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iadom 04-04-2007 11:46

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Terrific performance by Liverpool last night, mind you PSV were awful, they must have played some real c**p teams to get this far.:D

Jim.

TheDaddy 04-04-2007 15:14

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Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho has rubbished Valencia's complaints that the away dressing room at Stamford Bridge is a "rat-hole" with only one mirror and three showers. He says it has two mirrors and 10 showers. (Daily Star)

Notice he didn't dispute the 'rat hole' claims though ;)

yesman 05-04-2007 00:36

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Roma 2-1 Man Utd :(

United were up against it for an hour and held out quite well without that wonderful tackler Scholes.

One goal is all that is required at OT to go through.

I have a feeling in the return leg that Roma's formation will be 5-4-1.............It could be one of those frustrating games AGAIN

TheBlueRaja 05-04-2007 09:05

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See English football fans were at it again last night - disgraceful.

I think its about time UEFA stepped in with another ban on travelling fans or better yet a ban on English clubs in Europe for a year or two until they get the message (again).

Good result though.

gazzae 05-04-2007 09:10

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hahaha You're such a troll!

sherer 05-04-2007 09:43

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well once again VDS punches the ball out to the other team and they score .. he did the same against Reading but then we was 4-0 up so it didn't matter this time it did

all season he hasn't known whether to come off his line or not and he starts to come then stops and he never tells Rio and Vidic what is going on behind and in front of them like a good goalkeeper should.. he past his best and flaps at things and punches and it looking too old

TheBlueRaja 05-04-2007 10:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 34268462)
hahaha You're such a troll!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/6528605.stm

Quote:

Uefa has launched an investigation after crowd violence erupted during Wednesday's Champions League tie between Roma and Manchester United.

Riot police charged at United fans at the Stadio Olimpico as both sets of supporters threw missiles.
Nuff said.

TheDaddy 05-04-2007 10:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34268524)
Nuff said.

Not really, your own article says both sets of supporters threw missiles, I don't remember seeing any pictures of Italian fans being battered, might just be that Man U were right about travelling there.

Wonder why you weren't calling for Italian fans to be thrown out of Europe :scratch:

gazzae 05-04-2007 10:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34268524)

So why did you original post only mention English fans?

I'm not stupid enough to think the blame lies with only one set of fans.

You have to ask why when the offence was commited by both sets of fans the police only enforced the law on the english fans?

sherer 05-04-2007 11:10

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well seeing as Roma launched an unprovaked attacked on some fans before the game and stabbed people surely they should be banned from Europe.. they also stabbed Boro fans last year too

http://www.teamtalk.com/football/sto...039789,00.html

maybe people should get all the facts before posting about whether teams should be fined and banned

even as a Man U fan I don't really know what happened and neither to UEFA and the Rome Police yet they are still investigating and checking the TV footage etc

gazzae 05-04-2007 12:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34268479)
well once again VDS punches the ball out to the other team and they score .. he did the same against Reading but then we was 4-0 up so it didn't matter this time it did

all season he hasn't known whether to come off his line or not and he starts to come then stops and he never tells Rio and Vidic what is going on behind and in front of them like a good goalkeeper should.. he past his best and flaps at things and punches and it looking too old

If you ask me Van Der Sar has won us more games with superb goalkeeping than he's cost us with the odd error.

What about his save from Crouch against Liverpool.

TheBlueRaja 05-04-2007 12:32

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I never said anything about the Italian support as we all know what they are like and some of you have already posted about what should happen to that lot.

Besides, this being the UK the behaviour of the English shows up all the home nations and its my right to complain about it and request something is done.

Why is it that when English fans go abroad they always seem to get into trouble. Its always the other team / the police / any other reason you can pull out the hat, never ever the fault of the travelling support.

sherer 05-04-2007 12:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 34268578)
If you ask me Van Der Sar has won us more games with superb goalkeeping than he's cost us with the odd error.

What about his save from Crouch against Liverpool.

