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For the love of.......

Windows and Mac OSX and Linux are all diffrant windows does do everything the others do and more as its the market leader.

Other than that it really does not matter so dont get so worked up. I use mac osx and windows i like both of them.

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OSX is probably a little faster for graphics editing I think, but that is mainly due to hardware. Linux is a LOT more customizable than Windows, if you care for that. Windows, for example, can't readily forward ports. With Linux, you can just use xinetd.

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I've never noticed any slow-down with Photoshop 8. Linux, customisable? No doubt about that, but who on earth wants to configure an operating system from the command line? Not sure what you mean about forwarding ports, I do that with my router, which admittedly probably has a linux kernal but few people use a windows machine as a router, unless they use ISA .. and that's a piece of p*ss to configure.

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I thought this thread was about RealPlayer 10 so excuse me for butting in and asking a question about it.

I have been having a problem for a while with Windows Media Player not being able to stream radio. I have tried everything under the sun that I can think of, uninstalling it and trying every version available but no luck. It always gets to the point where it is "connecting to media" and then just sits there.

Seeing that RealPlayer 10 is supposed to be able to play Windows Media files I installed this and it works perfectly for radio streams in Realplayer format but does the same as WMP for Windows Media streams, just sits there with "connecting to media" until it times out. I have uninstalled Zone alarm but this does not help.

The computer is running Windows98SE as is my daughters system, both running behind the same router, the difference being my daughters system does stream Windows Media radio OK. Anyone got any suggestions that do not involve wiping the drive and starting afresh.

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There you go. Then, if the EU prohibits Microsoft from shipping Media Player with Windows, they are prohibiting Microsft from improving their product. So my original statement stands. You're advocating competition, yet you're preventing a company from improving its product. Yet you're not doing it to other companies, such as Apple with QuickTime.

So, unless the government helps out, Apple and Linux will disappear off the market? Are they so bad that they need special rules and regulations to make it?

I for one don't think so.

So, if the majority votes that everyone worth more than $100,000 should give all their wealth to the government for redistribution then it is justified because it is what the majority decides?

You cannot vote someone's rights away. Your excuse to the blatant infringement on Microsoft's rights is basically "because the majority says so."

That is not an acceptable reason. That is a weak excuse for an anti-competitive action taken by people that have no rights, but still deam they should have, over another individual or company.

Microsoft doesn't have the power to destroy anything. Everyone can just pick Linux or Apple, or write their own operating system. Nothing is preventing it!

You're hypocritical in the fact that you want to restrict Microsoft from improving its products, but Apple should have free reign. That is just not cool.

I still want to buy RedHat with NTFS. My choice of file systems is restricted and infringed on because I'm FORCED by a company to use a file system I don't want.

Let us get real. That is stupid. YET, that is exactly what you're doing to Microsoft.

There is no monopoly position in the operating system market.
Second, if Microsoft manages to maintain 90% of the market by charging $250 for an operating system when people can get a free one (Linux), their product must be substantially better. Remember how people moaned and complained about IE being free and Netscape not? Well, if Netscape was so much better, people would have kept paying for it. But they didn't, because Microsoft gave it away for free, and it was better. That forced Netscape to do the same. Free enterprise 101.

That said, it is not a bogus comparison. I want to buy Redhat Linux with NTFS, and they are forcing me to use ext3. They should be barred from such anti-competitive practices!


And as a senior clergy man, the Pope is the alpha and the omega of Christianity.

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Exactly... People are not interested in that crap. The same thing that makes Linux great for nerds and geeks is what makes it crap for the consumer, who just so happens to be 99% of the market.

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Also, not sure why people are moaning about having WMP installed with Windows, I and probably millions of others would much rather have it installed than have to download something to watch video files, play music etc, what if they have no internet connection? Are you going to troop up to PC world and hunt down a copy of *gag* Quicktime?

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Thank you towny, this is basically what I have been trying to put across. My right to, as Jerrek puts it, 'tell' MS or any other company how I believe they should behave comes from my being an individual in a world of individuals that interact through their beliefs and opinions. Anybody elses opinions are equally as valid and is through consensus (such as the democratic process) that the actual way forward is found. It may as well be asked what right does an atom have to influence the paths of the atoms around it.

