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Well, most of us are suffering from austerity, but I'm afraid that's the only way we are going to pay down our debt.

If you max out on your credit cards, austerity in your household will be the name of the game for you, too.

Theresa May still has a mandate for a hard Brexit. For one thing, they remain the largest party in the Commons, and for another thing, Labour's manifesto also called for an end to free movement, so they stand for a hard Brexit, as well.

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Don't be daft, he can't even lead his own party. He'd better make the most of his popularity, it will be short lived.

The majority of people in this country would never vote for a Marxist Prime Minister.

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Well Old Boy pensioners are largely protected from austerity as they had or have a triple pensions lock , i don't have a triple pay lock in the public sector.

Its easy to vote for something that does not affect you so the Tories bought the grey vote..

Maxed out credit cards were not the fault of the young, governments that older generations voted for maxed out the UK credit card , and eventually even the banks went bust.

We will see what kind of Brexit we get literally millions of jobs depend on our trade with them in the UK,and I for one am none too keen on any deal that restricts trade.

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How very unlike Labour to be total hypocrites:

https://order-order.com/2017/06/11/l...-with-the-dup/

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Which will be why Labour tried to do a deal with them not so long ago eh? :rofl:

So nice of them to really practise what they preach eh? :rolleyes:

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Theresa May reshuffles her cabinet.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/election-2017-40231623

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She's going to need to find a few aces...

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If she is to survive she needs to muzzle her enemies in her party especially Boris as his eyes have always been fixed on that top job.

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It's no surprise that most of the high level undermining or May currently being done by certain Tories is emanating from well known Europhiles like Osborne and Heseltine who're still hoping to derail Brexit. Their party loyalty obviously comes a poor second to their desire to overturn the referendum result by hook or by crook. Appalling really.

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Your right even though I myself am a Europhile .:shocked:

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The hard Brexiteers are giving her grief; these are the same people who caused Cameron to plunge the country into years of chaos by calling the Brexit referendum to sort them out once and for all.
The grief May is getting from May and Heseltine is self-inflicted and due to the way in which she unnecessarily humiliated them and they've not forgotten or forgiven her. This was one reason why May's advisers were unpopular - they wanted to get revenge on May's enemies and not build bridges which is politically more astute.

Bit more on those people giving May grief here. https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/stat...22323903938561

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Osborne is quite clearly out to get May after being sacked as chancellor as he has never forgiven her and now as editor of a certain newspaper he has been given free rein to aim his poisonous barbs at her..

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His sacking is clearly also linked to his venom but the big factor in what he's doing now is Brexit IMHO. If May were on the same side and struggling to keep the UK in the EU he'd keep his mouth shut.

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You seem to forget that the triple lock was established in an effort to reduce the abject poverty that pensioners who did not also have an adequate occupational pension were experiencing.

The mistake that was made was that it wasn't means tested, so better off pensioners got the benefit as well.

I have experienced myself the restrictions on pay rises in the public sector since the crash, but I know that this has been necessary because witnout it, the debt will just continue rising. Sooner or later, if that debt was not brought down, the economy would crash and we would find ourselves in a worse position than Greece. Is that really what you want?

As for maxed out credit cards, I think you have misinterpreted what I said. We all have to manage our finances as householders. Some people only seem to learn that they cannot spend, spend, spend without having to pick up the consequences later when the banks suddenly don't give them any more money and demand repayment. It is no different with the national economy.

If we endorse Corbyn's solution, poverty will be the name of the game for the young people of today who will inherit the mess. Corbyn doesn't have to worry. he will be retiring age himself soon!

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Households and economies cannot be compared from an economic standpoint. They are hugely different.
http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co...at-people.html

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http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/16/labour...-2017-6628153/

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So you link to an article by some random blogger to support that argument, Andrew?

That's the magic money tree that Labour was accused of believing in to spend a fortune to bring their wish lists to reality. Tell me you don't really believe that, Andrew.

You've only got to look at other parts of the world to see what happens if you just print money without a care. Fancy a Zimbabwean type of economy, do you?