I don't believe he's made any saves that Kuschzak or Foster wouldn't have saved but he has made several errors that they wouldn't.. just watch him on crosses and corners and he's no idea whether to come or not

sure he made some saves against Fulhum but when they hit the post where was he.. standing there watching. when they had a chance for a goal at the far post and Brown did enough to put the FUlham bloke off.. where was in .. in totally the wrong place

sure he won a lot in the past but that's the point that's in his past at an team other than Man U he would have let in loads of goals it's just with Rio and Vidic his errors aren't picked up as much until last night.. take the Reading goal he gave them if that game was 0-0 at the time we would have lost it

gazzae 05-04-2007 13:16

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Top 5 Goalkeepers
As at: Tue 03 Apr 07 09:35

Name Index Score Overall Index Rank Team
1 edwin van der sar 406 17 Manchester United
2 marcus hahnemann 401 20 Reading
3 david james 393 23 Portsmouth
4 jose reina 392 24 Liverpool
5 tim howard 385 26 Everton

Actim Index

How accurate is the Actim Index?

The calculations are based on the four key factors that contribute to a player's effectiveness and his ability to help his team win matches. The formulae were devised through analysis of hundreds of games since the start of the Premiership in 1992 and have been statistically proven to measure a player's effectiveness in winning matches.

TheDaddy 05-04-2007 13:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 34268611)
Top 5 Goalkeepers
As at: Tue 03 Apr 07 09:35

Name Index Score Overall Index Rank Team
1 edwin van der sar 406 17 Manchester United
2 marcus hahnemann 401 20 Reading
3 david james 393 23 Portsmouth
4 jose reina 392 24 Liverpool
5 tim howard 385 26 Everton

Actim Index

How accurate is the Actim Index?

The calculations are based on the four key factors that contribute to a player's effectiveness and his ability to help his team win matches. The formulae were devised through analysis of hundreds of games since the start of the Premiership in 1992 and have been statistically proven to measure a player's effectiveness in winning matches.

I am not to sure how much faith I'd have in stats, David James has kept loads of clean sheets recently and yet he is third, one above Reina who Liverpool are seemingly trying to sell. I also think Sherer has a point goalkeepers from the major European countries, most do 'flap' at crosses, although if you did get rid of him, who would you get to replace him? Whilst he isn't world class anymore he is a still class above most and there seems to be a lack of top draw goal keepers at the moment

sherer 05-04-2007 13:42

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well i'd rather have Foster in goal than VDS.. put it this way of VDS had been at Watford he would be lower down the stats and would have let in more goals than Foster has

Cech is a bit more of an old style English keeper.. if the ball is in your hands or off the pitch then the other team can't score

Robinson kept the ball alive in one of Englands games with a punch and they scored from it

VDS kept the ball alive against Roma and Reading and both teams scored

also it's not just the English that cause trouble in Europe

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...rs/6471751.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...rs/6458473.stm

maybe we should ban all Scottish teams as well

TheBlueRaja 05-04-2007 13:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34268636)

also it's not just the English that cause trouble in Europe

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...rs/6471751.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...rs/6458473.stm

maybe we should ban all Scottish teams as well

I'd agree with that and if you'd have looked i created a thread on here about those Admin Edit : Derek S - Enough of the offensive terms towards Rangers Fans and calling them a disgrace.

Its the only way to be sure this doesn't happen. If the fans cant behave - ban them.

Which, to his credit, is exactly what David Murray has threatened to do.

pedantic 05-04-2007 14:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34268642)
I'd agree with that and if you'd have looked i created a thread on here about those Admin Edit : Derek S - Enough of the offensive terms towards Rangers Fans and calling them a disgrace.

Its the only way to be sure this doesn't happen. If the fans cant behave - ban them.

Which, to his credit, is exactly what David Murray has threatened to do.

I'm not really sure which planet you're on sometimes.

Exactly what experience do you have of european football ? And by that I mean, have you actually been to a european fixture away from home ? I have, and can tell you, everything you see on the tv and indeed in newspapers, is for the most part, sensationalistic journalism.

Derek 05-04-2007 14:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pedantic (Post 34268650)
Exactly what experience do you have of european football ? And by that I mean, have you actually been to a european fixture away from home ?

