Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if TPB is a Torrent site, then you are sharing/distributing when downloading?

Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
 

:clap:

A voice of reason.

My feelings are that the media companies have wasted a large amount of money on a failed course of action. They wanted the TPB blocked and all they did was have it blocked for a couple of hours before the block was bypassed. What they have done is raise the awareness of TPB and that its easy to get stuff from that site.

They would have been far better spending the money on more ways to set up legally downloadable content.

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The last Labour government proposed amending the CDPA 1988 to formally allow 'format shifting' but the proposal never made it into law. It is still technically an infringement to rip your CD collection and load it onto an iPod. However, personal ripping is a civil, rather than a criminal matter and as it would be impossible for any rights holder to show any significant financial loss as a result of an individual's iPod use, pursuing such a claim would be pointless and counterproductive.

The main reason for bothering to make the proposed 'format shifting' amendment would be on the principle that laws people routinely flout result in a general lack of respect for the concept of law. It is sometimes better to change the law in such cases.

Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
 

It is against civil law ,but the only way they can enforce it is to shut the Internet down ,which is what this thread is all about ,Why are the courts /government getting involved in a civil issue ,and why block access to only one site .Civil cases should only affect the 2 parties concerned not thousands of innocent people

Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
 

I see. I guess then you become a distributer as soon as you download.

Thanks.

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None, but it's impossible to do that because of the nature of P2P filesharing. You join a swarm and start uploading as well as downloading.


Nope, downloading copyrighted files found on TPB would get you a civil court case if caught but as mentioned several times there's a lot of files on TPB that are not copyrighted. P2P filesharing has many uses. How about 37GB of free music or maybe you want to watch a movie for free. (Note to mods these are links to noncopyrighted material)

Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
 

A couple of hours Sirius?, more like ten minutes. Which goes to show how wrong their approach is regarding piracy. The "powers that be" are clearly clueless.

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correct ,Utorrent doesn't allow you to not seed(upload) the minimum is 5kpbs ,i don't know about other clients but i suspect they are all the same

Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
 

I think that's why only some movies are called blockbusters.

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Been saying that for years

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So what about these newsgroup things? (I genuinely don't have a clue here). Are they just downlaoding content? Or is it the same concept, where you have to share if you take?

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Seriously? Worst analogy ever. :rolleyes:

Then I shall either start or join a campaign to get that law changed as it is obviously ridiculous.

As we've noticed ;)

If you download it from TPB (or wherever) then you how are you paying them for it? You know, the biit in bold of your statement.

Seems like they might be saying exactly that. But what about the indy producer who isn't making millions? Though I don't suppose their films will be pirated so there's nothing to worry about.

Or something like that :rolleyes:

The one flaw in this specific example is that the film isn't even available on disc yet. (And are people so desperate that they will still watch a dodgy, "cam-corded off the cinema screen" copy? :()

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So you decide artwork I produce has no commercial value so you don't need to pay for..whereas I feel it does have commercial value so I want paying before you walk off with it.

Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
 

... which is why we have a separate offence of Taking WithOut Consent (TWOCing, in the vernacular). Also why there is now an offence of fraud for using a chipped box or some other means to get cable/satellite TV without paying. Neither of these is theft as defined by the theft act, but both are still offences and the victim in either case is liable to refer to the act as 'theft'.

Personally I think it's unhelpful for organisations like FACT (the Federation Against Copyright Theft) to keep banging on with the T-word when it doesn't apply; it might keep some of the casual downloaders at bay but all the hardened freetards simply use it as an excuse for a good old fashioned strawman argument about inappropriate use of the word "theft".

The point is, the activity is prohibited by law and there are civil or criminal penalties awaiting those caught doing it.

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Guilty as charged but I can't resist it because I really can't take this topic seriously.