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Big 19-04-2010 08:39

Re: Ban the burkha ?
 
Let's ban fertilizers. Oooops, it has been done.

Gary L 19-04-2010 08:43

Re: Ban the burkha ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35004184)
Temper,temper..and I'll survive.;)

I don't do antagonism ;)

I just don't agree that we have to ban muslims from owning vans,cars,lorries,jackets,rucksacks because they can and have been used for detonating bombs.

Maggy 19-04-2010 08:46

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Originally Posted by Big (Post 35004187)
Let's ban fertilizers. Oooops, it has been done.

And of course that works doesn't it..

How many people who use fertilizer,cars,vans,lorries,rucksacks,jackets and burkhas HAVE NOT blown anyone up in the UK? ;)

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35004190)
I don't do antagonism ;)

I just don't agree that we have to ban muslims from owning vans,cars,lorries,jackets,rucksacks because they can and have been used for detonating bombs.

See this post..and we aren't discussing banning Muslims from owning any of those things either...Nice try at deflection.;)

Gary L 19-04-2010 08:47

Re: Ban the burkha ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Big (Post 35004187)
Let's ban fertilizers. Oooops, it has been done.

Digital timers, mobile phones and wire too.

Maggy 19-04-2010 08:47

Re: Ban the burkha ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35004197)
Digital timers, mobile phones and wire too.

Now you are getting the idea of how daft this discussion is...;)

Peter_ 19-04-2010 08:59

Re: Ban the burkha ?
 
This should be a thread about ban the Berk, let alone ban the Burkha.:D;)

As a security issue they should be banned in airports, back on topic here.:D

Hugh 19-04-2010 09:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35004180)
So any discussion on muslims will be on topic in a thread about banning burqas. mosques and religion included?

Gary, your holistic all-encompassing knowledge of the art of debate has convinced me - you really are a complete master debater......:)

Gary L 19-04-2010 09:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35004198)
Now you are getting the idea of how daft this discussion is...;)

I'm amazed how it's drifted from the original topic as stated in post #1
my post was an example of what the burqa can conceal which went along with the original topic. only to be dismissed with talk about having to ban cars:)

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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 35004207)
Gary, your holistic all-encompassing knowledge of the art of debate has convinced me - you really are a complete master debater......:)

And you're a complete truck :)

Maggy 19-04-2010 09:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35004205)
This should be a thread about ban the Berk, let alone ban the Burkha.:D;)

As a security issue they should be banned in airports, back on topic here.:D

But so should fertilizer,cars,vans,lorries,jackets and rucksacks which have all ACTUALLY BEEN USED in the UK to deliver suicide bombs if you ban the burkha which has NOT BEEN used in the UK to deliver suicide bombs.

However if you are actually referring to the burkha being used to hide identity at security points then you have a case for a ban on anyone refusing to remove their burkha and identify themselves(to a woman) from entering the aeroplane,bank,country but not an overall total blanket ban on the wearing of the burkha.;)

Gary L 19-04-2010 09:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35004218)
However if you are actually referring to the burkha being used to hide identity at security points then you have a case for a ban on anyone refusing to remove their burkha and identify themselves(to a woman) from entering the aeroplane,bank,country.;)

Why do people want people wearing a burka to hide their identity at 'security points' not allowed to wear them?

is it because they might have a 'bomb' concealed. or we just want to be able to see who they are?

we haven't had a burqa bomb concealing yet. so it can't be because of that.
I don't even know why we have the scanners for if we're not worried about the possibility of someone wearing a burqa concealing a bomb because it hasn't happened yet.

if they were going to bring a bomb. they'd leave it in the motorised vehicle they arrived in outside.
that one has happened before.

Hugh 19-04-2010 09:24

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And in English?

Gary L 19-04-2010 09:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 35004223)
And in English?

There are no bombs in burqas.

Peter_ 19-04-2010 09:39

Re: Ban the burkha ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35004218)
But so should fertilizer,cars,vans,lorries,jackets and rucksacks which have all ACTUALLY BEEN USED in the UK to deliver suicide bombs if you ban the burkha which has NOT BEEN used in the UK to deliver suicide bombs.

However if you are actually referring to the burkha being used to hide identity at security points then you have a case for a ban on anyone refusing to remove their burkha and identify themselves(to a woman) from entering the aeroplane,bank,country but not an overall total blanket ban on the wearing of the burkha.;)

The is no reason for a complete ban, only in areas where proof of identity is required.

Kymmy 19-04-2010 09:45

Re: Ban the burkha ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35004218)
But so should fertilizer,cars,vans,lorries,jackets and rucksacks which have all ACTUALLY BEEN USED in the UK to deliver suicide bombs if you ban the burkha which has NOT BEEN used in the UK to deliver suicide bombs.

And all the above are used by people.. Identify the person and you have taken more action in the process of security than any other action such as banning. Burkha's are designed so you can not see the face, I don't though see the need for a complete ban only the need for more sympathy by the wearers with the security of the UK in mind. If this means showing your face to a female official at all security checkpoints then so be it..

As far as it goes in the streets I don't think the Burkha is any worse than a big puffa jacket combined with a hoodie

Maggy 19-04-2010 09:48

Re: Ban the burkha ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35004225)
There are no bombs in burqas.



Does not compute.does not compute

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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35004233)
And all the above are used by people.. Identify the person and you have taken more action in the process of security than any other action such as banning. Burkha's are designed so you can not see the face, I don't though see the need for a complete ban only the need for more sympathy by the wearers with the security of the UK in mind. If this means showing your face to a female official at all security checkpoints then so be it..

As far as it goes in the streets I don't think the Burkha is any worse than a big puffa jacket combined with a hoodie

I agree..I was merely trying pointing out to Gary why foreverwar's point was a valid one to make in the thread and wasn't off topic.;)


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