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heero_yuy 13-11-2018 17:23

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Quote from Mick:

Didn't Nick Clegg suggest the idea of an EU Army, was a dangerous fantasy ???
That was before the EU Empire was mentioned. Naturally it needs an army to enforce its dictats.

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Armies for the preservation of peace do not exist; they exist only for the triumphant exertion of war.
Now who said that? :scratch:

denphone 13-11-2018 17:36

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live

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Boris Johnson, the Brexiter former foreign secretary, says the withdrawal agreement has been well trailed. The UK will stay in the customs union and in large parts of the single market. It is “vassal state stuff”, he says. The UK will be bound by laws over which it has no say. That is “utterly unacceptable”, he says.

Mick 13-11-2018 17:49

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PM Theresa May - is calling Cabinet Ministers in, one by one this evening to review the Draft deal text between the United Kingdom and EU - the last Prime Minister to call in ministers this way, was Margaret Thatcher - history recalls she resigned shortly thereafter on 28th November, 1990. Almost 28 Years ago to the day.

denphone 13-11-2018 17:55

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Robert Peston on Twiiter..

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The prime minister is NOT seeing all cabinet ministers for private discussions on the Withdrawal Agreement and Outline Political Declaration on the future relationship between the UK and EU. She is only seeing those she sees as "key" - which presumably mean those who agree with her..

Mr K 13-11-2018 17:57

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35970477)
PM Theresa May - is calling Cabinet Ministers in, one by one this evening to review the Draft deal text between the United Kingdom and EU - the last Prime Minister to call in ministers this way, was Margaret Thatcher - history recalls she resigned shortly thereafter on 28th November, 1990. Almost 28 Years ago to the day.

Seems like she's successfully delivering Remain. Well done old girl, you've gone up enormously my estimation ! Totally outmanouvered the Brexiters.

denphone 13-11-2018 17:59

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35970480)
Seems like she's successfully delivering Remain. Well done old girl, you've gone up enormously my estimation ! Totally outmanouvered the Brexiters.

According to those in the know Theresa May faces a uphill struggle with Tory Remainers and Leavers. She will tell both it’s her deal or we might not leave at all.

And Jeremy Corbyn has just put out a statement stating this is 'unlikely to be good deal for the country'

Mr K 13-11-2018 18:02

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35970481)
According to those in the know Theresa May faces a uphill struggle with Tory Remainers and Leavers. She will tell both it’s her deal or we might not leave at all.

Much the same thing either way under her plan. She's as cunning as a fox ;)

Damien 13-11-2018 18:04

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It’s when the deal is voted down chaos will really kick in. Corbyn and Boris both hope to become PM as a result

denphone 13-11-2018 18:04

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35970484)
It’s when the deal is voted down chaos will really kick in. Corbyn and Boris both hope to become PM as a result

And that seems very inevitable.

Mick 13-11-2018 18:05

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35970471)
That was before the EU Empire was mentioned. Naturally it needs an army to enforce its dictats.



Now who said that? :scratch:

It gets worse from the pathetic corrupted cretins....

From Guy Verhofstadt in the last hour or so:

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We need a big leap forward for Europe. A relaunch of the project so that we are ready to face the challenges of the new emerging age. We will be on our own in the world of tomorrow, facing China, India, Russia & perhaps even the Americans. #FutureOfEurope #EPlenary
https://twitter.com/guyverhofstadt/s...64912373153792

Sephiroth 13-11-2018 18:09

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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 35970428)
Of course Varadkar wants to protect Irelands economic interests, that is his job. I was in Ireland last week and the potential economic impact of Brexit is all over the news there.

<SNIP>

Ireland is an EU member as well as a sovereign nation. It is only right surely that the EU negotiations should reflect Irelands interests as a member

Why don't you keep the UK's interests at the forefront rather than defending Ireland and the EU?

The EU want to sabotage Brexit and their use of the GFA is a ploy to do that as well as a brazen attempt to protect only Ireland's economic interests.

Damien 13-11-2018 18:10

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35970485)
And that seems very inevitable.

Labour, the DUP, Boris and the ERG have all come out quickly to condemn a deal they haven’t seen. I want to know what their idea for the border and for trade is.

Mick 13-11-2018 18:16

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35970488)
Labour, the DUP, Boris and the ERG have all come out quickly to condemn a deal they haven’t seen. I want to know what their idea for the border and for trade is.

Rumour is that that the deal text has been leaked to the Irish Media, (thanks for that disrespect EU) and that the draft agreement sees the UK become a Slave State to the EU, we will be in a Customs Union and it will see the break up of the UK Union, Northern Ireland etc.

Damien 13-11-2018 18:18

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Why would a customs union see the break up of the UK?

Mick 13-11-2018 18:23

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35970493)
Why would a customs union see the break up of the UK?

That the deal text says there must be a Hard border down the Irish sea perhaps ?


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