Cable Forum - General Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015)

Only for people who like sports. Non sports watchers on XL are subsidising the cost of free BT sports.

Fair enough, that is a VM targeted decision. But it means that all the non sports fans who want all the pay TV channels are better off elsewhere or Cord Cutting.

don't forget sky wont let any one have SA at all and other than some HD channels not a lot non sport channels that VM don't have

passingbat

26-06-2015 13:43

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35785245)

Under the current deal Virgin pay BT £75 million pounds per year to carry their channels. If the new channel is to be included in XL Virgin will need to renegotiate the deal. How much will BT be looking for? £85 million per year? £100 million per year? That's crazy money.

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35785318)

don't forget sky wont let any one have SA at all and other than some HD channels not a lot non sport channels that VM don't have

But that 75 million has to come from somewhere, and as a non sports watcher, I resented paying my part towards it. Therefore I quit XL and used the money for streaming services.

Ultimate.Conj

26-06-2015 13:47

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35785320)

But that 75 million has to come from somewhere, and as a non sports watcher, I resented paying my part towards it. Therefore I quit XL and used the money for streaming services.

It doesn't matter what package you have, VM will use all of their money to put towards it. Leaving the XL pack seems a little extreme.

You can pay VM for just broadband, but they will use that money to pay for BT Sports for customers to have on their XL Package.

I did read your original post incorrectly and I apologise for that. Trying to read quick while at work :-)

passingbat

26-06-2015 13:52

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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35785321)

It doesn't matter what package you have, VM will use all of their money to put towards it. Leaving the XL pack seems a little extreme.

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You call it extreme.... I call it a really sensible thing to do :D And it saves me some money!

denphone

26-06-2015 13:55

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Well each to their own as at the end of the day we do have that freedom of choice.

theone2k10

26-06-2015 14:04

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35785277)

Media Boy EXCLUSIVE: BT Sport Europe may launch on XL Pack on August 1st.

We now think as Virgin Media has the rights to BT Sport Europe it safe to post what we was told on Tuesday (The following is still not 100% confirmed):

-Virgin hopes BT Sport Europe to be included in XL package.

©copyright 2015 Media Boy 2006 - 2015. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

If it does go into the xl pack expect a significant price rise to follow.

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Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35785302)

Everything on Atlantic and virtually everything on Netflix is obtainable by anybody with an Internet connection in excellent, sometimes better than broadcast quality files to download and watch whenever they feel like, live sports are exactly that, you really need to watch them as they happen, Yes I know some people will say you can stream them, but usually the quality and reliability of streaming is rubbish. Live sport sells, Atlantic not so much.

Sorry but nbcsports is cracking quality as is fox sport too both stream online (via a vpn and us login) not quite as good as Sky hd but almost there.

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35785324)

You call it extreme.... I call it a really sensible thing to do :D And it saves me some money!

Agree with this best thing i did was cut the cord, ok i have plusnet tv now but that's only £8p/m including hd and has the channels i watch that plus £7p/m to my friend in the US for xfinity = much better value than vm could ever give.

Ultimate.Conj

26-06-2015 14:13

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35785324)

You call it extreme.... I call it a really sensible thing to do :D And it saves me some money!

If it means more money for beers down the pub, that's the best thing you could have ever done haha :)

figgyburn

26-06-2015 14:14

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We may get it included in the xl pack but we all know we will pay for it later on through price rises.i would have been quite happy to have paid an extra fiver a month for it.after all it's only the price of a pint of beer up the town in edinburgh.this would have meant that non sport viewers were not having to pay for something they have no interest in.i think virgin should be letting people "pick and mix"their channels as i only watch about ten channels max out of all the channels available.

theone2k10

26-06-2015 14:24

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Originally Posted by figgyburn (Post 35785333)

Unlikely but it could happen, especially as Sony announced at E3 that Sony vue customers can soon subscribe to individual channels rather than packs.
Who knows vm and sky may think "hold on Sony are onto something here we want a piece of that pie"

heero_yuy

26-06-2015 14:36

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Originally Posted by figgyburn (Post 35785333)

Even better though probably difficult to administer would be that all channels, films and sport are available but you pay for the one(s) and the time you actually view. A sort of Pay As You View in like pence/pounds per hour depending upon the content.

spiderplant

26-06-2015 19:57

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35785311)

And yet people are leaving both VM and Sky in their droves

I'm not sure how big a "drove" is, but VM's churn is at a record low.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...,d.ZGU&cad=rja

muppetman11

26-06-2015 20:02

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35785398)

I'm not sure how big a "drove" is, but VM's churn is at a record low.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...,d.ZGU&cad=rja

The problem being that these figures are becoming harder and harder to interpret , I agree droves was a poorly chosen word but I'm sure your not naive enough to believe hefty discounts aren't being offered to retain customers.

Haven't VM now started lumping UPC Ireland figures in I believe Sky do the same they also include Now TV subs making it ever harder to get the full picture.

denphone

26-06-2015 20:04

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The question is are they still making quite a lot of money still despite the deals and discounts being given and the answer is yes.

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