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Do you not think the consequence of No Deal with led to the circumstances in which Corbyn does get hold of things?

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Well you obviously don’t get it, or just can’t read as that waffle you have just typed out has nothing to do with the point I was making.

The point being that regardless of who you may think is right or wrong -

(and you can whinge all day long about the legitimacy of the referendum as you have just done above, it is gone, it happened, as I tell my kids crying about it won’t change it - they seem to understand the concept and they’re 8 & 4 respectively)

- doesn’t matter. Leavers and Remainers are now entrenched in their positions. All the information is out there, no one is now going to change their minds and the longer this goes on the more hardcore will the positions become. Leave at all costs/ remain at all costs.

So pointing out terrible and damaging a Brexit and particularly a no-deal Brexit is now just a waste of time you’re not going to convert anyone to your point of view and vice versa.

As mentioned previously and in the Sky piece, compromise is required, but compromise is a vote loser. The WA was compromise and both sides hated it.

We are at an impasse and I don’t think it will be resolved. The EU are adamant the WA will not be revisited and that is all that is on the table.

Perhaps a new President of the Commission and Council may be prepared to re-open talks but if not Oct 31st will come around very quickly and if nothing has changed what do you do? Ask for another extension? For what?

I honestly have no clue how or when this is going to end, I don’t think anyone does.

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Same could be said of you. Always thinking your view is right. You are not.

Still peddling the project fear bullshit, still trying to delegitimise a Democratic process because you don’t agree with the result and so is Hugh.

The argument about staying and leaving is done with. The majority of people voted to leave, they can see past the lies and project fear from the Remainers. We’ve voted to leave, three times now, that is democracy, you keep going on about people being poorer, utter bullshit. You’re just a sheep following the negative Remainer narrative that leaving will be bad for Britain. It will not, the people voted out so we should leave.

We do not need to be in a corrupt union that mocks us and scorns at us and treats us like shit, why you Remainers want to be associated and Remain in this disgusting bloc is beyond me. They have handicapped us for 40+ years and we can be free of them and stop paying the absolute con job fee to be in their ugly corrupt club.

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Boris Johnson to face court over alleged EU referendum misconduct

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-joh...nduct-11730747

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Good to see a genuine little guy taking on the establishment.

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Why single Boris out, you could summons almost all of Parliament by that yardstick.

And really are we going to go over the 350 million thing again, that was debated and clarified a thousand times during the debate, and mislead no one.

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Personally l don't like Boris Johnson at all but given this has come out today l would say there are some political shenanigans at work here.

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Mick, Ian is agreeing with the need for compromise on the issue and I urge everyone to do the same. A puritanical Brexit or puritanical Remain stance is not the way to solve the situation. A solution involves stepping down from entrenched positions on both sides of the debate.
The country does not want a hard Brexit, a second referendum or another election.
We need to find a grown-up way through this mess.

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You have to start somewhere. If this forces politicians of all colours to be more honest then it's a good thing in my book. Unfortunately, politicians have exempted themselves from the rules laid out by the Advertising Standards Authority.

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Who ? Boris ?? :D

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Sad that you have to resort (again) to trying to belittle people (whinge, kids crying, etc) instead of making a cogent point.

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I wonder if this will damage his PM chances?

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The court case is unlikely to get anywhere but I am surprised they actually managed to get a summons out of it! I am not sure what actual law you can get him on.

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I can multitask belittling people and making a cogent point all in one post and the points i have made in my previous posts still stand.

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This was from Boris Johnson's defence:

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Maybe it should be a matter of law, then the politicians couldn't get away with all the porky pies.

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Pierre, I think with the bolded parts you've nailed the position we're in.

None of the options we have available will work for the country as a whole, regardless of which side you're on.