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downquark1 06-07-2004 10:51

Re: Why you should dump IE.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SOSAGES
while i am not a ms lover i do use IE and dont have a problem with it but:

The Secunia web site at http://secunia.com/advisories/11978/ lists the following as vulnerable....

Software: Internet Explorer 5.x for Mac
Konqueror 3.x
Mozilla 0.x
Mozilla 1.0
Mozilla 1.1
Mozilla 1.2
Mozilla 1.3
Mozilla 1.4
Mozilla 1.5
Mozilla 1.6
Mozilla Firefox 0.x
Netscape 6.x
Netscape 7.x
Opera 5.x
Opera 6.x
Opera 7.x
Safari 1.x

What other browsers are there?

Damien 06-07-2004 10:53

Re: Why you should dump IE.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SOSAGES
while i am not a ms lover i do use IE and dont have a problem with it but:

The Secunia web site at http://secunia.com/advisories/11978/ lists the following as vulnerable....

Software: Internet Explorer 5.x for Mac
Konqueror 3.x
Mozilla 0.x
Mozilla 1.0
Mozilla 1.1
Mozilla 1.2
Mozilla 1.3
Mozilla 1.4
Mozilla 1.5
Mozilla 1.6
Mozilla Firefox 0.x
Netscape 6.x
Netscape 7.x
Opera 5.x
Opera 6.x
Opera 7.x
Safari 1.x

Thats all of them, all browsers have flaws but IE is the worst also as its the market leader people will target that

Chris 06-07-2004 10:55

Re: Why you should dump IE.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SOSAGES
while i am not a ms lover i do use IE and dont have a problem with it but:

The Secunia web site at http://secunia.com/advisories/11978/ lists the following as vulnerable....

Software: Internet Explorer 5.x for Mac
Konqueror 3.x
Mozilla 0.x
Mozilla 1.0
Mozilla 1.1
Mozilla 1.2
Mozilla 1.3
Mozilla 1.4
Mozilla 1.5
Mozilla 1.6
Mozilla Firefox 0.x
Netscape 6.x
Netscape 7.x
Opera 5.x
Opera 6.x
Opera 7.x
Safari 1.x

:Yikes:

I just ran the vulnerability checker on that website, illustrating how a malicious site can 'inject' content into the frameset of another page already open on your machine.

How the blazes does it do that?!?!

Damien 06-07-2004 10:55

Re: Why you should dump IE.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by downquark1
What other browsers are there?

DOnt worry Safari 1.3 is out soon for mac users! Also people who have the developers release have reported that it is 300% faster in some case at loading pages. Hopefully gamespot.com will improve!

Chris 06-07-2004 11:01

Re: Why you should dump IE.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien
DOnt worry Safari 1.3 is out soon for mac users! Also people who have the developers release have reported that it is 300% faster in some case at loading pages. Hopefully gamespot.com will improve!


Doubtless for osx 10.3 only. Money-grubbing swines. :mad:

Damien 06-07-2004 11:02

Re: Why you should dump IE.
 
why dont you get 10.3 its really good :)

Chris 06-07-2004 11:06

Re: Why you should dump IE.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien
why dont you get 10.3 its really good :)

Young son + house move this year = computer low priority in our house :(

I will buy it eventually, but even if I had the money, I object to being coerced into paying £100 for a new OS less than 12 months after paying £100 for the last one.

I ought to be able to justify it to mrs towny though, I'm reliably informed that it actually improves the performance of old G3-450s like my indigo iMac.

Anyway, that's a little :notopic: :)

Damien 06-07-2004 11:08

Re: Why you should dump IE.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by towny
:Yikes:

I just ran the vulnerability checker on that website, illustrating how a malicious site can 'inject' content into the frameset of another page already open on your machine.

How the blazes does it do that?!?!

scary

greencreeper 06-07-2004 11:11

Re: Why you should dump IE.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by towny
How the blazes does it do that?!?!

Have a look at the code behind the link in Step 2...

Chris 06-07-2004 11:14

Re: Why you should dump IE.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greencreeper
Have a look at the code behind the link in Step 2...

well it might as well be greek, I don't know HTML. :) Give me a clue, what's it say?

greencreeper 06-07-2004 11:21

Re: Why you should dump IE.
 
Ah - sorry. Specifies the name of the frame to open the link in. The scary bit is that IE just does it - across sites.

Stuart 06-07-2004 11:28

Re: Why you should dump IE.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by towny
Young son + house move this year = computer low priority in our house :(

I will buy it eventually, but even if I had the money, I object to being coerced into paying £100 for a new OS less than 12 months after paying £100 for the last one.

I ought to be able to justify it to mrs towny though, I'm reliably informed that it actually improves the performance of old G3-450s like my indigo iMac.

Anyway, that's a little :notopic: :)

That plus the fact that Tiger is out soon(ish).

Chris 06-07-2004 11:30

Re: Why you should dump IE.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scastle
That plus the fact that Tiger is out soon(ish).

Yes, which poses a potential problem ... will 10.4 offer further performance improvements for older machines or have we reached a point where the newest version of the OS is going to be just too much for them? Should I buy 10.3 while I can, or wait and risk finding out that 10.4 requires a G4, thereby leaving me stuck with 10.2.8 forever with no way of getting a 10.3 CD?

