to their own side ;) Not gonna happen LOL
Nice sig by the way :D

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Ah! I knew there was a reason :D As for the sig, England need as much luck as possible.....well they do now!!!

*EDIT* - mind you, the football team has done as expected, and the rugby union team have turned to ****........
.......but at least the cricket team is doing the business! ENG 3 - NZ 0 Well done!

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So who will the press blame this time? Beckham for missing the penalty, Gerrard for 'that' pass or Calamity for being a donkey? Certainly spoilt for choice this time....

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Cant blame David James for the goals.....had no chance with the Zidane free-kick and he should NEVER have been asked to deal with the backpass that Gerrard made... As for the Becham penalty...dont think he could have hit it any better...just shows what a world class keeper Barthezz can be ....Still England fans must be gutted....Thought i was watching the Scotland games of old where we actually had a half decent team and we'd screw it up in the final minutes...mind you thats going back a bit :D :D

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Heskey, cos if he did his damn job properly , then gerrard wouldn't have felt the need to return the ball to James and he wouldn't have needed to go and kiss henry's feet......

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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Well I have got big feet, so get them round here and I can sort them out 3 at a time ;)

I don't even follow the game that much, but I know when the players are too happy playing a game of tig rather than stand up for the sporting Honor of the country.

The dancing overpaid fairies need to try playing together to thrash the arse of everyone else.
Why is it that whenever they pass forward they just play it straight to the enemy instead of our men (one or two exceptions), don't they understand that to score you need to keep possession of the spherical object to propel it into the opposing net.

The thing that is going to annoy me more than anything else is all the bull**** that is going to fill the first 15 pages of the papers in the morning.

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We sure do. :)

I was actually wanting them to win for about 5 seconds and then the commentary started. After that and numerous mentions of World Cups and Johnny Wilkinson it was France to win all the way.

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I just think they're all to blame. The idea of everyone retreating to the 18 yard box, and not making a single challenge until just outside. Then booting the ball up field to the French so they can return it again. Total crap! Only British teams do this, so it's a disease of our game.

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Ahh another English trait - when you lose it's "Britain" but when you win it's "England".......

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You have a point there :tu:

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Well, it is. England do it. Scotland do it. Wales do it. Both Irish teams do it. So it must be a product of our game. No-one on the continent plays this way.

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gets ready to wander down to bookies tomorrow with my winning slip
mind you at the end there i really thought i was going to be tearing it up.

(I'm 1/2 Welsh, 1/2 Scot and bet against the English as a matter of principle)

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Remembers he has a ban button too :p: :D

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It was his fault, everyone down to meet him at the bookies. :p:

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Well you'd have to bet against England because you could never bet for Scotland or Wales as they don't get to many finals, do they?:D :D :D

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Yes yes but in 1966 and in the rugby last year, was it a great win for Britian?? :D

*remembers that mods cannot ban admins....however the reverse is possible.... ;)

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realise England make a habit of being successful in finals :D

However IIRC, Scotland seem to qualify quite regularly.....

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They didnt let us down..... Well James might of at the very end when he went for waht seemed the most stupidest tackle in the world

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You don't mind going back a bit do you? 1966.........

and who's talking about Rugby? I'm on abaout a particular way "home" teams play football, and don't forget a lot of players in these teams play or at least started out playing in the English (& Welsh!!!) or Scottish leagues.

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Better than Scotland or Wales.......

And IIRC Scotland never have got past the first round :D :D

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I'm not disagreeing with you - perhaps I'm not clarifying what I mean.

When England lose or go through a bad run, it then becomes a 'British' thing. But of course when they win, it's then just "England".

Double standards.

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There are 3 things you can count on: 1. Death, 2. Taxes, and 3. The Welsh and Scottish taking the pi** when we lose.

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I've never said otherwise!

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I think you're reading things into peoples comments. When England are crap, yes England are to blame, but if it's something that afflicts all "home" teams it can surely be called a British problem. If England win (as in the Rugby) but play totally different to any other of the home teams, England can claim credit. Having said that, I do think the Welsh rugby team is getting better year by year!

