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Here is a pretty cool video demonstrating the PS4 Dual Shock and the PS4 eye and i am pretty impressed with what i can see, looks like fun.

Watch it all if you can.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=AvpCdtjTrAo#!

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So the PS4 games will be region free, so does that mean i could easily import a PS4 game from USA etc alot cheaper or are there any import banning restrictions for things like this?

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Yep. This has been the case for years with the PS3. Its only region locked on DVD's and Blu Ray movies

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Don't certain sites restrict import of PS3 games to the UK, if i remember correctly i thought play asia did this, although i guess there will be other sites that let it happen.

If i can buy games on the cheap like this, this maybe another reason for me to get a PS4 as i believe the Xbone is region locked on games? mmmmm more decisions!

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Play Asia did used to do this. Sadly XBone is region locked

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Play Asias prices are really really cheap, which is my kind of price.

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Has anyone changed their mind about getting the PS4 as this thread seems strangely quiet compared to the Xbox One thread? :)

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I still intend on buying both, but I'm as yet undecided over which one to get at launch and which one to get next year.

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Nope. Just not much to say about PS4, looks good, they had a good E3 and it's advantage Sony whereas Microsoft's console provokes debate

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Yes you have a point about promoting debate Damien, with the PS4 it all seems so simple. :)

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What did you guys think of the video in post 101? T think it looks pretty interesting but you need to watch it all.

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Got my pre-order in at Game, can't wait. As for that video, its all camera stuff so it doesn't really interest me. Still nifty though.

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I won der what other games they can do with the camera.

And i hope the blue glow on the back of the DS4 won't reflect in a TV screen?

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This , but I've decided on xbox one first . Purely for the fact of dedicated servers and more of the exclusive games on xbox appeal to me.

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Which dedicated servers are these?

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Microsoft provide the MP servers on Xbox (other than EA) whereas its up to the publisher to provide them on PlayStation.

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Does it give a bad multiplayer experience on the PS3 compared to the 360?

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That is not quite how Xbox Live works. With a few exceptions, intra-game multiplayer data is peer-to-peer.

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Xbox One is gunna have dedicated servers provided by MS.

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And what will they do?

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... host the games instead of it relying upon P2P hosting by the players themselves.

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But there's nothing official to confirm the role of these so-called dedicated servers, just a generous helping of speculation and conjecture extolling the virtues of the cloud. A dedicated server could be providing the ability to do something as simple as saving a game state. I would stake a generous amount of cash on the majority of the meaningful, latency sensitive data running over p2p channels.

Don't get me wrong, the xbox live user experience as it stands is vastly superior to PSN but this talk of 300,000 servers and all of the cloud buzz-words don't really wash in terms of what will pan-out in the real world.

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Nope Xbox One for me

Same here ill get both at some point in time

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Rumor launch date is 21st Nov. This was in a paper. He find this on a website

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I wonder how much stock there will be as the Amazon poll was ended early and it showed that 95% of voters backed the PS4? 38984 votes for PS4 to only 2162 for the Xbone.

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The paper the article was The Sun

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I wouldn't take those results as fact.

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Oh i don't but it does appear from browsing around the internet that gamers are embracing the PS4 more than the Xbone One currently.

It'll be a good while before we can all compare side by side though which i am itching to see as i won't buy on day one. :)

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Sony shoot themselves right through the foot.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/30...l#post35585893

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Hands-on with the PS4 here

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...-playstation-4

The performance of the launch titles doesn't look too impressive right now apart from AC Black Flag. As expected, drive club looks utter gash so roll-on Forza!

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Hands on video here of Knack, i think it looks interesting and i am pleased i didn't see any jaggies! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Csr6ahk5RMg

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It is a bit quiet in this thread does anyone have any interesting news on the PS4? :)

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It makes you wonder whether all the ps4 hype is fabricated ?

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My thinking is nothing has changed, the PS4 is still as described by Sony, so it isn't generating debate with bad press.

I currently am likely to be buying this at this moment in time and everyone i know with an Xbox are planning on doing the same, so we shall see how it all pans out. :)

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Not much news but it is something, apparently this is the PS4 box contents.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1372794128

http://www.vgleaks.com/picture-of-th...sumably-legit/

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Woah... a HDMI cable. The boat hath well and truly been pushed out. Argos and ASDA will be hopping mad at Christmas, not to mention Dixons who will try to sell you one for 60 quid.

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I think the Xbone has an HDMI also. :)

Btw you can charge the DS controller from the PS4 usb while it is switched off which will be useful.

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It's about time too. They probably only cost about 50p to make. Whether it's long enough is another matter (oo-er!)

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I am really looking forward to comparing these consoles side by side running the same games.

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Latest EDGE:

http://media.edge-online.com/wp-cont...E256-cover.jpg

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Another reason i may get a PS4 with deals as good as this!!!

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/n...bscribers.html

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Lightbar on DS4 cant be turned off

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/n...witch-off.html

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I hope it doesn't glow too much and reflect in my TV.