Plus there is the choice of ntfs in the kernel :)

Well it's a good job that I didn't then isn't it? If you'll look more closely at what I said, I support the maximum amount of liberty that supports everyone. Running a business influences the lives of others, so in those cases community opinion matters.

You make it sound like a bad thing, and I know that from your perspective it is. I already acknowledge that I am a socialist, I do not advocate capitalism, from my perspective it is the bad thing. Can you not see that their are no absolutes here, that it is only opinion that matters. I am not trying to sway you to my perspective, I am not trying to rubbish yours, I am merely putting across my personal belief in an open discussion. So if you cannot stomach my opinions, don't read them. I am always open to persuasion, if you feel it is worth doing so ('saving my soul') then do so, but shouting, quoting from sources whose philosophies are quite alien to my own (Ms Rand) and rubbishing my opinions are not the way to go about it.

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It is supposedly anti-competitive because it forces competition to improve their products.

Do you think that Real would have a ****ty base as it is if their software wasn't the utter crap it is? Microsoft is pushing hard for them to improve it, and they don't like it.

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I've tried Real Player and I've tried Quicktime .. I found them both to be awful, the only 2 media players I've ever liked using have been WMP closely followed by Winamp.

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so? You make capitalism sound like a bad thing. If socialism was a good thing, don't you think I'll be all over it.

The fact of the matter is, socialism is poison to anyone that wants to set up shop. This weekend I'll be busy drawing up my second Articles of Incorporation. A one man company. Does that mean I'm evil, because you said companies are an evil necessity?

You have the right to your opinion, sir, just like I have a right to mine. Just one thing: hands off my companies. They are not yours. No matter how much you think my creation, work, labor, money, and time is yours, it isn't.

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And it is funny that with all Microsoft's "anti-competitive" practices, Winamp is still the best mp3 player (for me), and for millions of other people. :D

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Well I must be one of the majority again. I find Mediaplayer and Quicktime to be two of the best product's on the market and I'm glad too mediaplayer is included. If is wasn't website's would be using allot more different player's than they do now. I for one dont wont to have to download a different player everytime I wont to check out a clip or something.

The other player I use allot mainly for movies is PowerDvd

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Windows is an operating system not a media player. To improve an operating system would be tweaking code and interface changing.

I wondered how long till communism would come into this :rolleyes:

Free enterprise is only in the interests of the public when there is competition, for competition there needs to be a chance of victory, after victory there is no competition. The system breaks down.

But then you have the anti-trust laws and regulation, so this removes any hope of victory, complacency and price fixing begin and the system breaks down again.

Nothing is perfect, American capitalism is no exception.

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Again, no distinction between absolutes and your opinion. If you thought socialism was a good thing you'd be all over it.

From my perspective, I see a clear distinction between company and person, I'm sure you can see that I wouldn't/don't consider you evil.

I wouldn't attempt to force my opinion on you and you're lucky that the consensus of opinion swings in your favour, and because that is what I believe I don't take issue you setting up your company, but likewise if consensus opinion swung in my favour then you woud have to live with it...or try to swing opinion back. In any case I as an individual, wouldn't take anything from you because in my utopia, you would give everything freely.

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Gosh, back on topic :)

I can't remember which version of WMP it was, it was the one that came with win98, but that was the best version because it had just a very simple interface and didn't do annoying things like create a My Music folder in your home directory everytime it loaded.
Quicktime was good, but the registration reminder and upgrade notice became very wearing. Realplayer was always just awful.

Winamp v2.x was of course, damn near as perfect :) I use xmms now, which is a clone for X.

The best media player that I have used has to be Xine, plays just about every file format included qt, rm and wmv.

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Who said that Windows is only an operating system? Are you, again, saying that Microsoft shouldn't be allowed to improve their products? Why don't you just pass a law outlawing improvements to products?

200 years of history in the U.S. says different. However, a mere 80 years of socialism collapsed several countries. You have no proof of what you're saying.

What is "American" capitalism?

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But you consider my work evil, right?

So you think it is right that if the majority of people advocate that murdering senior citizens should be legal, it should be legal?

