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Dave42 04-10-2017 19:38
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35919013)
That's because they couldn't afford to deny Sky access to BT Sports!
point is having content don't make difference in getting deals as proved by BT and sky VM have all sky content apart from what sky will never let anyone else have SA and UHD sport and got bt sport

theone2k10 04-10-2017 19:59
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35919011)
having content didn't really help BT get much sky content like
Sky didn't really get BT content either yes it's available on the platform but BT themselves maintain the subs, i could launch a prem channel tomorrow (never happen as i don't have the money lol) and SKY would need to carry it on their platform if i wanted, had the licence and paid the EPG fess etc.
So that kind of puts water on your cornflakes.

Dave42 04-10-2017 20:04
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35919024)
Sky didn't really get BT content either yes it's available on the platform but BT themselves maintain the subs, i could launch a prem channel tomorrow (never happen as i don't have the money lol) and SKY would need to carry it on their platform if i wanted, had the licence and paid the EPG fess etc.
So that kind of puts water on your cornflakes.
not having content hasn't stopped VM getting content like that my point

OLD BOY 04-10-2017 21:49
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35919025)
not having content hasn't stopped VM getting content like that my point
Oh yeah? Well, where is Sky Sports UHD, BT Sport UHD and Sky Atlantic, for starters.

If Discovery won the premiership rights, things could change significantly!

theone2k10 04-10-2017 21:51
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35919025)
not having content hasn't stopped VM getting content like that my point
Yeah VM are that great at getting content they still haven't got freesports which is on freesat and freeview oh they won't have BT sport in XL pack much longer either.
Also remind me where is AMC on vm oh that's right they haven't got it on their platform and never will either.
Enjoy your drum.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35919030)
Oh yeah? Well, where is Sky Sports UHD, BT Sport UHD and Sky Atlantic, for starters.

If Discovery won the premiership rights, things could change significantly!
Discovery isn't a bad shout tbh but i can't see it happening however they might get football league only time will tell.

Dave42 04-10-2017 21:59
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35919030)
Oh yeah? Well, where is Sky Sports UHD, BT Sport UHD and Sky Atlantic, for starters.

If Discovery won the premiership rights, things could change significantly!
what has sky not let anyone else SA and sports UHD have to do with VM not have content like they not letting anyone else have it as I keep telling you OB sky will never ever let anyone else have SA or sports UHD so please tell us all OB what can VM do when sky wont let anyone ever have them

ps if other providers had it without VM then you would have a point

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35919031)
Yeah VM are that great at getting content they still haven't got freesports which is on freesat and freeview oh they won't have BT sport in XL pack much longer either.
Also remind me where is AMC on vm oh that's right they haven't got it on their platform and never will either.
Enjoy your drum.

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Discovery isn't a bad shout tbh but i can't see it happening however they might get football league only time will tell.
well we see on BT sport wont we can see them doing another deal suits both parties to do another deal

OLD BOY 04-10-2017 22:46
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35919034)
what has sky not let anyone else SA and sports UHD have to do with VM not have content like they not letting anyone else have it as I keep telling you OB sky will never ever let anyone else have SA or sports UHD so please tell us all OB what can VM do when sky wont let anyone ever have them

ps if other providers had it without VM then you would have a point
You are so defeatist, Dave! It has everything to do with it.

Sky would not like having popular channels on VM's platform that they were unable to bring their viewers, and this would provide an excellent backdrop for a trade.

I mean, if Discovery were to win the lion's share of the Premiership rights, think of the damage that would be done to Sky if Discovery were not willing to play ball with Sky. If Discovery then said that Sky could have their HD and UHD channels if Sky did a deal on Sky Atlantic, do you really believe that Sky would fold its arms and fail to do that deal? That's just one scenario I could envisage.

muppetman11 04-10-2017 22:50
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Oh Old Boy you do seem to live in complete fantasy land sometimes , withhold a Sports channel from the UK's biggest pay TV platform by some distance that would certainly lose them a shed load of viewers something they certainly wouldn't be able to afford if they'd outbid Sky.

Have you seen how much the current rights cost BT and Sky eye watering to say the least.

OLD BOY 04-10-2017 22:53
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35919041)
Oh Old Boy you do seem to live in complete fantasy land sometimes , withhold a Sports channel from the UK's biggest pay TV platform by some distance that would certainly lose them a shed load of viewers something they certainly wouldn't be able to afford if they'd outbid Sky.
They would inherit Sky satellite subscribers if Sky wouldn't do a deal!

theone2k10 04-10-2017 23:29
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35919034)
what has sky not let anyone else SA and sports UHD have to do with VM not have content like they not letting anyone else have it as I keep telling you OB sky will never ever let anyone else have SA or sports UHD so please tell us all OB what can VM do when sky wont let anyone ever have them

ps if other providers had it without VM then you would have a point

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well we see on BT sport wont we can see them doing another deal suits both parties to do another deal
Only suites greedy VM so no deal will be made.

jj20x 04-10-2017 23:37
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35918988)
If ITV play hardball we feel one of the following may happen.

-Virgin Media UK launch TV3, B3 and 3e on the network.
-Virgin Media takeover ITV.
TV3, B3 and 3e will have programme rights for the Republic of Ireland but are unlikely to hold programme rights for the UK. ITV is unlikely to allow their own content to be aired in the UK by another broadcaster. UK rights for many other programmes will be held by other broadcasters in the UK. So if VM tries to go down this road, the content would be very different to that on the Irish channels.

Dave42 04-10-2017 23:48
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35919045)
Only suites greedy VM so no deal will be made.
come on mate think you think bt shareholders gonna be happy with lose of lots of viewers and ad revenue after all the money they spent getting premier league and champions league games

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35919040)
You are so defeatist, Dave! It has everything to do with it.

Sky would not like having popular channels on VM's platform that they were unable to bring their viewers, and this would provide an excellent backdrop for a trade.

I mean, if Discovery were to win the lion's share of the Premiership rights, think of the damage that would be done to Sky if Discovery were not willing to play ball with Sky. If Discovery then said that Sky could have their HD and UHD channels if Sky did a deal on Sky Atlantic, do you really believe that Sky would fold its arms and fail to do that deal? That's just one scenario I could envisage.
Realist OB realist

jj20x 04-10-2017 23:56
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35918994)
Will never happen as that would involve creating content which VM won't do.
Not as a platform operator but if they acquire a PSB, that's a whole new ball game.

theone2k10 05-10-2017 00:05
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35919047)
come on mate think you think bt shareholders gonna be happy with lose of lots of viewers and ad revenue after all the money they spent getting premier league and champions league games

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Realist OB realist
Would LG share holders be happy with losing champions league, Europa league etc?
BT can offer bt sports on their app and website so could gain some of those lost viewers that way. Vm aren't as untouchable as some think infact no company is keep in mind Vm have already cheesed bt off over the Eiresport only time will tell.

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35919050)
Not as a platform operator but if they acquire a PSB, that's a whole new ball game.
I hate Vm as most know but i'd rather they had Itv as itv is a shadow of what it used to be but i think Sky would go for itv too.
Interesting times ahead i think.

Dave42 05-10-2017 00:09
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35919052)
Would LG share holders be happy with losing champions league, Europa league etc?
BT can offer bt sports on their app and website so could gain some of those lost viewers that way. Vm aren't as untouchable as some think infact no company is keep in mind Vm have already cheesed bt off over the Eiresport only time will tell.

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I hate Vm as most know but i'd rather they had Itv as itv is a shadow of what it used to be but i think Sky would go for itv too.
Interesting times ahead i think.
like I said it suits both parties to do a deal mate so think they be one time will tell


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