He's a Falkirk fan (so that'll be a No to the 2nd question straight away)

pedantic 05-04-2007 14:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 34268651)
He's a Falkirk fan (so that'll be a No to the 2nd question straight away)

:LOL:

It wasn't a dig at him honest :angel:

I realise who he supports, I'm merely pointing out, if people have no experience of actually being there, there is plenty of opinions simply by looking at footage that the press boys want us to see, rather than the mitigating circumstances. I've witnessed events, before and after european games, that never get any air time, and why should they, that would deviate from the sensationalism the press like to report.

gazzae 05-04-2007 14:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34268623)
I am not to sure how much faith I'd have in stats, David James has kept loads of clean sheets recently and yet he is third, one above Reina who Liverpool are seemingly trying to sell. I also think Sherer has a point goalkeepers from the major European countries, most do 'flap' at crosses, although if you did get rid of him, who would you get to replace him? Whilst he isn't world class anymore he is a still class above most and there seems to be a lack of top draw goal keepers at the moment

Reina has kept 16 clean sheets in the league. 6 more than James. He has made a few blunders so even though he has more clean sheets he is below James.

Does anyone know of a site where you can get proper stats for goalkeepers? Been searching the net and can't find any. It would be interesting to see what the actual figures are for number of crosses VDS has come out for and the number he has successfully gathered.

TheBlueRaja 05-04-2007 14:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 34268651)
He's a Falkirk fan (so that'll be a No to the 2nd question straight away)

I notice how the Rangers fan edited my post to remove insults about Rangers fans.

Classic moderating there.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pedantic (Post 34268650)
I'm not really sure which planet you're on sometimes.

Exactly what experience do you have of european football ? And by that I mean, have you actually been to a european fixture away from home ? I have, and can tell you, everything you see on the tv and indeed in newspapers, is for the most part, sensationalistic journalism.

Looked like Man U fans scrapping with Police to me..

I wonder what planet some people are on within this forum sometimes, standing up for bigoted actions / nazi salutes, fighting with the police etc. Its disgraceful.

gazzae 05-04-2007 14:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34268681)
Looked like Man U fans scrapping with Police to me..

Looked like Man Utd fans getting a beating from the police for commiting exactly the same offence as the Roma fans who had no action taken against them to me.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your trolling though.

TheBlueRaja 05-04-2007 14:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 34268688)
Looked like Man Utd fans getting a beating from the police for commiting exactly the same offence as the Roma fans who had no action taken against them to me.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your trolling though.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your biased views either.

Quote:

It turned ugly shortly after the opening goal as both sets of supporters surged towards the dividing Perspex fence. The police response was brutal.

'Forced to intervene'

They beat supporters as they tried to escape - several were trapped in their seats. At least one was hit repeatedly as he lay prostrate on the ground.

And some fans said they were struck by officers as they pleaded for medical help.

But today at a police press conference, the chief of policing in Rome, Achille Serra, said he supported the police actions.

"To criticise the police is a sport," he said "The British always like to do it.

gazzae 05-04-2007 15:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34268691)
Don't let the facts get in the way of your biased views either.

What have I said thats biased?

Are you claiming the police took the same action against the Roma fans?

TheBlueRaja 05-04-2007 15:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 34268688)
Looked like Man Utd fans getting a beating from the police for commiting exactly the same offence as the Roma fans who had no action taken against them to me.


pedantic 05-04-2007 15:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34268681)
Looked like Man U fans scrapping with Police to me..

Why were there police only on the man u side of the partician ? Why not both ? Why did an Italian journalist say, the police were baying for blood, even before a ball was kicked ?

Little has been made or reported about several incidents, where supporters were ambushed by gangs of "ultra's". why is that ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34268681)
I wonder what planet some people are on within this forum sometimes, standing up for bigoted actions / nazi salutes, fighting with the police etc. Its disgraceful.

I wonder why you have posted about incidents concerning both Rangers and Man U. Two clubs you admit a hatred of. Only making posts to support your own agenda is pretty weak in my opinion. The rest of us will post about other incidents (the policeman killed in Italy recently) for example, yet you don't seem interested in that. But then again, why bother talking about an Italian being killed, when there are plenty of digs you can get in about Rangers and Man U.

TheBlueRaja 05-04-2007 15:11

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Incidentally, i am condoning the actions of the Police here, what i am doing is criticizing the actions of the Man U fans.

gazzae 05-04-2007 15:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34268706)
Incidentally, i am condoning the actions of the Police here, what i am doing is criticizing the actions of the Man U fans.

Why just the actions of Man Utd fans? Why not criticise the actions of both sets of fans?

