Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Many thanks for these banners None.

Although the use of these graphics is not being policed, may I please request that they are only used by webmasters and websites who are actively trying to block Phorm.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

really good banners !

Great news from the online Independent today :-

"Online tracking firm Phorm sees losses double"

" Friday, 11 April 2008


Phorm, the online advertising service accused of illegally tracking individuals' web-browsing histories in order to target marketing, announced annual losses of $32.8m (£16.6m) yesterday"

Do we have an address - e:mail or otherwise to sign an opt-out with Virgin

I want to get mine in and acknowledged asap

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I saw a piece on BBC breakfast that a council had spied on a family about school admissions, on there was a Liberty representative, stating that the council had used RIPA to do the surveillance and how outraged they were.

I got in touch with Liberty some time ago about about Phorm and it's online tracking plans, as yet they've not replied, so it's time for a more strongly worded letter to them I think. They also have a link to a Human Rights privacy laws easily explained site called Your Rights.

http://www.yourrights.org.uk/your-ri...cy/index.shtml

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Sorry if I've missed them, but do we have any 'Signature' banners for people to use on forums?

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Thanks Alex @ Phorm - I look forward to the honest, open and non-spun answers for my 2 questions about Fraud and Cookie Copyright!

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

http://www.techradar.com/news/intern...ted-ads-315311

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its interesting reading the ad network spin on this, they might be doing us a favour in that they are getting it wrong but convincing the other ad networks they might be in trouble too.

http://www.bcs.org/server.php?show=conWebDoc.18667

...
Several big name companies have signed up to use Phorm's technology, which monitors a user's browsing history.

Both commercial companies and social networking sites are known to use a similar system.

However, critics have said such technology infringes privacy laws by using users' data for commercial gain.
..."

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ohh its hit which?

http://www.which.co.uk/reports_and_c...557_136309.jsp

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Just read the full interview with Kent on TechRader (here) and he just doesn't like to answer some questions he doesn't like and instead just reiterates the same prepared crap, he ought to be in politics. Regardless of what he says I get a feeling he realises he's in really hot water over interception.

Oh and Kent when you say "Our aim is to continue to educate people on our system in order to reassure the small minority who have expressed concerns that they can trust our technology to safeguard their privacy." I can reassure you that the 'small minority' is everybody who's heard of your system, it's growing in number and the more we learn about Phorm the more concerned we become.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I particularly like the part of his answer where he says that Phorm obtain user consent for interception.

My question to Kent: I have no intention of giving my consent for you to intercept my data, and I will be blocking all connections to your cookie server domains as well. So that being the case, just how do you propose to determine that I have "opted out" without intercepting at least some of my data?

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Same old same old

Look, PhormTeam - it's simple. If your technology is the leap forward that you claim then you should have no trouble making it strictly opt-in. Two distinct routes through my ISP, Phorm and regular.

You can't do it simply because you have sold your customers the dream of making a captive audience out of more or less everyone in the UK with a BB connection. Failure to deliver means they will leave in droves. Without the captive audience you are just another spyware company touting for business.

Repeating the same speech and answering only "approved" questions convinces no-one. You are a spyware vendor who happened to work out that putting your wares into exchanges where we can't remove it would solve all your problems. Welcome to the real world.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

see this thread for anti-Phorm banners and sigs : http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugi...opic.php?384.0

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Brilliant! Feel free to use my Philth graphic

<---- Here

If anybody wants it.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Nice! :cool:

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

There is something else I'd like Phorm to supply - the surveys they keep going on about. I bet the question "would you like all your web activity monitored" never came up :p:

Come on Phorm supply us with the questionnaires, the (anonymous) results, anything so they can be peer reviewed to their relevance to your system.

Maybe we could formulate a questionnaire to survey whether people want this system.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Well, he did study politics...

Kent attended St Paul's School, London and holds a Bachelor's degree in Politics from Princeton University.

http://www.phorm.com/about/exec_ertugrul.php

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Of surveys, as we all know - If you want the "right" answer one needs only ask the right question...

With Phorm however, asking any question of them will result in only replies which are favourable to themself... hmmm... they think we don't realise that...

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I notice that he doesn't mention 121Media a known adware/spyware/rootkit company here. Open and honest? My Ar*e!