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Hmm, so much for competition breaking down. I thought you implied there was no alternatives to Windows Media Player...

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Why has your government introduced anti-trust laws, the previous administration was almost ready to dismantle microsoft. That doesn't sound like free enterprise to me.

Unless you want to start calling democrats, communists now ;)

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Consider the word evil in this case to mean 'conflicting strongly with my beliefs', then I would consider the aims of your company, evil.

If the majority of opinion was that it was right then it would become legal. That doesn't mean that I would change my opinion and think that murdering senior citizens is right, and I would still be (very vocally) opposed to it.

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You must have misread somewhere, nowhere have I intended to imply that there are no alternatives, merely that MS use their dominant position to push their media player on people. And to play windows media files, I still have to have a copy of WMP for the codecs, and for some funny reason these days a lot of videos seem to be distributed in wmv format.

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I think the reason it was first included was because of help files etc. I remember windows 95 had allot of .avi files. I just can't believe Microsoft done that either. Fancy trying to help people out. Damn those pesky buggers lol

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They are...

The previous administration drifted us towards the left. Anti-trust laws is an invention of the left.

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So, hmm, you would never create your own company? If everone believed what you believed, how do you expect anyone to be able to afford food and clothes?



EXACTLY. Just because the majority says it is right doesn't mean it is.

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Money would be an alien concept, as would paying for it, everyone would get everything that they needed. I do know it's just a pipe dream, but it's nice to have dreams.

Shhh, we don't want to be seen to be agreeing :pp

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Jerrek, unless you are being so subtly sarcastic with that comment that we all missed it, I am becoming worried that you are an extremist. How anyone can consider the Democratic party of the USA 'communist' is utterly beyond me.

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What happens if you uninstall Media Player via add/remove windows components, install the codecs (available in lots of download locations) and use Winamp to view your WMV or WMA files?

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There's no body stopping people from doing this already. I think this is the whole point.

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I would also like to point out that WMA and WMV files are great for streaming, I much prefer them to RM files.

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No, the point is not that you can do it if you want, the point is that the vast majority of computer users don't know how to, and don't care - they just want what's the simplest option. The simplest option is just to stick with WMP because it's there, and the only reason it's there is because its manufacturer has an unfair advantage in that regard.

All that said, there is something to be said for M$'s own suggestion to the EU, which was rather than forcing them to remove WMP, they should have been forced to add Quicktime and Real Player.

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In all honesty, that would probably be the best option. On the first run it could then ask which player you wish to use as default.

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Well, under such a system, how'd you propose to reward those that work harder than others? I.e., someone putting 42 hours in a week opposed to 30 a week?

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Want to talk Alger Hiss?

The Democrats of the 50s were different. Although they had the touch of the left, they meant to do good. I can see myself vote for Lieberman, who I feel that while he has the touch of the left, he is a capitalist. Today's Democrats have moved so far left that they're alienating their voter base. The likes of Dean, Chomsky, and Jesse Jackson are running the party and it has become a nest for the ultra-left communists.

There is no difference between communism and socialism except that one proposes to enslave society by force, and the other by vote.


If you want to call me an extremist, then call Reagan, Lincoln, Washington, Jefferson, Madison, and the rest of the Founding Fathers also extremists. I'm sorry, but I'm just not about to sing Marx's praises no matter how much good his intent was.

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No no not Realplayer not a operating system over an operating system. What MS has done is really out of order anyway. I think everyone knows this. They spend time and money developing operating systems. Put things on there people will need to get them started. I mean just who the heck do they think they are putting this kinda stuff on there own system :Yikes:

On another matter I'd like to see Car manufacturer's done next. I don't like the stereo that came with mine. I don't think people should have a car stereo forced on them by the company that makes the car. Its wrong:erm:

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In philitopia, there would be no need for anyone to put in more work than anyone else.

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While the democrats today sit underground stroking a white cat, cackling. John Kerry looks the type to do that.
Well, at least its democratic :rolleyes:


It's official, I've been driven to sarcasm.

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(emphasis added)

So tell me, if they don't care, why the lawsuit in the first place?