And you called me biased. :rofl:

TheBlueRaja 05-04-2007 15:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pedantic (Post 34268705)
Why were there police only on the man u side of the partician ? Why not both ? Why did an Italian journalist say, the police were baying for blood, even before a ball was kicked ?

Little has been made or reported about several incidents, where supporters were ambushed by gangs of "ultra's". why is that ?

No idea..

Quote:

Originally Posted by pedantic (Post 34268705)
I wonder why you have posted about incidents concerning both Rangers and Man U. Two clubs you admit a hatred of. Only making posts to support your own agenda is pretty weak in my opinion. The rest of us will post about other incidents (the policeman killed in Italy recently) for example, yet you don't seem interested in that. But then again, why bother talking about an Italian being killed, when there are plenty of digs you can get in about Rangers and Man U.

Yes indeed, why bother about the Italians when it was widely criticized in the British press and on here by other members of the Forum.. The point had already been made. Yet somehow, tables turned and Man U / Rangers fans start to cause trouble (even though it hasn't resulted in any deaths - yet) and everyone jumps to their defence.

Yes, its simply because im supporting my own agenda, thats all it is.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 34268710)
Why just the actions of Man Utd fans? Why not criticise the actions of both sets of fans?

And you called me biased. :rofl:

I do... but as i mentioned many times so far the Italians are being dealt with already.

TheDaddy 05-04-2007 15:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 34268675)
Reina has kept 16 clean sheets in the league. 6 more than James. He has made a few blunders so even though he has more clean sheets he is below James.

Reina has a much better defence in front of him, it's also probable that Portsmouth do a lot more defending per game than Liverpool

gazzae 05-04-2007 15:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34268715)
Reina has a much better defence in front of him, it's also probable that Portsmouth do a lot more defending per game than Liverpool

He does and thats refected in the stats by James being above Reina.

pedantic 05-04-2007 15:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34268712)
No idea..

Thanks, that's just the answer I was looking for. :dunce:



Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34268712)
Yes indeed, why bother about the Italians when it was widely criticized in the British press and on here by other members of the Forum.. The point had already been made. Yet somehow, tables turned and Man U / Rangers fans start to cause trouble (even though it hasn't resulted in any deaths - yet) and everyone jumps to their defence.

Yes, its simply because im supporting my own agenda, thats all it is.

Simply because a point has already been raised, doesn't mean you can't join in. But as I've already stated, it wouldn't be in your best interests to do so. Stick to your own agenda. I look forward to your next post, the next time Rangers or Man u are chastised again in the media.

sherer 05-04-2007 15:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 34268717)
He does and thats refected in the stats by James being above Reina.


how can stats take into account blunders and having a better defence in front of you ?


Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja
Yet somehow, tables turned and Man U / Rangers fans start to cause trouble (even though it hasn't resulted in any deaths - yet) and everyone jumps to their defence.

so your criticising the Man U fans for being beaten up by the Police while they were already knocked out.. what should they have done instead ?

gazzae 05-04-2007 15:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34268719)
how can stats take into account blunders and having a better defence in front of you ?

Because its an index designed to record a players contribution. So basically they get points for playing well and lose points for playing poorly



Quote:

How is the Actim Index calculated?

Complex mathematical formulae were devised to calculate the value of each player's contribution, match by match. In simple terms, the Actim Index comprises six calculations:
Calculation 1 - Assesses a player's contribution to a winning team, based on points won by the team when he appeared.
Calculation 2 - Assesses a player's performance in each game, by allocating points for actions that positively contribute to a winning performance such as shots, tackles, clearances and saves. It also takes points away from players for negative actions such as yellow/red cards and shots off target.
Calculation 3 - Allocates points based on time on the pitch.
Calculation 4 - Allocates points for goal scorers.
Calculation 5 - Allocates points for assists.
Calculation 6 - Allocates points for clean sheets.
http://www.premierleague.com/fapl.ra...age=actimFAQ#1

Derek 05-04-2007 15:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34268681)
I notice how the Rangers fan edited my post to remove insults about Rangers fans.

Correct. Insulting other members of the forum, even as a group isn't allowed.
If you have a problem with the moderation take it up with another member of the team.

TheBlueRaja 05-04-2007 15:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34268719)
so your criticising the Man U fans for being beaten up by the Police while they were already knocked out.. what should they have done instead ?

