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Not happy then Jim?.

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I seem to have got him over his entire Chelsea career when ticking it off. Had to re-check to notice it.

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Not a bad player, just think £25 million would have been a bit overpriced, £40 m is way over the top.

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Sadly the transfer market is behaving like the mad hatter on steroids.

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Speaking of transfer values, £198 million for Neymar. :confused:

And going to a team in what is in reality a second tier league.

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Utter madness........:td:

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Apparently you could get 77 Lee Cattermoles for that money.:D

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77 Lee Cattermoles might win you the title as well..:D

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Only if you could play them all at the same time.:D

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~£66m a year in wages before tax too. To put that in perspective that's roughly what Pogba, Aguero, Lewandowski, Dybala, Hazard and Reus get paid combined. It's more than most teams in the premier league pay their whole starting 11.

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Apparently Neymar and PSG lawyers turned up to pay the release clause this morning but La Liga have refused to accept it.

I get that the state of Qatar being the ones paying it is dodgy as hell but there doesn't seem to be any existing rules forbidding it so i can't see them getting away with refusing it. Unless they are hoping FIFA/UEFA will suddenly add a new rule before the end of the window, that seems unlikely though.

Whatever the case, this is a proper transfer drama saga :)

Edit - BBC link that will hopefully have more info later http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40814854

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It will go through eventually one suspects.

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Yeah I would imagine Barca will pressure them to accept it sooner rather than later so they can get moving with whoever they have in mind to replace him, they don't currently have anyone in the squad that comes close to being good enough.

It's already only 2 weeks until the new season starts so they are going to get fleeced for whoever it is. The likes of Dembele who before this saga would reasonably have went for £70-90m ish are suddenly going to cost them £100m+.

I kinda hope they end up with someone who isn't good enough tbh, things could do with being shaken up.

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Neymar £782,000 a week FFS football gone totally mad now

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40762417

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Christ, that's even worse than reported before. Roughly £1.5m per week before tax.

I'm a Manchester United fan and have seen loads of people asking why we didn't just pay his release clause and get him. Pogba's £89m transfer (on £190k a week last season rising 25% now we're in the CL) was mentioned non stop in every match last season, can you imagine the constant slagging we or any club in the league signing him would have gotten paying Neymar that ridiculous amount!

I sincerely hope that those kind of wages never reach the premier league. We slag of City for how they came about their money in the past but this is on a whole other level.

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He will earn 45m euros (£40.7m) a year - 865,000 euros (£782,000) a week - before tax

Which brings it to: £515,000 per week £73,571 per day £3,065 per hour £51 per minute

Even before tax it's technically still not the highest paid wage in the world to a Footballer with Lavezzi pocketing up to £800,000 a week at times and Tevez earning near £700,000 after tax by getting a weekly wage of 615,000 with a bonus if he appears on the pitch (appearance fee). It's just the highest seen in Europe. Even with wages in the equation, both Ronaldo and Messi both pocket near £80 million a year in endorsements, Ronaldo's endorsement with Nike is worth near a billion alone.

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http://www.itv.com/news/2017-08-03/p...ing-of-neymar/

I find this transfer absolutely disgusting. The biggest problem we have today in football is pure greed.

Its like Daniel Levy putting a 300.mil clause in Harry Kane or Alli contract. And someone comes up with the silly money.

And the club have to accept it.

I personally feel that at the end of the day, with this silly disgusting money. There has be a line that world football bodies have to say - enough is enough.

No matter who they are - no one is worth that much money to play 90 minutes football.

Its like Ronaldo said in court the other day ' Its only because its me that l am here' The biggest pampred little kid l have ever seen - over 500.000 a week. Ludicrous money.

And at the end of the day its US, who will end up paying more to get into grounds, more on shirts etc etc.

And yet lower clubs, that play in front of 600 fans get NOTHING, from the FA or world football.

Agents make all the money, clubs make all the money. And the fans get an increase.

I read recently that Spurs are top of pile for expensive stuff. My son tried to buy a new Spurs shirt from Sports Direct recently, and he was quoted £75.00

I told the salesman - l want the shirt not the hanger as well, he just laughed,

Disgusting sort of money.

In fact to prove a point. When Spurs play at Wembley against Juventus. The company organising it are reducing prices as they cannot sell enough tickets. As the game is being organised by another company - fans being ripped off at every time

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My season ticket at United has remained the same price for the past six years now. ;)

Home shirt is £50 for kids, £60 for adults, still wouldn't get me paying that for a replica shirt. :(

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A total rip off as you say especially when they only cost about a fiver to make.:td:

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Sod all this silly money. The FA Cup and the long road to Wembley starts for my local team today. Go out and support a real team in stead of paying Sky and these overpaid irrelevant 'teams', with players and supporters that don't have any connection or soul.

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Tell me Mr K do you subscribe to any Sky channels?.

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Not any of the sports channels; only get Sky1 because it's in the package, don't watch it.

