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pip08456 02-12-2016 18:37

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35873366)
You misunderstand the legal challenges then. They're not about challenging the results of the vote, they're about ensuring the process is constitutionally correct. Surely as someone who is so passionate about the sovereignty of the UK should be endorsing such actions as oppose to fretting that they'll scupper Brexit. They won't and aren't intended to.

I beg to differ but have to go out. I will explain why later on my return.

martyh 02-12-2016 18:47

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35873258)
Wrong - the government needs to take the views of what the leave side voted for. A democratic decision has to be upheld and that decision was LEAVE. I mean, wtf is this where the winning side should be dictated in to negotiations to partially remain in the EU by the losing side of democracy ?.............snip snip snip !

This post shows a complete lack of understanding on how democracy and the government work .The government are responsible for all the citizens of this country not just those who vote a certain way .I voted to leave and i also accept the government need to act in the interests of everyone not just the "winning side" :rolleyes:



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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35873323)

But let's say we're free from EU social chapter legislation, we have privileged access to the single market and we also control immigration? Isn't that an ideal scenario even with a fee?

In truth the social chapter legislation and immigration are the main reasons why most voted to leave imo ,it's certainly the main reason why i voted to leave
I would not be happy about paying the EU money to keep access to the single market and i certainly don't think Brussels would go for it but any deal that allows us to trade with as many countries as possible on our terms cannot be turned down

Damien 02-12-2016 18:50

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35873375)
In truth the social chapter legislation and immigration are the main reasons why most voted to leave imo ,it's certainly the main reason why i voted to leave
I would not be happy about paying the EU money to keep access to the single market and i certainly don't think Brussels would go for it but any deal that allows us to trade with as many countries as possible on our terms cannot be turned down

Yeah I don't think it's realistic. Just coming up with an example to show how some concessions could result in a big win for us.

Ramrod 02-12-2016 18:53

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35873333)
The bellyaching remoaners are turning out to be the worst kind of losers typical in generation snowflake. It would be nice if we could keep the immigrants and kick out the spineless instead :D.

Now that's a thought! :tu: :D

martyh 02-12-2016 18:53

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35873374)
I beg to differ but have to go out. I will explain why later on my return.

The legal challenges are about who invokes A50 not if or when .That is quite clear .

Ramrod 02-12-2016 18:54

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35873344)
So you wouldn't be happy with the situation he described then even if made financial sense to the UK to do it?

There is more to life than money. Didn't your parents teach you that?

Damien 02-12-2016 18:55

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35873380)
There is more to life than money. Didn't your parents teach you that?

All the more reason to give up some for the best deal possible....

martyh 02-12-2016 18:57

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35873376)
Yeah I don't think it's realistic. Just coming up with an example to show how some concessions could result in a big win for us.

Quite agree but i do think the government need to be careful and mindful of the reasons why people voted to leave before giving away those concessions.

Hom3r 02-12-2016 18:58

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I'm getting fed up of bitching breamoaner telling me I didn't know what I was voting for on Brexit/

I knew what I voted for I didn't listen to much information, I knew the second we where getting a vote I wanted out and screw the cost.

And that stupid LibDem woman wants a second referendum NO means NO.

martyh 02-12-2016 18:58

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35873380)
There is more to life than money. Didn't your parents teach you that?

Only to those with plenty of it ;)

Damien 02-12-2016 19:00

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35873384)
Quite agree but i do think the government need to be careful and mindful of the reasons why people voted to leave before giving away those concessions.

Yeah they shouldn't give up freedom of movement imo. The rest of it might involves a bit of give and take. I.E Most trade deals involve some loss of control over some laws etc.

heero_yuy 02-12-2016 19:02

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35873386)
And that stupid tart LibDem woman wants a second referendum NO means NO.

Maybe she'd like to explain how not getting the majority vote entitles her to be an MP?

martyh 02-12-2016 19:07

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35873389)
Maybe she'd like to explain how not getting the majority vote entitles her to be an MP?

Are you thick or something ? that's a totally different scenario ,the result was in her favour so it was correct jeez :rolleyes::)

Ramrod 02-12-2016 19:09

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35873366)
You misunderstand the legal challenges then. They're not about challenging the results of the vote, they're about ensuring the process is constitutionally correct.

......and which, coincidentally, scuppers the article 50 process. Hmmmm, it's almost as if remoaners sudden interest in the constitutional process might have an ulterior motive :D

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35873383)
All the more reason to give up some for the best deal possible....

No argument from me on that point :tu:

heero_yuy 02-12-2016 19:10

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35873391)
Are you thick or something ? that's a totally different scenario ,the result was in her favour so it was correct jeez :rolleyes::)

Sorry I didn't make it clear that she's disputing the majority vote on Brexit as in demanding another referendum but quite happy to accept a minority vote in the FPTP system.


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