Still OT, sorry :erm:

Damien 06-07-2004 11:37

Re: Why you should dump IE.
 
10.4 will require a hefty system. I G4 1GHZ is advisable otherwise it doesn't work to its very best. Although this is not 100% certain yet

I would get 10.3 as i have heard it gives a nice speed boost to older system and then leave it a while, you can always get tiger a few months after its out

Stuart 06-07-2004 12:31

Re: Why you should dump IE.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien
I would get 10.3 as i have heard it gives a nice speed boost to older system and then leave it a while, you can always get tiger a few months after its out


So would I. I am running 10.3 on a 500MHz iBook, and it runs quite well (much better than 10.2.8).

SOSAGES 06-07-2004 13:16

Re: Why you should dump IE.
 
when you lot going to get a proper pc then ;)

Stuart 06-07-2004 13:26

Re: Why you should dump IE.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SOSAGES
when you lot going to get a proper pc then ;)

I have. 2Ghz Athlon with 768Meg ram running XP Pro. I borrow the iBook from work.

SOSAGES 06-07-2004 13:28

Re: Why you should dump IE.
 
there is hope then

Stuart 06-07-2004 13:33

Re: Why you should dump IE.
 
Don't knock the Mac. It has faults (like the PC) but there is a lot the Mac does that is better than the PC. I like both. If a Mac does what I want better than a PC, I'll use a Mac. If the PC does what I want better than a Mac, I'll use a PC.

roger_smith 06-07-2004 16:30

Re: Why you should dump IE.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SOSAGES
when you lot going to get a proper pc then ;)

Always someone isnt there :D

tried that link posted earlier in thread, sheesh thats scary stuff, how long untill thats going to be corrected.

Damien 11-07-2004 15:08

Re: Why you should dump IE.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by towny
Yes, which poses a potential problem ... will 10.4 offer further performance improvements for older machines or have we reached a point where the newest version of the OS is going to be just too much for them? Should I buy 10.3 while I can, or wait and risk finding out that 10.4 requires a G4, thereby leaving me stuck with 10.2.8 forever with no way of getting a 10.3 CD?

Still OT, sorry :erm:

http://www.geekpatrol.ca/archives/20...pantherand.php


I will try my best to make sense of this



10.4 is faster in all areas of testing expect User interface (which is actually what makes a difference as a slow UI makes the whole thing look slow) now these would APPEAR to mean that you should wait for 10.4. But I have heard that tiger needs faster computers (the test computer was a g5) so I would recommend getting 10.3 now! to be safe (and to experance a speed boost and a newer better OS) and then if you REALLY need 10.4 you can still get it.

Summary
  1. 10.3 is (apparently) faster than 10.2 on slow macs and gives them a speed boost although i cannot confirm this
  2. 10.4 is faster than tiger but only only fast macs so far
  3. 10.4 out in 2005

Chris 11-07-2004 17:49

Re: Why you should dump IE.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien
http://www.geekpatrol.ca/archives/20...pantherand.php


I will try my best to make sense of this



10.4 is faster in all areas of testing expect User interface (which is actually what makes a difference as a slow UI makes the whole thing look slow) now these would APPEAR to mean that you should wait for 10.4. But I have heard that tiger needs faster computers (the test computer was a g5) so I would recommend getting 10.3 now! to be safe (and to experance a speed boost and a newer better OS) and then if you REALLY need 10.4 you can still get it.

Summary
  1. 10.3 is (apparently) faster than 10.2 on slow macs and gives them a speed boost although i cannot confirm this
  2. 10.4 is faster than tiger but only only fast macs so far
  3. 10.4 out in 2005

thanks for all your work! Other friends who have gone from 10.2 to 10.3 have said that there is an improvement for slower machines, so I think we can take that as fact. I'm interested in what you're saying about 10.4 - that it's just the UI that'll slow it down - because of course there's always the option of switching animated effects off. That would still be a pity because I quite like the genie animation for minimizing/maximizing windows! I think I will get 10.3 before the end of the year and then wait for other people to give their feedback on 10.4 before I decide whether to risk it. :)

Damien 11-07-2004 18:22

Re: Why you should dump IE.
 
Well the UI is important to me as if thats slow it gives the whole impression that the computer is slow. I know you can scale back but i hate doing that you need to see if it is worth getting 10.4 and scaling back. Here is the stuff in tiger: http://www.apple.com/uk/macosx/tiger/

If i was you i would get 10.3 then let that be that until your next mac

Mal 01-08-2004 00:28

Re: Why you should dump IE.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greencreeper
I'm more interested in Google's autofill function for web forms - saves a lot of typing. Firefox didn't seem to have this capability.

There's a new extension for autofill now. I don't know if it's any good though.

Richard M 01-08-2004 00:50

Re: Why you should dump IE.
 
I find the BBCode extension handy.
Firefox: http://update.mozilla.org/extensions...=Miscellaneous
Mozilla: http://update.mozilla.org/extensions...=Miscellaneous

greencreeper 01-08-2004 00:50

Re: Why you should dump IE.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mal
There's a new extension for autofill now. I don't know if it's any good though.

Thanks. Added it to my extensive Favorites. If I try Firefox again in the future I'll download it.

Interesting that there's an RFC for the naming of form fields in e-commerce - http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3106.txt I didn't know that. Made a note to read up. I dunno - pace of change is scary.


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