As long as you force Apple to bundle the others too, and UNIX companies to bundle IE for UNIX, and so forth.


It is ridiculous. You want to use laws to further your vendetta against Microsoft, not to bring "choices" to the consumer. The consumer already have choices, and Microsoft is just making it incredibly easy for consumers. Something they have always done (and Linux has not), and now the Microsoft-wannabe's are all upset because they can't possibly create as good a product as Microsoft. :td:

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I would *GREATLY* object if RealPlayer is installed. It is CRAP. PURE CRAP. And I'm sure some had spyware too.

I would also greatly object if QuickTime comes with the system, because the free one is crap. I have the store one, and I want that one.

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But what if that person wants to?

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If someone wants to then maybe the company should charge *them* :erm:

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I said i wouldnt post in here again, sigh.....

"As long as you force Apple to bundle the others too"
While you dont get the other media players (not like there needed, QT does all i need) you do get IE with the OS.

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Then they would be free to, and they would earn respect and recognition.

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Mac programs made by Microsoft aren't as good as ones made by apple.

Maybe it's to do with the fact the company makes the operating system, or maybe microsoft just aren't that good. Maybe apple are keeping secrets from them.

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They wouldn't necessarily have to be installed per se, the installer would just have to be on the system and then installed at the users request.

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But not compensation?

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So?

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If you force Microsoft is bundle quicktime then osx would have to come with WMP.

Its not fair to stop microsoft doing bundles while other companys can

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I would object to that too. I don't want any files on my system that I don't need or want. HAving senseless installers somewhere on the system is stupid. I don't want it.

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No, there would be nothing more to give, they would have everything they could ever need already. The concept of greed is unknown in philitopia.

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And you plan on running the world with these principles you admit isn't realistic?

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I have no objection to that, WMP for mac is terrible. But's its small and non-instrusive. Once people compare that to quicktime they'll probably never use it unless they have to - I don't

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I think he mentioned that this was only a dream.

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I would also like to add that WMP = free, not crippled shareware like QT or Real One, if there's going to be an alternative to WMP included, it should be Winamp, at least they share interopable codecs (unlike the other two), and to echo Jerrek's sentiments, if I want installers for sh*t software on my machine, I'll visit a warez site and watch my machine gather a bunch of spyware.

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Damn, my secret quest for global rule is out :)

No, I plan on operating on my beliefs and principles as much as I can in the world the way that it is. If others like what they see and choose to follow similar beliefs then all well and good, if they don't nevermind. These principles are only unrealistic in todays world, they are not impossible to achieve over (a long) time. That is no reason for me abandoning them.

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Itunes = Free

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Bifta, QT doesnt install crap or spyware on a computer. Just cus it has a nag screen doesnt autmaticlly mean it installs a load of crap on your machine
Of course Real is another story

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Well, as no-one is forcing Apple to bundle Windows Media Player, I would say that Itunes will never be bundled with windows, seems fair to me, more than fair actually, I hate itunes.

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Of course QT installs crap .. it's called QT.

edit: and if you absolutely must view .mov files in windows, forget QT, get "Quicktime Alternative" http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail...fid=1049831315

oh and i forgot to say thanks for the rep bifta, really nice:

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wow, was that anattempt at humor? If QT is crap why do the big hollywood studios use it now? Peter jackson used QT based editing systems to do LOTR you know.

Oh and for your hate iTunes comment, you acctually used it? From your posts it seems you just hate apple for no real reason.

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Nice post Bifta, Gonna grab this now and I agree 100% with this review lol

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Please Please people lets keep it down. AT the end of the day people have diffrant views and we should respect these views and agur our case nicly this topic is going no-where.

Lets get it back on topic. What do people think of Realplayer 10 then? Is it avalible for mac as I use real on my powerbook to view BBC news reports. Is it avalible on mac?

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Can someone point out the differences between this one and realone. I can't see anything different, I'm still grateful if there are changes under the hood but I haven't noticed any difference.

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Yes, let's enlighten everyone to your posting and red repping habits (habits that got you banned from this forum, remember?)

remember that one?

Your red rep was for this post, or the similary pathetic one you made before it, I doubt anyone would consider my comment out of place.

