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spankysmagicpian 30-06-2015 18:33

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015)
 
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35785966)
Why shouldn't they? Everyone else has to pay the extra so why not virgin?
It's probably a case of vm "we want it but don't want to pay for it":D
Anyway nothings been confirmed yet you all may get a nice surprise in the XL pack ;)

On the good side i hope everyone is enjoying the lovely weather.

£3

passingbat 30-06-2015 18:38

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015)
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35786013)
SA will come via Now TV on the TiVo streaming service.

Not that good value for us as we get most of the channels anyway, but I think that this is the only solution available for us now.

Or you could just buy a Now TV box for £10/15.

OLD BOY 30-06-2015 19:01

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015)
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35785692)
no chance of that sky will not let anyone have it at all

There are ways we could get SA on VM,
Dave, but VM aren't biting!

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35786019)
Or you could just buy a Now TV box for £10/15.

No thanks, I just want it as a streaming service on VM. Why should we have to pay for a box???!

theone2k10 30-06-2015 19:11

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015)
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35785989)
All companies are greedy though as they want to extract as much urine as they can out of the bottle.

Isn't that the point of a business though to make money?
If businesses made no money there'd be no company, no jobs and no tv, too many people these days want something for nothing.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35786008)
I can understand where you are coming from, Chad, but VM appear to be basing their USP on the value of their sports package. This is probably a wise commercial decision.

While I would welcome the addition of Sky Atlantic to the XL pack, I think it is more likely that they will add the Now TV streaming service.

Nowtv is never going to be on this generation of tivo, tivo struggles with netflix so nowtv would be useless on it.

denphone 30-06-2015 19:12

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015)
 
People want value but they don't like to be ripped off which is happening increasingly.

theone2k10 30-06-2015 19:16

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35786015)
Why do you say that, Den? Sky would be laughing all the way to the bank! It's already available on smart TVs and on TV streaming sticks such as Roku. It's now the only way we are likely to get SA on VM, given the commercial decisions that they have made to date.

Nowtv isn't even on Samsung smart tvs and they are one of the most popular and biggest brands so chances of it being on tivo are zilch at the moment.
Even youview boxes only have the movies from now tv.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35786029)
People want value but they don't like to be ripped off which is happening increasingly.

Imho football has ruined pay tv the money spent on it is ridicolous.
But people want the football, companies pay stupid money for it and the consumer suffers as a result, then you get those wanting everything for nothing.

OLD BOY 30-06-2015 19:18

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35786014)
No it really won't , why would VM allow Sky to pick up direct customers when VM are already selling the likes of Sky One , Sky Living and Sky Arts in their own packages.

The customer relationship with Now TV is direct with Sky so never going to happen in my opinion.

Well, you can get Now TV on a Roku or via a smart TV, so in my opinion there's no reason why this can't also be a streaming service on VM.

If it doesn't come to pass, it's because VM don't want it!

muppetman11 30-06-2015 19:21

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015)
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35786033)
Well, you can get Now TV on a Roku or via a smart TV, so in my opinion there's no reason why this can't also be a streaming service on VM.

If it doesn't come to pass, it's because VM don't want it!

As I've pointed out they are in no way similar , VM sell the Sky channels in it's own packages and you pay them for it , why would they want to add Now TV and let people subscribe to the same channels but direct with Sky.

Never going to happen.

theone2k10 30-06-2015 19:24

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015)
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35786033)
Well, you can get Now TV on a Roku or via a smart TV, so in my opinion there's no reason why this can't also be a streaming service on VM.

If it doesn't come to pass, it's because VM don't want it!

To put this in a simple way vm already carry the channels available on nowtv (except for sky atlantic), it just would make any sense business wise for vm to have nowtv on their tivo.

OLD BOY 30-06-2015 20:03

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015)
 
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35786027)
Isn't that the point of a business though to make money?
If businesses made no money there'd be no company, no jobs and no tv, too many people these days want something for nothing.

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Nowtv is never going to be on this generation of tivo, tivo struggles with netflix so nowtv would be useless on it.

Had you said the BBC I-Player, I'd have agreed with you. The constant buffering is really annoying.

However the TiVo seems to cope perfectly with Netflix (at least on my box) although it does take about a minute to load initially. Once in, however, it is fine.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35786014)
No it really won't , why would VM allow Sky to pick up direct customers when VM are already selling the likes of Sky One , Sky Living and Sky Arts in their own packages.

The customer relationship with Now TV is direct with Sky so never going to happen in my opinion.

Well, in the end, I guess it depends on whether VM want to give their customers what they want.

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35786037)
To put this in a simple way vm already carry the channels available on nowtv (except for sky atlantic), it just would make any sense business wise for vm to have nowtv on their tivo.

ITV Encore and he Sky box sets are on there as well.

VM don't have to pay anything if they just present Now TV as a subscription based service.

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35786030)
Nowtv isn't even on Samsung smart tvs and they are one of the most popular and biggest brands so chances of it being on tivo are zilch at the moment.
Even youview boxes only have the movies from now tv.[COLOR="Silver"]
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maybe not, but it's on LG televisions, which are pretty popular.

theone2k10 30-06-2015 20:05

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015)
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35786040)
Had you said the BBC I-Player, I'd have agreed with you. The constant buffering is really annoying.

However the TiVo seems to cope perfectly with Netflix (at least on my box) although it does take about a minute to load initially. Once in, however, it is fine.

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Well, in the end, I guess it depends on whether VM want to give their customers what they want.

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ITV Encore and he Sky box sets are on there as well.

VM don't have to pay anything if they just present Now TV as a subscription based service.

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maybe not, but it's on LG televisions, which are pretty popular.

I missed out itv encore on purpose :p: i thought vm got Sky boxsets now?

OLD BOY 30-06-2015 20:08

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015)
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35786034)
As I've pointed out they are in no way similar , VM sell the Sky channels in it's own packages and you pay them for it , why would they want to add Now TV and let people subscribe to the same channels but direct with Sky.

Never going to happen.

Sorry, MM, but that argument doesn't stack up! We pay Netflix directly, don't we?

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35786044)
I missed out itv encore on purpose :p: i thought vm got Sky boxsets now?

I don't think so, theone.

Itshim 30-06-2015 20:11

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015)
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35786040)
Had you said the BBC I-Player, I'd have agreed with you. The constant buffering is really annoying.

However the TiVo seems to cope perfectly with Netflix (at least on my box) although it does take about a minute to load initially. Once in, however, it is fine.

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Well, in the end, I guess it depends on whether VM want to give their customers what they want.

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maybe not, but it's on LG televisions, which are pretty popular.

Works well on my LG however I still tend to use the smart TV and not the Tivo box for Netflix ( sub is via netflix not Virgin so I have the choice)

muppetman11 30-06-2015 20:18

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015)
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35786045)
Sorry, MM, but that argument doesn't stack up! We pay Netflix directly, don't we?

Most of the channels on Now TV are available to VM customers in its various TV packages as is the Sky catch up why would VM want you to have access to this content cheaper and with their customer having a direct relationship with Sky.

If you can't see that I'm afraid I give up.:D

denphone 30-06-2015 20:26

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015)
 
Sadly its very hard to convince those with rose tinted glasses on.:D


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