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I think its a poor move by Sony IMO

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Sony have officially announced that you will be able to play digital downloads on any PS4. If you visit a friend then all you do is log into your account then you're free to play your game from a certain point while it is downloading.

http://www.t3.com/news/ps4-digital-g...tiple-consoles

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Idea taken from Xbox One me thinks

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... you can already do that with the 360 and PS3. Just log in to your XBL/PSN account, and your Marketplace/Store purchases are available (although you do need to download the whole thing).

What the Xbox One was going to do in addition to that (until the u-turn) was enable *all* your games, disc and download, to be available "in the cloud" due to linking every game to your account.

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Completely correct and because of the ability to do this on the 360 it leads to people sharing map packs and other paid content without the new user paying.

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IGN hands on video of the PS4, I think it looks pretty nice, although I don't like the shiny bits around the buttons on the controller.

http://uk.ign.com/videos/2013/08/09/...on-impressions

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With the news today that Microsoft are delaying the launch of the Xbox One in 8 countries until 2014, Sony have now instructed retailers in the UK to stop accepting preorders.

http://www.neowin.net/news/sony-susp...tock-shortages

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With all due respect, how many Ps3 owners now still play Ps2 games? The whole point of a Next Generation console is exactly that....It's the next generation, 12 Months down the line you're never going to start playing old content from Ps3.

Having just looked at some of the games due out on release, it's mind blowing, but these are just a glimpse of whats to come. I remember buying a game for my Ps3 that was released when the Ps3 came out, compared to the games released recently, it was like something out of the dark ages.

In 6 months to 12 months, anything on the Ps3 will look so dated, i really dont see the point that people wouldnt get the next gen console because of the amount of games they have on PSN. But each to their own I guess.

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The PS4 will be released on November 15 in North America and in Europe November 29. Prices are £399 euros, $399 and £349.

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HHHmmm - I only ever really got a ps3 for the multimedia side. The only real time it plays games is when I have my son over.

But I can see the missus getting me one of these for Christmas ;)

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I have just got in from work, is there any exciting news about the PS4 from Gamescom?

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Minecraft is being released on PS3, PS4 and Vita. Is that exciting?

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Not to me, i would have liked a free full price game or even the camera free.

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You will be able to buy an additional controller in 2 more colours at launch, Magma red and wave blue.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/08/20/s...hock-4-colors/

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Apart from release date nothing much

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For anyone getting the PS4 there is a comment going around that an external HDD doesn't support game installs, atleast the internal can be upgraded.

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Is it 100% sure/confirmed that PS3 games wont be able to be played on PS4? GTAV for PS3 playable on PS4 ?

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You won't be able to play PS3 games on a PS4 at launch but there has been talk of being able to play them via the cloud eventually for both consoles, but i think this is extremely unlikely for the majority of PS3 titles any time soon.

So if you're planning on getting a PS4 then just keep hold of your PS3.

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:( why did GTA release on PS3 so close to the release date of PS4 :mad:

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More user base = more sales and the ps3 will still sell for a number of years to come.

You could argue why didn't you hold off buying it until it comes to the PS4. ;)

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no patience either way :(

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Considering the length of time GTA5 was in development it's probably unrealistic to expect them to have ported it to the PS4 in the limited time R* will have had the dev kits.

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For the PS4 folks planning on buying a PS4, it has officially been confirmed that there will be a PS4 Killzone bundle comprising of 2 DS4 controllers the camera and a boxed version of Killzone, all priced for around £429,it is also rumoured other bundles will be arriving soon.

I haven't seen it advertised yet but it looks like a good deal for you guys.

http://www.videogamer.com/ps4/killzo...ed_for_uk.html

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This isn't a dig at the PS4 as it was locked in a box, but it looks like if the PS4 overheats you get a 'red line of death' on the outside of the console.

http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/11...entry596023657

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Drive Club delayed until 2014. Not really surprising as they will need until at least 2014 to rectify the fact that it looks just a bit crap.

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https://twitter.com/AnnoyedGamer

Seems like Sony are preventing any play of their console until the thing ships, or just before it ships, and any reviews will be done in staged environments.

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The bad stuff about the ps4 is now getting dug up, apparently it can't play audio CDs or mp3!

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/...north-america/

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To be honest I use my PS3 to play games and watch blu-rays. I have a laptop with a 1Tb hard drive to store my music and mobile phones and mp3 players to play music.

I know a lot of people that store music & photo's on their PS3, but this is being marketed as a Next Gen Games Console. Not a Home Entertainment System.

What I am surprised at is the day one update to allow blu-ray playback, also 5400 rpm HDD. Would have liked a 7200 or SSD. But if 5400 cuts down on cost then so be it.

I'd imagine that 6 months to 1 year after launch there will be a 1Tb or larger variation.

