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Mr Banana 10-01-2015 20:47

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
Crikey, whats going on here. Whats happened is just wrong, why does it need a debate?

Ignitionnet 10-01-2015 20:55

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35751819)
Crikey, whats going on here. Whats happened is just wrong, why does it need a debate?

Good question Mr Banana. Think it refers to the reaction to what happened now.

Almost a shame I returned a poster to ignore; this thread is tricky to read now but I'll live :)

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35751812)
Presumably your ok with Carl coming round and shooting you in the face now seeing as you deliberately set out to offend him.

I'm a people person on the whole, in the same manner as Hannibal Lecter. Pass the fava beans and Chianti.

martyh 10-01-2015 20:59

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35751818)
I don't think they are, I couldn't care less how offensive, how rude, how derogatory someone is nothing justifies what they did, they are/were the whole problem. How far do we bend over to protect ourselves from these extreme terrorists and what happens when they carry on after that.


and nobody is denying that but while we have such maniacs in the world what purpose is served by purposely insulting the religion they claim to follow

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35751821)
Good question Mr Banana. Think it refers to the reaction to what happened now.

Almost a shame I returned a poster to ignore; this thread is tricky to read now but I'll live :)

scaredy cat

If just for once if you accepted that people have a differing view to you then life may be easier

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Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35751819)
Crikey, whats going on here. Whats happened is just wrong, why does it need a debate?

we know it was wrong and that isn't what is being debated

Pierre 10-01-2015 21:25

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35751789)
your problem is you see no difference between deliberately insulting (in this case a whole religion) and mocking a few individuals in a humorous or satirical way

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Apparently it's very easy to insult Islam. They need to be less sensitive.

If they can't handle their " prophet" being cartooned that's their issue not ours. You can't see that because you're an apologist for them.

TheDaddy 10-01-2015 21:27

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35751822)
and nobody is denying that but while we have such maniacs in the world what purpose is served by purposely insulting the religion they claim to follow

what purpose did killing those two thousand in Nigeria serve, who did they insult. Like Carl I'm a people person to, I tend not to upset people for no good reason but just because someone draws a few cartoons doesn't mean they're part of the problem. Even the leader of Hezbollah has condemned the attacks, you know your a dodge pot when Hezbollah calls you extreme

Oh look, Persians were drawing images of Mohammed centuries ago, with or without a face.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_miniature

Pierre 10-01-2015 21:29

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35751822)
and nobody is denying that but while we have such maniacs in the world what purpose is served by purposely insulting the religion they claim to follow

Then they have won. The politics of fear and terrorism have won because you and your ilk would allow it.

Mr Banana 10-01-2015 21:36

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35751822)
and nobody is denying that but while we have such maniacs in the world what purpose is served by purposely insulting the religion they claim to follow

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scaredy cat

If just for once if you accepted that people have a differing view to you then life may be easier

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we know it was wrong and that isn't what is being debated

So what is being debated as its hard to decipher?

Paul 10-01-2015 21:39

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
If the children in this thread dont stop their petty arguments with each other, I will. :)

Ignitionnet 10-01-2015 21:50

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
Haha! Mr Banana I approve greatly of your new name Sir!

This is great:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/01/24.jpg

Mr Banana 10-01-2015 22:26

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35751843)
Haha! Mr Banana I approve greatly of your new name Sir!

This is great:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/01/24.jpg

Good, it was your use of it that made me request the change, hated the other one but had no idea how to change it. Much happier now.

Gary L 10-01-2015 22:29

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35751815)
yes it is ,ask Gary ,he's brill at making comparisons that make no sense

I've had a look. and it gets my approval.

TheDaddy 11-01-2015 02:19

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35751833)
Then they have won. The politics of fear and terrorism have won because you and your ilk would allow it.

It could be argued that if you look at it like that then they won after nine eleven, when all those hard won freedoms we held so dear were gladly surrendered to the state because we were all scared, MI5 can't cope with analyzing the data they've all ready got on us all but it won't stop them asking for more powers in the wake of this atrocity

Osem 11-01-2015 09:05

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
It'll be interesting to find out whether the two morons who tried to set fire to the offices of a German newspaper which reprinted the cartoons are Muslim or not. Idiot sympathisers or people trying to stir up anti-Muslim sentiment.

Russ 11-01-2015 09:13

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35751833)
Then they have won. The politics of fear and terrorism have won because you and your ilk would allow it.

I don't get that. The sentiment I've been getting from his posts in this is along the lines of "you can have free speech if you want but be prepared for any consequences as a result".

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35751868)
It'll be interesting to find out whether the two morons who tried to set fire to the offices of a German newspaper which reprinted the cartoons are Muslim or not. Idiot sympathisers or people trying to stir up anti-Muslim sentiment.

http://news.yahoo.com/arson-attack-g...065348454.html

That's my worry and is what I reckon we'll be seeing more of.

Hugh 11-01-2015 09:24

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
Some interesting views from Will Self and cartoonist Martin Rowson on C4 news.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152659689741939


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