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Still paying them though even though you don't think you are..;)

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Why would you want to watch football anyway when Jimmy is bowling like this.:cool:

Always assuming you have Sky Sports of course. :)

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:D:D

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Multi tasking ! TMS on the radio, far superior to boring Sky, whilst watching my team come out on the right side of a second half with 7 goals. £4 admission, can't be bad. All in ultra ultra HD, ie. being there. We're on the road the Wembley now, just need to win 12 more rounds... ;)

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Don't like the ABBA penalty system, also questioning the reasoning behind the Courtois penalty. :erm:

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was nothing wrong with penalty system we had should not have changed it

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I think it is a good idea, the usual way means the team going second is always playing catch up, statistically under the normal system the team going first wins the shoot out over 60% of the time, on the few times this ABBA system has been used its 50/50 which has to be a good thing.

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Virgil van Dijk hands in transfer request at Southampton: "I feel I have no alternative." Full statement on #SSN

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Predictable..

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think he will end up at your team Den

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Unless both teams take their penalties at the same time, someone is always playing catch up.

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Not if they score them, the simple fact that with the normal system the team going first wins just over 60% of the time and with the ABBA system it is 50/50 suggests it is a much fairer system for both teams. ;)

And with the usual system the team going second is always playing catch up, with this system that dynamic changes every two penalties after the first one.

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Whisper it quietly as Julian does get more upset with his team nowadays.;):D

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Id be a lot more upset if i followed a team who have only just stopped short of digging up a dead player to put their 2 cents in.

The pathetic ramblings of nobodies like quinn and kamara has only left liverhampton looking even sadder.

I wonder if there will be a justice campaign if he joins a different club ;)

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Well Jurgen did get us in the CL unlike the special one so its can't be all bad.;)

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:confused: Last time I looked the special one got his current team into the CL proper at the first attempt, Jurgens mob are only in the qualifying rounds ATM.

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When you consider it getting to the sudden death the advantage becomes clearer:

AB 1
BA 2
AB 3
BA 4
AB 5

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SUDDEN DEATH

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Them A goes first, pressure on B.
Team B then goes again, pressure on A.
Then team A goes first, pressure on B. and so on....

Under the old system the person stepping up for team B (if team A had scored) would always know a miss would be instant defeat.

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Didn't take for the 'lump it up to Fellaini' tactic to appear. :(

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Loving Fellaini's new hair style.:)

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Why , why , why do certain clubs think money is no object and pick off your best player's just before the start of the season..:(:td:

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That sounds like a Saints fan talking about Liverpool. :D

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Put you glasses on and read it properly.;):D

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:D He certainly did.

Could be an interesting few weeks coming up.

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Still sounds like a Saints fan talking about Liverhampton. :p:

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Yes it certainly will be interesting as we don't need to spend £90 million on a striker from the lesser side of Merseyside.;):D

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You keep confusing me Jim with that very fine chap who supports the second side in Hampshire.;):D

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At first I thought you were referring to Lukaku, but he only cost £75m, then I remembered that Barca have just offered £90m for Coutinho so I now know who you are talking about. :):p:

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You are forgetting the expensive add ons if he works a bit harder and breaks a sweat and actually puts the ball in the net instead of falling over his own feet.;):p:

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Well 25 goals last season suggests he is not wanting in that area.;)

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He could get double that if he did not go missing during games..

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So you wouldn't have him in your side then? :)

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Only if he transferred to Saints first.....

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Having a poor experience of the over-rated Andy Carroll at our club we certainly are not keen in having another over-rated overpriced player on our books.:p:

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You seem to have problems attracting any players to your club this summer.;):p:

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You can only say that about Carroll in hindsight, time will tell if Lukaku will live up to expectations, personally I think he will.:cool:

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Perhaps the worry they may be sold on to Liverhampton is putting them off.:p:

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Positivity from a Man United supporter unusual this early in the season..;):p:

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We are paupers compared to your billionaires.;):D

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Lukaku has more Premier League goals at that age than Alan Shearer did.

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@adzii nufc

What's the general view in your neck of the woods on Rafa staying on, hope he does, but he's very single minded if he feels his hands are being tied.

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Never mind, you will soon have lots of dosh from Qatar via PSG, via Barca.:)

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He's likely frustrated that Newcastle can't yet afford to bankroll a silly money signing when they needed re-reinforcements all over the pitch. It became harder when the value of average joe inflated to double it's original price, So in such a case, a budget of £100m would have been a fortune 5 years ago, it just isn't this season for Newcastle and we'll have to wait at least a year before he gets the spending power he wants. Basically they're struggling to make their budget stretch now.

If Rafa walked, Ashley may face his toughest test as Newcastle owner, scenes bigger than those when Keegan walked.

-- Back to what I said earlier it's worth noting if Lukaku and Kane both keep it up and stay in the Premier League, they'll both comfortably break Shearer's record.

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If anyone can loosen Ashleys purse strings it would be Rafa. You've got a top manager there.