Perhaps not charged at Roma fans or thrown rocks at them maybe... Just a guess.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pedantic (Post 34268718)
I look forward to your next post, the next time Rangers or Man u are chastised again in the media.

Maybe if next time somebody dies you might look at it in a different light.

pedantic 05-04-2007 16:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34268733)
Maybe if next time somebody dies you might look at it in a different light.

I always look at everything in an honest way, I don't let blinkers get in the way. whether there is a fatality, or not, I wait until all the evidence is in, regardless of which teams are involved.

TheBlueRaja 05-04-2007 17:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pedantic (Post 34268743)
I always look at everything in an honest way, I don't let blinkers get in the way. whether there is a fatality, or not, I wait until all the evidence is in, regardless of which teams are involved.

You know, I've received red reps for my stance on this, i've been called a troll and accused of saying these thing out of my haltered for Man U and Rangers.

But im not wrong, im right and unless something is done, someone is going to die or be very seriously injured.

IF away fans cannot behave - ban them - i don't care who they support, better yet - ban the teams involved and hit them where it hurts.

Take my thread on Rangers, since i wrote that, where again I was berated for my stance and fed the usual "it wasnt a Nazi salute / bigoted song" bull, the chairman of Rangers himself has come out and said that it must stop or they will ban fans at away games, not only from europe, but also possibly from away games in the SPL as well.

Saying that though words are one thing but actions are another.

Any why did that happen - not because he's suddenly seen some sense, but because other football fans have started to stand up and say No, its not right and because of this UEFA started to take notice and only then have Rangers start to back down and take action because it going to hurt them where it hurts, in the pocket.

I'll take my stance and stick with it thanks and wear my red reps with pride.

yesman 05-04-2007 19:16

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Scholes gets one match ban for red card

Quote:

Scholes started the quarter-final first leg match with two yellow cards against his name following bookings against Benfica and Celtic in the group stage and incurred an automatic ban after being booked in the 26th minute on Wednesday.
Although he was sent off eight minutes after that for a second bookable offence, his punishment remains a one-match ban and he will miss the return leg against Roma next Tuesday but be eligible to play if United reach the semi-finals.
http://football.guardian.co.uk/break...535319,00.html

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2007/04/20.gif

Billionaire buys stake in Arsenal

Quote:

ITV plc have announced they have unconditionally sold their 9.99% shareholding in Arsenal Holdings plc to American Stan Kroenke's KSE UK Inc. KSE began a business partnership with the Gunners in February through Major League Soccer club Colorado Rapids.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...al/6496951.stm

Mal 05-04-2007 22:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34268584)
I don't believe he's made any saves that Kuschzak or Foster wouldn't have saved but he has made several errors that they wouldn't.. just watch him on crosses and corners and he's no idea whether to come or not

sure he made some saves against Fulhum but when they hit the post where was he.. standing there watching. when they had a chance for a goal at the far post and Brown did enough to put the FUlham bloke off.. where was in .. in totally the wrong place

sure he won a lot in the past but that's the point that's in his past at an team other than Man U he would have let in loads of goals it's just with Rio and Vidic his errors aren't picked up as much until last night.. take the Reading goal he gave them if that game was 0-0 at the time we would have lost it

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34268636)
well i'd rather have Foster in goal than VDS.. put it this way of VDS had been at Watford he would be lower down the stats and would have let in more goals than Foster has

Cech is a bit more of an old style English keeper.. if the ball is in your hands or off the pitch then the other team can't score

Robinson kept the ball alive in one of Englands games with a punch and they scored from it

VDS kept the ball alive against Roma and Reading and both teams scored

I do think that VDS is the best goalie that we have had since Schmeicel left. Also, VDS is miles better than Kuszczak and I was so glad when VDS came back.

With Foster, I do think that we have a good prospect and he should be given his chance.

TheBlueRaja 05-04-2007 22:18

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Well, Well, looks like the spurs fans are at it now too... Disgrace.

pedantic 05-04-2007 23:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34269003)
Well, Well, looks like the spurs fans are at it now too... Disgrace.

I've yet to see any footage, or get any facts about the incidents, so will reserve my judgements.

