Cable Forum - General Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 1.

SKY Atlantic is the best channel not only on British TV but the whole wide world. Viewing figures are so low because the channel is too cool to be proper mainstream. That's why Virgin or BT will never get the channel. It's reserved for cool cats like Muppetman and I. If you ain't happy about that, write a letter to your local MP or somethin' :D

devilincarnate

23-03-2013 16:48

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Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35552240)

Are there no channels on VM that Sky customers want in the same way as the popular atlantic?

There is Film 4 HD?

passingbat

23-03-2013 16:50

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35552285)

I would agree with you, but a poster in this thread/page did state that

Are there no channels on VM that Sky customers want in the same way as the popular atlantic?

That was the point I was trying to address when I stated I am not sure if shows on a channel which garner 2-3% of the potential viewing audience could be classed as "popular"...

But in the context of this thread, Qtx is correct in what he stated in that the addition of Sky Atlantic to VM is a popular request on this thread, which infers that it would be a popular channel on VM.

johnasimmons

23-03-2013 16:57

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Regarding Sky Atlantic: maybe VM should obtain it from Sky like they get BoxNation ie a monthly fee; this way people who want SA can have it (albet at a price) and those that do not want it don't subscribe... just a idea so don't shoot me...

denphone

23-03-2013 16:58

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35552289)

My my what has the world come too when we get the Dark master and his loyal apprentice holding the world at ransom with their obedient servants walking single file behind them.;):D

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=sa...w=1366&bih=653

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=sa...w=1366&bih=653

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=sa...w=1366&bih=653

andy_m

23-03-2013 17:01

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Ten million subscribers to Sky means closer to 3 or 4 times that number who actually live in a household which has Sky.

But viewing figures are only really a small part of the story here - Sky estimate the channel drives a quarter of its new subscriptions, and I'm sure somebody will trot out the usual arguments about time shift viewing. It has a value to Sky in excess of its audience share and advertising revenue.

johnasimmons

23-03-2013 17:02

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35552295)

What you on Den? (and can I have some please) ;)

Pster72

23-03-2013 17:06

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35552289)

Oh dear a Sky kiss ass

Chad	23-03-2013 17:12

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Originally Posted by Pster72 (Post 35552300)

Oh dear a Sky kiss ass

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/03/31.jpg https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2013/03/9.gif

Hugh	23-03-2013 17:24

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Play nicely, boys and girls...

passingbat

23-03-2013 17:30

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35552290)

There is Film 4 HD?

I believe that Sky are already due to get that sometime this year.

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Originally Posted by Pster72 (Post 35552300)

Oh dear a Sky kiss ass

I think you may have missed the grin emoticon at the end of Chad's post ;)

Anyway Chad, I claim 'coolness' by association. Well, we do post on the same thread! :D

muppetman11

23-03-2013 17:40

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35552297)

But viewing figures are only really a small part of the story here - Sky estimate the channel drives a quarter of its new subscriptions, and I'm sure somebody will trot out the usual arguments about time shift viewing. It has a value to Sky in excess of its audience share and advertising revenue.

I would imagine Sky value its deal for shows on a total viewership over the life of the deal , the BARB figures only represent live viewing plus 7 day time shifted viewing , Sky now regularly put their content on its OD service as full boxsets they also tend to run the previous series a few weeks before the new series airs , Game of thrones series one also picked VM viewers up when it aired on Sky One and further down the line shows can air on Pick TV as an example the Orignal Stike Back series aired on Pick TV.

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35552307)

I believe that Sky are already due to get that sometime this year.

September this year.

kop32

23-03-2013 17:42

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35552295)

Oh Den,Den,Den......http://bit.ly/XxGJm7 :D

Qtx	23-03-2013 18:18

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35552256)

It all depends on the Studio and the deal they have made with the service provider that has first run rights.

What you suggest is a good idea, but I am pretty sure that the deal between Sky and HBO prevents that happening.

Many TV shows have first run and second run rights, where a pay TV channel shows it first and a Freeview TV channel shows it a year or so later. Castle is an example; Alibi show it first and channel 5 show it later. I can't think of any Sky show, that is first shown on a Sky pay TV channel and then shown on a non Sky freeview channel later. So it looks as if Sky buys both first and second run rights to all the shows they buy. Plus, HBO seem to like to restrict how their content is shown, so that isn't likely to help.

Cheers for the info. Sure hope that HBO doesn't start a trend with the extreme restrictions. They do make (and have made) some great series so I guess this has given them more leverage in any deals.

The media world is so cut throat due to the money to be made. Not pleasant at all