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... and also no DLNA support, so no streaming media from a computer to the PS4, unlike with the PS3 :rolleyes:

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They don't want you to stream your media onto it. They want you to pay them to play media via their steaming and download services. Expect the same with the Xbox One.

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You can't use the Xbox One as a media extender MS have said.

Matt and Damien are you guys buying a PS4 or an Xbox or both? and Matt i know you went to the same show as me what were your impressions on the PS4 compared to the X1?

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Got a link to that? I know Major Nelson was looking into stuff like that but I don't believe he posted anything.

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That doesn't mention anything about streaming from your PC or anything though.

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That is exactly what it means i think, that is what a media center extender does, it streams from the Media Centre on a compatible OS PC to the Xbox and the X1 can't so that, as it isn't a 'media centre extender'.

Luckily i don't use it i use a network drive.

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/08/0...about-xbox-one

Anyway i guess this should be in the X1 thread.

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On the 360 and PS3 you don't need to use MC to stream stuff. If you use something like PS3 Media Server or actually set the right folders up to share then you can stream stuff without using WMC.

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I know but this is talking about the native 'Windows Media Centre Extender' it does not exist now for the X1, you can not have your movies on the PC and use it like you could on the 360, not sure if another app on a PC would work on the X1 it is a wait and see game i guess.

I am not sure who does that now though with a network drive all the rage.

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I've never used the Media Centre Extender stuff for my 360. Never seen the point when you could just run a DLNA server on your PC (like PS3MediaServer or TVersity) and stream using that.

So long as the Xbox One still supports DLNA and mp4 etc. like the 360, there will be no need for Media Centre Extender functions if all you want is streaming.

And getting back to the PS4 ;) Hopefully Sony will listen to the fans and give the PS4 the same support the PS3 has!

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Rumour - Sony will add support for mp3 and DLNA in a 2nd PS4 update.

http://n4g.com/news/1384779/mp3-supp...2nd-ps4-update

Incase anyone has missed it, there is no support for external HDDs on the PS4, and it isn't currently planned but atleast they let you put a bigger internal drive in the PS4.

http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/11...ives-revealed/

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User replaceable HDD though. Would be nice if the PS4 supports an SSD replacement.

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Does the PS3 take SSDs? I know you can use hybrids.

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would imagine so as any drive works as long as it fits in the slot ( few are to thick) would be a waste though imo

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I read somewhere the HDD had to be greater than 160GB and SATAII, not sure about SSDs though, although 1 of those would be seriously expensive.

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A topic for the Xbox One thread i guess but live will likely cost £30ish a year so not too bad.

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I've moved some posts from here to the Xbox One thread! ;) :)

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I guessing a firmware update will resolve this. PS4 doesnt suppoort 3D Blu Ray according to the manual.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/n...ray-discs.html

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Rather odd that neither Next Gen console will play 3D Blu Rays from the get go!

Bit odd that TBH. I use my PS3 for Blu Rays a lot and also 3D. If I got either new console I would need to keep my PS3 so I could continue to watch my full movie collection.

I know there will probably be updates to rectify ths but why they can't do 3D from launch is a bit strange.

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For everyone here getting a PS4 the reviews are starting to filter in, 1 of the surprising things i picked up on though is NO 5ghz wireless support.

http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/11...ystem-reviews/

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Those reviews will be on pre-release OS though so the lack of 802.11n might not be the case for the RTM consoles.

The biggest problem with the PS4 is actually that the launch titles aren't exactly stellar so it's probably not worth buying one for another 6-12 months, in fact you could say the same about the Xbox One unless you really want Forza 5 which looks like a bit of a con.

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News just in COD: Ghosts campaign actually runs at 720p out of the box. It will need a day one patch to enable 1080p for single player.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com...-ps4-campaign/

Also it is possible to install an SSD to the PS4. Video walkthrough and test.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8_nt2Dwf78

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I can't see the point of installing an ssd, surely it would cost far to much so not worth it.

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Its faster? maybe in time when they get cheaper though.

Really don't like the UI of the PS4.

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Yes it is faster but it would cost way too much for years, I also heard the interface was sata2 only, I think the X1 is to.

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There appears to be alot of early reports of people having bricked PS4s, lets hope it isn't as bad as it seems.

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Had a shot of a PS4 today in Game. Contoller was great but really don't like the UI.

Also only demos were Knack and Fifa. Neither sold the system to me.

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Do you intend to get a PS4 eventually as well as an X1?

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I've just bought one.

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So you went from not wanting any console to owning both soon in under a week? :)

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Well I bought a new PC. Then I found out about the Xbox. Then I was browsing Amazon and just...yeah. ordered a new capture card bumping it up to three capture cards and three monitors. If the new cards have X split support then I could even record all three side by side.

I had an Xbox one controller ordered and forgot. So now ill have two. I very rarely play local MP.

I've spent £2810 in the past week on gaming related stuff.

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Sounds a bit excessive. ;)

I could do with a better TV if you have any money spare. ;)