And yes, I've used itunes, and yes, I still hate it.

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I use both the real and quicktime alternative - i've not tried installing the 'proper' ones in a while - although my laptop came with real one installed in it.

I don't know if I really need to install realplayer 10 - as winamp and windows media player pretty much cover what I want. The real and qt alternative play my ram and mov files.

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What the hell has a QT editing 'system' got to do with the free, PC hogging bag of sh*t that is the PC Quicktime client?

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I have QT on my pc and its certenly not pc hogging bag of ****e as you call it.

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Strange how they release an "alternative" for it then .. perhaps they just coded that thanks to a lack of anything better to do .. yes, that must be it :rolleyes:

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Well you cant please everyone.

No need for the sarcasm either

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I think you'll find some have already started using the Mediaplayer 9 codex ;)

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Well I use quicktime for quicktime files and realplayer for real files and some for WMA thats all I do I just want to use the file and dont really care for diffrant standards. Would like a all-in-one but dont care I just let the programs do its work in the backround. I dont really care about agueing which is best.

Anyway I went to the reaplayerl site and the same mac version exists

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maybe in your fantasy land

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Well you don't read enough then Mickey. You'll make it to page 3 of Janet and John keep up the good work ;)

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Perhaps you could share your source of this information, Final Cut Pro != Quicktime, QT is merely one very small component of it.

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QuickTime itself, for me, is mediocre. I bought the real version and I'm happy enough with it. No nag screens, and it has some extra features. Would I jump up and down about it? No.

Real on the other hand, is so full of crap, I just can't bear to install it. Unless Real 10 is drastically different from the previous garbage, I won't install it.

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Because those that can see the long term harm have a duty to protect those who can't see any further than short-term gain.

Quite. Which is possibly why the EU didn't go for that as an acceptable solution.

Vendetta? I have explained that I believe in using law, where appropriate, to secure long-term benefits for consumers. Despite laying this all out, in public, on more than one occasion, you still prefer to accuse me of having an ulterior motive that is utterly different to my stated position. You are accusing me of telling outright lies.

And finally, the proof that you are quite blind. It's Microsoft, so it must be the best? Sorry, I don't buy that.

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well i for one am happy real 1o has been released it's by far the most superior Realplayer to date way fater and slicker than realone ever was

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Do agree with previous points that RP sucks!

It also disregards my privacy settings too - I turn off automatic notification for 30 days and guess what when I open RP 8 next time on the next day, on day 29?

http://nthw.ath.cx:8080/nthw/rp.png

I get a bloody bar on the bottom of my RP and popups asking me to download the latest version on the player!

I get this nearly every time I open up my RP.

:mad: :fit:

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The only reason I like it is because it lets me copy music from my pc to my net-MD without all that "check in/out" crap that comes with the poxy Sony software!

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omfg....am I glad I started this thread :erm: :disturbd: :tired: :sulk: :D

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Europe gain it's dominance by controlling markets and limiting imports. The USA did the same. One you have a position of dominance (by limiting imports) you then cry for free markets, becasue you have dominance and you know if others protect their markets they may be able to catch up with that dominance.

Just look at Japan and the 'asian tigers' and compare them with brazil. Japan and the asian tigers built their economies from third world to first world by controlling markets. South america followed the doctrine of free markets (imposed by US and Europe) and they are f*cked.

If you believe in free markets then presumably you have written to your president to object to the tarrifs imposed on foreign steel imports?

If you read Adam Smiths writtings on the free market (the father of free market ideas), then he is totaly clear that free markets require free movement of labour. So are you going to open the border with Mexico and allow a free market in labour as well? I think not. Free markets is a 'do as we say not as we do' rant from those at the top of the heap, designed specifically to keep them at the top of the heap. It is the primary mechaism by which powers like the USA maintain their power. It has nothing to do with 'freedom'. It's about dominace.

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Hang on. In one breath you denounce Europe as 'drifting towards socialism and planned economies', then in the next breath you want us to contrast Communist East Germany with West Germany? Last time I looked at my atlas, West Germany was a European country. I have been suggesting all along that your point of view is fundamentally flawed because it only takes account of extremes (Capitalism Vs Communism). This demonstrates my point neatly. Western Europe is as red as a London bus by your reckoning, yet its economy is demonstrably more successful than was achieved by that most loyal of the former Communist European states, East Germany.

