Cable Forum - Will Scotland Leave the UK?

Unless the vote indicates the electorate wants Brexit! Then you keep running it over and over until they vote the 'right' way.

A referendum should be viewed as an instruction to government as to the direction they want it to proceed. Once done, it's up to the Government to get on with it.

Referendums should be used very sparingly and should not become the norm.We elect politicians to make decisions on our behalf. The Scots have made their decision. Now it should be honoured. The SNP should be concentrating on increasing their devolved powers, not going for independence.

jfman

08-08-2019 08:51

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36005299)

Referendums should be used when a matter necessitates it. If Scotland continually backs an SNP Government with that in its manifesto that's literally the will of the people. They have the mandate to run one every single day of the year until people get bored and vote for someone else.

That's democracy.

What you want the SNP to do, as an English person living in England, is entirely irrelevant to the matter.

OLD BOY

08-08-2019 09:04

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36005300)

That's not democracy. That's chaos.

If the SNP get a landslide majority of three-quarters of the voting electorate to go independent, that should be enough for them to petition the government for independence.

Referendums every day? What are you on? You just like to be perverse.

Mr K	08-08-2019 10:30

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Wonder why this has suddenly become topical again? What could possibly be causing the UK to break up ? Answers on a postcard......

jfman

08-08-2019 11:01

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36005304)

If people vote for the SNP they get to decide. That's politics in Edinburgh just as much as in London. If people want something else they should vote for someone else.

I don't know why it has to be a "landslide". Nobody uses that threshold to stop a Conservative manifesto on 40 per cent of the vote and minority of seats.

If you want to look at chaos look at London since June 2016.

nomadking

08-08-2019 14:14

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Labour being in favour of Scottish independence is more than a bit sinister. Overnight they would lose a large chunk of their UK electorate and it would make it less likely they would be in UK Government again. What are they planning to put in place for eternity, that could never be overturned? No other possible motive for it.

A huge downside to a no-deal Brexit is that it leaves it open for Corbyn to make a nasty deal with the EU that we could never get out of or even change.

jfman

08-08-2019 14:42

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36005326)

In fairness they aren't saying they are in favour of independence they're saying the decision on whether to hold a vote (or not) should be made in Edinburgh. It's a fairly uncontroversial notion, really. Especially if, as everyone keeps saying, there's no appetite for Scottish independence.

nashville

08-08-2019 18:42

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Sick of the word Independence, We need to be all together as one nation. We could never survive on our own, I believe N S only cares about being the one to go down in history for breaking up Britain, There are plenty in Scotland think the same,

Mr K	08-08-2019 19:50

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Originally Posted by nashville (Post 36005352)

Up to the Scottish people not politicians. Anyway,
we're breaking up from Europe, so why can't Scotland break away from the UK if they want? We could call it Scexit...

Really don't think the Brexit brigade have thought through all the consequences, Scottish independence being more likely is one.

nomadking

08-08-2019 19:59

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36005359)

We get to keep the excess billions we currently send to Scotland, and then there is the money to come from the huge divorce bill. How is Scotland going to reduce their massive deficit? Deal with hard borders and tariffs with everywhere including England. The list goes on and on.