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Despite popular belief, there are no purse strings, Newcastle can spend what they've made and that's literally the line. Mike Ashley merely refuses to bankroll transfers. Doing business this way keeps Newcastle as a rare breed of club that's debt free rather than the Roman approach at Chelsea in which everything he's put in is expected back in some form or another. Usually by payment from anyone that buys that club, thus owner debt adds value to the club. Ashley did plunge in £150m on his arrival to the club, thus adding £150m to the total cost of buying the club. So yeah, Newcastle can spend every penny they have available but none of it will be bankrolled by Ashley.

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Ah well i've learnt something today, thanks for that. Hope you do well, except against us (L'pool). ;)

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Casino chips compared to your gold bullion bars your owners play with.:p:

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Absolutely Dave.:tu:

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Coutinho submits transfer request.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40897688

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Utterly predictable.:(:td:

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Not good either way, don't sell him and risk him not trying or getting stick from the fans or hold out for as much as they can before selling him.

He is not £90m player, far from it.

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2 years of Wenger to come :D

On a positive note, Lacazette is always looking to move and score, he seems far more active than Giroud.

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What's wrong with Sanchez?

Apart from being a greedy bugger.

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typical Arsenal performance id say great going forward not good at back great game to start premier league season though

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Nor are others sold this summer as the transfer market is utterly obscene IMO.

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Giroud is what you call a lazy coaster who bigs himself up when he scores but when Arsenal need him he goes awol.

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When you lack a commanding centre back and a midfield spine then the same weaknesses will exist sadly Dave.

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Err we needed him yesterday and he scored the winner. He has scored a number of match winning goals for us.

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And went missing when they needed him most missing many easy chances along the way in these crucial matches..

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A bit like Liverpools defence just now. ;)

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l agree totally Jim as you have known my thoughts on our defence for several seasons now and nowt has improved sadly.:(:td:

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Defenders aren't required this season?

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But without good defenders one wins nowt..

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Two great neutral games to be fair thus far. Mo Salah had a decent game, his pace and overall movement is solid but his final product is pretty shocking, first game nerves maybe, he can only get better. Lacazette was fairly good for Arsenal too, as earlier, his movement is better than that of Giroud. I still like Giroud but it's about time Arsenal had more depth in the area. You know you can count on both for goals now.

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A week ago, Gary Cahill was Chelsea's new leader, the step in for Terry, the man to lead Chelsea. He's led them to a 3-0 deficit before half time.

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So much for the 'big six' truly awful defending from three of them so far.:shocked:

Great to see Rooney on the score sheet.:)

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Cahill to me is one of the most over-rated English centre backs in the game.

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Is it any surprise as they have had all summer to sort their defences out and they have done and learnt nothing as Sunday league teams could defend better then Premier league sides IMO.

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It's just a case of being daft, he was being dispossessed and he's clumsily dove in on it.

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Thought Man City had re signed Stephen Ireland, not sure about Silva's new hair (less) style. :(

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:D

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Ok let’s not get too carried away, it’s only West Ham.

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They should get Top 4 at the minimum or else Jose will be out on his ear one suspects.

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Can we play them every week please? :D

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Sadly when one meets their bigger neighbours ;) they could be sent crashing down to earth.;)

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You were saying?

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One swallow does not make a summer as you have often said.;):p:

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It’s just one game and it was at OT so we don’t want to get carried away just yet.

But hell, what a chuffin’ performance!!!

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West Ham set up to defend and for half an hour did a decent job of it, just overwhelmed in the end. Matic has got to be the steal of the season, in fact no one had a poor game but still room for improvement.

That will do for starters though.:cool:

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Indeed, if he can shore up the back four imagine the room Pogba will have to link up with Lukaku....

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Well new centre back signing Lindelof didn't even make the subs bench, get Luke Shaw back to his best and defence looks ok, even with all the injuries and chopping and changing last year they still had the best defence after Spurs last season.

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Missing in the big games, his career can be summed up as a flat track bully so far

Yes especially when the title is on the line or the hammers need a win to avoid relegation. Good to see you're living up to the "new BB King" tag btw :tu:

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Sad, very sad. I was around for the disastrous Moyes and LVG eras but the last 12 months have been a battle for me to get access to see my son. But still, no need to bother with facts when there’s an agenda on the go eh?

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Was a joke BB so no need to bother with facts, if you can't see that perhaps it's you that's "the sad little man", still nevertheless I genuinely hope you got your access sorted out

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Premier League clubs to discuss proposed introduction of new summer transfer window - closing before first game of next season. (1/3) #SSN

"Majority" PL clubs currently favour early closure of summer window. Some concerns re. competitive disadvantage with Euro leagues. (2/3)

Premier League club talks - and possible vote - next month only related to summer window. Transfers in January unaffected. (3/3)


http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...-season-starts

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YAY! The transfer window being open after the season started is rubbish.

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It's not going to be closed for the whole of Europe though, it's even more rubbish to lose a player like courtinho and not. Be able to replace them

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Exactly and that is why it has to be applied all across Europe if UEFA and FIFA have got any balls..

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Iffy penalty decision, then a truly awful penalty. :)