Cable Forum - Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)

If you think upscaling is almost as good as HD (which it technically clearly isn't) then you must either have a small TV, a poor quality TV, be sitting too far away from the TV, have poor eyesight, or any combination of those.

On my TV some of the SD channels look almost as good as HD. I bought my TV in July 2007 on the strength of a review which said that sometimes the SD picture was so good that initially they thought they were viewing an HD programme.

My TV is not poor quality. It's a 32 inch and cost Â£950 2 years ago.

xbox180

03-08-2009 22:31

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watched ugly betty on 4hd yesterday. Not my thing really but absolutely stunning in true hd. Whenever a program is broadcast in hd on 4 the 4hd logo appears, doesnt happen very often.

TheDon

03-08-2009 22:34

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Originally Posted by moroboshi (Post 34846647)

SD will go away, just as black and white and 4:3 ratio did before it.

4:3 hasn't gone away though. There's still plenty of stuff still made in 4:3 these days, and there's still a ton of channels that broadcast in 4:3.

SD isn't going to go away for a long time, there just simply isn't the bandwidth available for every channel to go HD, and for many channels the cost in equipment upgrades isn't worth it as they don't show anything worth being in HD.

Andrewcrawford23

03-08-2009 22:49

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Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 34846694)

I was shocked to find ther was sometihn mad ein black and white 4 or 5 years ago, just the peopel makign it could not afford a colour camera!!!!!! but 4:3 is still very widely used as you said

TheDon

03-08-2009 23:02

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Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 34846703)

I was shocked to find ther was sometihn mad ein black and white 4 or 5 years ago, just the peopel makign it could not afford a colour camera!!!!!! but 4:3 is still very widely used as you said

One of my favourite movies (Clerks) was made in '94 and it's black and white for that reason, and it's considered a cult classic.

BenMcr

03-08-2009 23:09

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Indeed Black and White can be used for Artistic reasons.

Remember you can have HD B&W ;)

Raitei

03-08-2009 23:20

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Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 34846717)

One of my favourite movies (Clerks) was made in '94 and it's black and white for that reason, and it's considered a cult classic.

i was about to mention the same movie, was quite sad when clerks 2 turned colour

zantarous

03-08-2009 23:24

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Originally Posted by royaltiger (Post 34846672)

I think its only Nat Geo that has been broadcasting true HD since all HD channels have come on as its the only channel showing dolby digital on the amp, all others are pro logic as the SD channels. That was one of the things I was looking forward to the improvement in sound quality.

Both FX and MTV are broadcasting in Dolby digital, and IMO MTV, especially live recordings, have looked stunning.

xbox180

03-08-2009 23:42

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live broadcasts do look especially good in hd, eurovision song contest on bbc hd was stunning, its a pity about the songs though

royaltiger

03-08-2009 23:46

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Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 34846748)

Both FX and MTV are broadcasting in Dolby digital, and IMO MTV, especially live recordings, have looked stunning.

Everytime I have watched they are pro logic, they may switch from dolby digital but each time I switched over its always been pro logic only nat geo seems continuous dolby digital until adverts, which I must admit I thought they would be digital also.

Stephen

04-08-2009 00:05

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Originally Posted by royaltiger (Post 34846761)

All HD channels are always in Dolby Digital, however its not always 5.1 there are plentyof progs that are just Dolby Digital 2.0 as reported by my amp.

mhatter67

04-08-2009 00:28

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Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 34846694)

4:3 hasn't gone away though. There's still plenty of stuff still made in 4:3 these days, and there's still a ton of channels that broadcast in 4:3.

Remember allot of new SD programs are now down converted HD ones

zantarous

04-08-2009 01:05

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Outside of animated shows I am struggling to think of many US or UK produced shows that are still in 4:3 apart from the very cheap US talk shows. Everything else is 16x9

TheDon

04-08-2009 01:27

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Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 34846837)

Outside of animated shows I am struggling to think of many US or UK produced shows that are still in 4:3 apart from the very cheap US talk shows. Everything else is 16x9

The Wire only finished up last year and that was 4:3

zantarous

04-08-2009 01:57

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Probably as it started of in 4:3, shows don't like to change OAR during their run.

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