Who I am is a free citizen of a democratic country, with a right to help determine the function, priorities and freedoms of the society in which I live.

Consider these two contrasting statements:

There is no such thing as society - Margaret Thatcher

No man is an island, entire of itself. Every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine own were. Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee - John Donne

The evidence of my eyes is that the latter is true and the former is not. Therefore everybody in my society has a responsibility to every other. If people, whether personally or corporately, refuse to acknowledge this responsibility, I reserve my democratic right to use Law to make them change their ways.

As Erol has pointed out, 'liberty and freedom' is all to often the cry of protectionism. What did you make of GW Bush's protectionist action on steel tariffs? Hardly the actions of a true capitalist.

Either the figures back up your point, or they don't. You can't pass off 'a few single exceptions' just because they don't fit your argument. GDP per capita figures from the world bank for 2002 put Luxembourg, Switzerland, Norway and Lichenstein ahead of the US. I will grant you Lichenstein as an exception as it is minute. The others may well be very small by US standards, but we might well ask why the US, with its vast natural resources, and having escaped WWII with its infrastructure virtally intact, is not doing rather better?

Your sign-off proves what I have suspected - that you are allowing hand-on-heart patriotism to cloud your rational judgement. You analysis of political systems is deeply inadequate, your analysis of GDP and its significance is flawed and you have completely failed to account for wider factors that have helped to determine the economic status of Western Europe and North America in the last 50 years.

And what has all this got to do with Realplayer? :rofl:

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If I remember my GCSE business studies, we call it a "mixed" market economy. And yes, we are aware of it and we choose to.

Real Player 10 Gold
 

Right, after downloading and installing this i have encounterd 2 problems with it. It kept on freezing while i was trying to listen to some music. Im not impressed with it at all and i took it off my system straight away after i encountered those 2 problems.

I DO NOT recommend that you download it as it can crash.

WNA

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WMA you really should check before posting,
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ght=realplayer

so most already know its C#ap ;)

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oh man, not another realplayer 10 thread ;)

Despite what some people have said about realplayer I'd be surprised if it was so horribly buggy as it appeared to you. It works ok on my PC at work, but I only have the freebie version. Is Gold the one you pay for?

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You can download the Gold version for free. I kept on getting

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Weird ... wonder why they call it 'Gold' when it's just the free version. Is there a 'bronze' or 'silver' version?

And come to think of it, what happened to 'RealOne' - I notice it's just plain old 'Real Player' again. If the developers are as indecisive as the marketing department, maybe it is as bad as you say...

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i wonder if any passing mods fancy merging this thread , shows it is worth doing a search ;) , and realplayer is devil spawn , i wouldnt thank you for it :(

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If I was you I'd SEROUSLY consider WHAT you put on your pc at the moment :D

Anyway - I must admit I've never liked the 'real' stuff - but I do visit some sites that use the format so I generally use the alternative thingy.

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:D

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oh man, was merging this really such a good idea? The original thread was waaaaaay off topic by the time it died out...

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Now it's back on topic - and can stay that way. :)

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Can anyone who's tried realplayer 10 say whether it's less overbloated than previous versions. I'm willing to bet it's not.

While I have realone installed, I never use it. A handy little winamp plugin (just search google for tara winamp realaudio) lets you play all realaudio and video in winamp. You need realplayer/realone installed for it's codecs, but winamp plays the files cleanly without stealing system resources and making your system unstable.

Re: Real Player 10 Gold
 

:confused: Works fine for me....then again the latest nvidia driver made my system crash :rolleyes:

Re: [merged] Realplayer 10
 

can someone point me to a link to the 'realone' player not real player 10 but the 'realone' series player.........

Re: [merged] Realplayer 10
 

Re: [merged] Realplayer 10
 

thanks.......looked all over the site to find it :dunce: :handshake :)

Re: [merged] Realplayer 10
 

No Problem. They have hidden it well. I only found it via Google..