:Yikes: Did I say that? Oh no! :shocked:

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Wasn't it terrible when Barthez got smacked in the face by Beckham taking that penalty/

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That's true :D I remember when we stuffed Holland in the Euro finals.......and nearly everyone I was with wanted us to score that extra goal to get Scotland through. I don't think the Scots would have felt the same about England.

Mind you is it just that we slightly prefer the Scots to the Dutch? :D

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Mrs swoop nearly wet herself when that happened. :p: :rofl:

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Now we know your taking the ****

P.s. Russ, i will NOT edit my posts to suit you,

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:D :D :D

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Not hard enough!:)

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ok peeps, this thread is getting a bit heated :(

Can all Welsh, Scottish and Irish people please refrain from posting as you clearly don't have a clue what football is all about!!! :rofl: :D

Tho, serisouly guys...play nice :)

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You heard the man Russ.... now back off!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:

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I heard Wales once got the the finals of the Subuteo championship!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Edit::: looks around waiting for Russ to add more fuel to the fire

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It seems as though some people have taken offence to my comments about the England team and tonight's performance. No malice was intended as I regarded it as usual good-natured footballing banter but if anyone felt it was too much, this was not my intention and I apologise.

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No offence taken m8..........

I just think we're all a bit ****ed off at losing after the 90th minute. If it had been 10 - 0, it perhaps wouldn't have been so irritating.

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Dont worry Russ, I guess they are just sore losers :D

Most are quick to rib the Welsh when we lose.

On tonights game Engalnd have no one but themselves to blame.

You would think however with a few Man U players in there they would know how to play for longer than 90 mins ;)

Class free kick from the greatest footballer of this decade Mr Zedane, they could have been 4 David James in there and they wouldnt have stopped that one.

And it amazes me how James stopped on the field from trying to rescue a pathetic back pass from Gerrard and then deliberately lunged feet first at another class player Thierry Henry.

Nice to see Henry honouring the tradition that he never takes the penalty which is given from himself being fouled.

Again Zidane showed them how a penalty should to be taken just like Barthez showed them at the other end how a penalty should be saved ;)

I expect the news will break soon of how well behaved the England fans were after the game not.

:D

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Well, at least we qualifyed on the pitch, and didn't try to qualify via the high court! ;)

Okay David James wouldn't be my first choice keeper, but you can hardly hold up Barthez as the model keeper. He's either brilliant or daft, and can be both in the same game.

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Myself am actualy glad we (Wales) never qualified via the courts.

I would very much preferred to have seen Wales there on merit not on a technicality.

Still in Russias case cheats never prosper so we will have to wait and see on that score.

As for James he didnt exactly have a lot to do but failed when it mattered, discounting the Zidane free kick but was there any need for him to go in feet first against Henry I think not.

If he stood up then it might have been a different story.

Bathez well as youd said he was daft tonight nearly picking the ball up from back pass but on the flip side you have to admit that was some save from Beckhams penalty.

Ok it was the right height and he went the right way but still a good save.

:D

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Agreed. I thought he could have done better. He might not have stopped it, but his challenge was pathetic. But as I said, I don't think he's our best keeper. However, Erikson does, and he's the boss!

IIRC he's always been a good penalty saver. Some keepers are. David Seaman was very good, but Peter Shilton was terrible. Both were good keepers though, so it's a handy trick, but not an absolute requirement.

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Eh, come on England, don't let the f'ing french win...

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someone appears to be on a timewarp... (and not reading the thread)

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Too late....they have :cry: :fit:

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True, although James did dive well, just not in the right direction. If Zidane shot at the right side of goal, James would of saved it.

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Frankly, judging by this afternoon's game (SWI-CRO), I think 3 points may be enough to qualify for the quarter finals. Four points definitely will be.

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Yes, hopefully we'll get through anyway. And at this stage you just don't know whether coming second will mean an easier or harder route. It just depends on how well the other "big" teams start.

So all is not lost. It just ****es me off losing in the 90+ minute of a game. And against the French. Arrgghhh!:mad:

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It 9am and I am still seething........at work.... should be fun :p:

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3 points will not be enough as it means one of the other two teams will win so france will have at least 3 points and the other team will have 4 so 3 would mean we have the same as france and they will go though as they beat us

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Sorry. My mistake. Four points is likely to be enough.