Cable Forum - Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

The polls as well as the by-elections show Labour ahead. The only hope for the Conservatives is a change of leadership to someone untainted like Hunt.

Hunt is not untainted. He is a Remainer and will be resented by a large Tory MP cohort.

He is tainted also by his failure to hand over a fit for purpose health service, that spent its money on clinical matters rather than bureaucracy, diversity and the like.

1andrew1

28-06-2022 09:37

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By untainted I mean not a Minister close to Johnson.

The bookies have him as a likely next leader.
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics...rvative-leader

Sephiroth

28-06-2022 09:42

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36126416)

By untainted I mean not a Minister close to Johnson.

The bookies have him as a likely next leader.
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics...rvative-leader

I hope not. He's useless.

1andrew1

28-06-2022 09:44

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I hope not. He's useless.

When you drive a Trabant, even a Lada is an upgrade. :D

Mick	28-06-2022 09:45

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36126409)

The polls as well as the by-elections show Labour ahead. The only hope for the Conservatives is a change of leadership to someone untainted like Hunt.

Tories would not win with Hunt, he is actually Tainted, he was a disgrace as Health Secretary. He also hinted at stronger lockdowns, like China, he is not favoured to be leader.

papa smurf

28-06-2022 09:54

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The polls as well as the by-elections show Labour ahead. The only hope for the Conservatives is a change of leadership to someone untainted like Hunt.

I can smell your desperation, dream on.

Pierre

28-06-2022 09:59

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In terms of Labour having known policies that people can buy into or out of, I agree that they're behind. There comes a time when you need to put your cards on the table and be confident with your hand.

This is their biggest weakness, they don't have a position on anything.

What is Starmer's position on the rail dispute?

Sephiroth

28-06-2022 09:59

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36126418)

When you drive a Trabant, even a Lada is an upgrade. :D

How sad it would be if the Lada became PM. Btw, "tuk-tuk" might be more appropriate for Boris.

papa smurf

28-06-2022 10:03

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36126423)

This is their biggest weakness, they don't have a position on anything.

What is Starmer's position on the rail dispute?

On the fence like every thing else.

[Admin Insert:-Fixed your quote tags-Mick]

Mick	28-06-2022 10:16

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36126423)

This is their biggest weakness, they don't have a position on anything.

What is Starmer's position on the rail dispute?

Starmer issued directive last week, no front benchers on picket lines. That order was defied, so there’s your answer.

Hugh	28-06-2022 11:41

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I can smell your desperation, dream on.

I thought he had an exclusion order against you being that close?

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36126423)

This is their biggest weakness, they don't have a position on anything.

What is Starmer's position on the rail dispute?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...strike-pickets

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We do not want to see these strikes to go ahead with the resulting disruption to the public. The government have failed to engage in any negotiations.

Pierre

28-06-2022 12:24

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36126428)

Starmer issued directive last week, no front benchers on picket lines. That order was defied, so there’s your answer.

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I thought he had an exclusion order against you being that close?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...strike-pickets

Indeed the Leader of the Labour Party not supporting the worker.

1andrew1

28-06-2022 13:00

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36126421)

I can smell your desperation, dream on.

Not at all. I'm just quoting the polls. In terms of my opinion I said

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In terms of Labour having known policies that people can buy into or out of, I agree that they're behind.

Hugh	28-06-2022 13:09

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Indeed the Leader of the Labour Party not supporting the worker.

So he’s wrong if he supports the strike and he’s wrong if he doesn’t support the strike?

I thought he was supporting the workers - those trying to get to work by train?

Sephiroth

28-06-2022 13:58

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36126438)

So he’s wrong if he supports the strike and he’s wrong if he doesn’t support the strike?

I thought he was supporting the workers - those trying to get to work by train?

One might conclude that Starmer supports one type/class of worker and not the other.

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