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Damien 02-09-2020 20:46
Re: Funding of the BBC
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36048512)
[COLOR="Blue"]No - Software Engineering doesn't attract lefties.
Wouldn't you classify me as a leftie? ;)

Hugh 02-09-2020 21:40
Re: Funding of the BBC
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36048513)
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
[COLOR="Blue"]No - Software Engineering doesn't attract lefties.
Wouldn't you classify me as a leftie? ;)
Pinko! (from someone with 46 years IT experience, 15 of which was programming...) :D

Sephiroth 02-09-2020 22:16
Re: Funding of the BBC
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36048513)
Wouldn't you classify me as a leftie? ;)
Studied at Durham?

Anyway, I've no evidence of your leanings.

On the basis of my son, Durham didn't breed sarcos either.

Anyway, the BBC looks like it's going to be a more evenly balanced (if not boring) place.

Hugh 02-09-2020 22:26
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:D
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36048515)
Studied at Durham?

Anyway, I've no evidence of your leanings.

On the basis of my son, Durham didn't breed sarcos either.

Anyway, the BBC looks like it's going to be a more evenly balanced (if not boring) place.
As the joke going round Universities in March went

Quote:
Hearing rumours that Dominic Cummings only travelled to see family in Durham because he'd been rejected by his family in Oxford and Cambridge
Also, I have two friends who work at Durham (one as an Associate Dean, one as a Senior IT Manager), and they contradict your position (being sarcy AF).

Sephiroth 02-09-2020 22:57
Re: Funding of the BBC
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36048516)
:DAs the joke going round Universities in March went



Also, I have two friends who work at Durham (one as an Associate Dean, one as a Senior IT Manager), and they contradict your position (being sarcy AF).
Well, if they're friends of yours, no surprise. How do they think the BBC should be funded?

Hugh 03-09-2020 08:50
Re: Funding of the BBC
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36048518)
Well, if they're friends of yours, no surprise. How do they think the BBC should be funded?
Never came up in conversation, like with most people - this is the only place I have ever discussed it...

btw, well done in joining the "sarcos"... ;)

Damien 03-09-2020 09:24
Re: Funding of the BBC
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36048515)
Studied at Durham?

Anyway, I've no evidence of your leanings.
I was just saying I don't think there is a strong collation between political views and who gets into software development. Anecdotally it may be that people who go into STEM are less likely to be left-wing than those who go into the creative arts but maybe more left-wing than those who do humanities. But that could just be the stereotype.

Personally I think demographics largely override what any one person's interests are.

Remember Silicon Valley is a pretty liberal place which is why the Republicans are paranoid that big tech companies are censoring them.

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On the basis of my son, Durham didn't breed sarcos either.
What does sarcos mean? Is that some sort of regional dialect? I don't like this corruption of the English language. (ok, that's pretty sarcastic).

tweetiepooh 03-09-2020 09:36
Re: Funding of the BBC
 
I think that those who go into to any job from uni tend to be left leaning. It's while in the job that attitudes can change.

If you are in a job that uses public funding you are more likely to want more tax and better sharing of the wealth.

If you are in a job that "generates wealth" you don't want all those "lazy" arty types taking more of your hard earned cash. You may be OK to give as you want but not have it taken.

Pierre 03-09-2020 10:43
Re: Funding of the BBC
 
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I think that those who go into to any job from uni tend to be left leaning.
until they start earning money, good money and see themselves paying back all those loans, and all those taxes and then it's usually a swerve to the right.

Damien 03-09-2020 10:46
Re: Funding of the BBC
 
I wonder if there are statsitics on how university educated people vote broken down by age? It's usually one or the other.

downquark1 03-09-2020 10:55
Re: Funding of the BBC
 
In the 70s American Universities were found to have 3:1 balance of liberal
over conservative academics. Now it ranges from 10:1 to 60:1 depending on which University you look at.

Sephiroth 03-09-2020 11:17
Re: Funding of the BBC
 
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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36048528)
I think that those who go into to any job from uni tend to be left leaning. It's while in the job that attitudes can change.

If you are in a job that uses public funding you are more likely to want more tax and better sharing of the wealth.

If you are in a job that "generates wealth" you don't want all those "lazy" arty types taking more of your hard earned cash. You may be OK to give as you want but not have it taken.
I, like many of my cohort, were Labour leaning when we first started work.

Within 5 years, having a house and some luxury goods (colour TV in those days), I saw the folly of the TUC strike/driven Labour party and switched to the Conservatives whom I can and do criticise but to whom I still subscribe.

Until just a few years ago, the BBC seemed to do a reasonable job in terms of current affairs. I'm not sure when the turning point was - prolly at the start of Cameron's reign - but it is clear to me at least that their compulsory funding cannot be justified unless the new DG sorts this woke nonsense and leftie bias out.

Hugh 03-09-2020 11:26
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"Woke nonsense" & "lefty bias" = "stuff that does not conform to, and support, my world view, so is very bad"...

You weaken your argument by using derogatory terms, rather than using fact-based reasoning, imho - ymmv

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Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 36048539)
In the 70s American Universities were found to have 3:1 balance of liberal
over conservative academics. Now it ranges from 10:1 to 60:1 depending on which University you look at.
Interesting article in that subject from 2017.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/...out-what-means

nomadking 03-09-2020 11:34
Re: Funding of the BBC
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36048542)
"Woke nonsense" & "lefty bias" = "stuff that does not conform to, and support, my world view, so is very bad"...
It is the "wokes", Liberals and Lefties that are restricting opinions etc. Those that criticise them, are criticising that restricting of opinions. They are not trying to stop them from having an opinion.
It's quite ridiculous watching the News nowadays. Only one side of an argument is going to be presented. Any counter argument is rarely explored by the journalists.

Sephiroth 03-09-2020 11:51
Re: Funding of the BBC
 
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36048547)
It is the "wokes", Liberals and Lefties that are restricting opinions etc. Those that criticise them, are criticising that restricting of opinions. They are not trying to stop them from having an opinion.
It's quite ridiculous watching the News nowadays. Only one side of an argument is going to be presented. Any counter argument is rarely explored by the journalists.
Exactly. What's more, those that criticise them with an accurate description such as "woke" and "lefty" draw Hugh's disapproval.


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