Re: Virgin Media Homeworks 300Mb
 

I know it's probably capacity but I've always wondered by there is no option for gigabit if it's possible on 3 right now. Not saying it makes any business side sense but if they offered gigabit for £80 i would probably consider it.

Re: Virgin Media Homeworks 300Mb
 

Roll-out starts later this year although it will be a drawn out process.

Re: Virgin Media Homeworks 300Mb
 

I presume the 3 there was supposed to be FTTP :)

It's capacity, yes, but not as you might think it. It's not a problem with the FTTP networks themselves, those run 2.4Gb downstream, 1.2Gb upstream per 32 or 64 premises. More than enough to allow for 1Gb.

At the moment BT Openreach hand traffic over to ISPs over 1Gb links which would be no good for 1Gb products. They've been testing both 1Gb FTTP products and 10Gb handovers in Huntingdon, Cambridgeshire, other trials are ongoing or upcoming, and the product will be going live as part of their Next Generation Access 2 strategy. It'll be a combination of enhanced copper in the form of up to 300Mb G.fast, and 1Gb FTTP / FTTP on Demand.

Re: Virgin Media Homeworks 300Mb
 

I meant more DOCSIS 3 since you have provided in the past a link to cable at 1000/50 but the part about FTTP networks was interesting, didn't know any of that so that's surprising to know.

Re: Virgin Media Homeworks 300Mb
 

Oh that.

Combination of things, ignoring the business side.

Compatibility issue with one of the CPE and the number of channels required to get up to 1Gb (20 as a minimum).

Compatibility issues between DOCSIS 3 and some of the legacy set top boxes preventing VM from reclaiming the rack space and power being eaten up by the older DOCSIS 1.1 kit.

Deployment of next generation CMTS, Arris E6k and Cisco cBR8, isn't finished. Some areas are still running on the older Cisco 10k and Motorola BSR 64k. One of those can only do 12 channels, the other needs specific upgrades to do more than 10.

Which feeds into:

Capacity - the 1Gb products you've seen are being sold on 1.216Gb of bandwidth which is cutting it fine to say the least.

Which feeds into:

People in the UK complain too loudly if they see contention at peak periods.

From the business point of view there's little appetite in the UK to actually pay for such products. Many people are reluctant to pay more than a tenner a month for broadband. One of the products I linked is over £80 a month, the other over £100.

There's no competition forcing VM's hand either. Services faster than Homeworks+ are available to less than 1/20th of the cable footprint.

Re: Virgin Media Homeworks 300Mb
 

Ah yeah that dose make sense shame really since i'm one of the few who want faster but thank you for explaining all of that.

Re: Virgin Media Homeworks 300Mb
 

Unlimited according to https://www.eir.ie/extreme/ i missed the caps bit if there is one.

Also, can there be worse service than BT?

Re: Virgin Media Homeworks 300Mb
 

Comcast.

Re: Virgin Media Homeworks 300Mb
 

Fair enough :)

Re: Virgin Media Homeworks 300Mb
 

I'm guessing since 300 is not being sold to businesses around me that Homeworks 300 won't be either.

Re: Virgin Media Homeworks 300Mb
 

Yes your areas will be still running on the older equipment.

Re: Virgin Media Homeworks 300Mb
 

The max i have ever hit is 40MB/s

Re: Virgin Media Homeworks 300Mb
 

Highest i have ever gotten out of steam was this.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2016/04/11.jpg

Re: Virgin Media Homeworks 300Mb
 

I am literally waiting for my SH3 to arrive. This is torture! :P

Re: Virgin Media Homeworks 300Mb
 

Next we will be getting posts from you about the crap firmware it has ATM. Still in BETA and you've become a trialist.

Oh no, you're a customer not a trialist!

No change there from VM. Always pushing out new CPE before the bugs have been sorted!