re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
 

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
 

Majority of voters would back Norway-style deal: https://twitter.com/Pete_Spence/stat...22463659298816

Don't believe it. Migration is the most popular reason to vote Leave. Mental if they went with the Norway option in the end. I suspect some in Leave like the idea because it does reduce the laws from the EU.

Although looking at the breakdown it would be largely Remain voters in favour.

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
 

That is because no one can say what will happen. Those who vote to stay think it's a vote for the status quo when that is not the case - a case of better the Devil you know. A vote to remain in my opinion would give the EU the green light to carry on regardless imposing stupid laws that don't really apply to the UK but have to be observes nonetheless. Those who vote to leave know it won't be a case of the status quo and want no part of an eventual EU Super State. We can see where the EU is headed. With closer political and monetary integration it's only a matter of time before the UK have to join in or be left out in the cold. Also, with more countries joining the EU, (forget Turkey, they won't be joining in our lifetime), this will mean more migrants coming into Britain.

This is just my feeling but I hope you consider it before making your decision.

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
 

Cameron has finally decided to tackle the threat of pensioners voting out by threatening their state pensions .In order to close the financial black hole created by leaving he would have to look at cutting pensions

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2...s-dear-if-fun/

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
 

And I thought he couldn't stoop any lower.....:rolleyes:

He is now officially worse than blair.

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
 

Like pensions would be cut anyway. They would triple tuition fees, remove all benefits for the under 35s or introduce a youth tax before they'll touch pensioners' bus passes let alone pensions.

He is right that if there was a cost to leaving that would be made up somewhere but it is nothing but a lie that it would be a cost that the biggest voting bloc in the country would have to pay.

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
 

Well lets threaten them by kicking them out.

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
 

well to be fair he hasn't attacked babies yet ,as far as i can see its do as i say or i will shoot the family puppy politics i think an attack on pensioners will see the end of his career .

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Watching him on Andrew Marr this morning i got the impression of veiled threats .He would punish people if we voted out by attacking their finances regardless of what actually happens to our economy

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i also got that impression .

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I believe there is bad news to come re pensions, benefits, taxes etc. whatever we do. We're far from out of the hole and someone's going to have to pay for all the chicanery, spending and borrowing done in the lead up to the crisis and thereafter.

Maybe HMG quite likes the idea of having someone else to blame (i.e. the EU) when things get really tough... :shrug:

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It won't be pensions that will have to pay.

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It will sooner or later but they may be the last to feel the pressure. There's really not much scope to take much from people reliant on the state pension but those who've retired early on very generous public sector pensions will feel the pressure I'm sure. Nothing's safe anymore.

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According to Cameron in the Express today we are nearing the end of austerity ,everything is looking rosy ,which is not the impression i got at the last budget

So is this statement from today another veiled threat .....stay in Europe of i will force more austerity on you

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If Cameron's argument is that the economy will be hit then there would be a cost to that. The economy does actually have implications for day to day life. Especially if we hit recession.

I do think the pension threat won't happen though. The government wouldn't dare.