No knee jerk reactions from me. ;)

TheDaddy 06-04-2007 19:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34269003)
Well, Well, looks like the spurs fans are at it now too... Disgrace.

Yes it is a disgrace

Spurs club secretary John Alexander said: "We know one disabled fan was hit with a baton with such force that it knocked him out of his wheelchair."

"Our initial reports suggest there was no fan-to-fan fighting at any stage of the proceedings," said a club statement.

"It had been a perfect day up to then but was spoilt by some over-zealous police officers, who started throwing their weight around, for want of a better term," said Daniel Wynne, of Tottenham Hotspur Supporters' Trust.


"After the penalty, a couple of fans got a bit excited about that but nothing more than shouting at the pitch. There was no violence. "Spurs fans weren't causing any trouble. The police went over and above acting as stewards."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/6531683.stm

And to cap it all the fool from UEFA comes out with

Uefa has launched investigations into both flashpoints, but communications director William Gaillard said possible sanctions for any of the clubs involved had not been discussed.

He should have said nothing until the investigation had been concluded because from what I've seen and read there was absolutely no justification for the police behaviour, if anything English fan's should boycott European games until they can control their police and if they dare say anything we can kick up a fuss about the state of their stadiums, if they are safe why the heck do we bother maintaining ours to the level we do, when it seems perfectly acceptable for fans to sit (if they are lucky) in a ramshackle, derelict, flea pit?

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There's more

In England, you get arrested or ejected for bad behaviour. In Italy, you get beaten up.

“I watched those pictures with horror because I seriously feared someone was going to get killed the way they were being hit with batons. Police looked like they were enjoying it.” David Platt

“It is just not right. Fans go there to enjoy a match and get beaten up by the very people who are supposed to be protecting them.” Former top-level ref Anders Frisk

Yet where were the police when this happened

Middlesbrough fans were not surprised by the violent scenes in Rome though. Three Boro supporters were stabbed in the build- up to their UEFA Cup tie at the Olympic Stadium in March last year.

If even half of this is true then it's a scandal, obviously it will be brushed under the carpet, nobody ever speaks up for the fans, that why stuff like this keeps happening

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2...150789,00.html

iadom 06-04-2007 19:42

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I suppose this is OK as well. :rolleyes:

http://tinyurl.com/35bpua

Shadow Demon UK 06-04-2007 21:53

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
I thought the scenes in Italy were disgraceful, in my opinion it's getting to the point where English teams should start to refuse to play against Italian teams in European football. This should eventually get Fifa to do something about the state of Italian football. Things like this never happen in England anymore so there's no excuse for why it should happen in Italy, Fifa need to do something otherwise it will continue and more fans will suffer. Fans shouldn't be going to football matches fearing for their lives, which seems to be the case when going abroad in European competitions over the past few years.

yesman 07-04-2007 11:41

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Chelsea v Tottenham
Stamford Bridge
Saturday, 7 April
Kick-off: 1245 BST

Come on Spurs, do us all a favour and beat Chelsea :D

Somehow I can't see that happening though.

cimt 07-04-2007 18:40

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Boro beat Watford 4 - 1. Come on Boro!

Russ 07-04-2007 19:15

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Let's hope Rio never forgets he's probably handed Chelsea the title this year :grind:

sherer 07-04-2007 19:16

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
VDS cost us another game.. at fault for the first goal as once again he flapped at a shot and didn't deal with it.. even after he did that you could see he started to come for the ball that was loose and then didn't know whether to get it or not

the one time he finally comes off his line Rio does a back pass to him and he isn't there.. once again he hasn't shouted at Rio what he is doing just like Rio has told him all season he needs to do

at his age he will only get worse and worse.. he's cost us against Roma and prob knocked us out of the European Cup and now he's nearly cost us the league

Shadow Demon UK 07-04-2007 19:27

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34269860)
VDS cost us another game.. at fault for the first goal as once again he flapped at a shot and didn't deal with it.. even after he did that you could see he started to come for the ball that was loose and then didn't know whether to get it or not

the one time he finally comes off his line Rio does a back pass to him and he isn't there.. once again he hasn't shouted at Rio what he is doing just like Rio has told him all season he needs to do

at his age he will only get worse and worse.. he's cost us against Roma and prob knocked us out of the European Cup and now he's nearly cost us the league

But he kept us in both games on numerous occasions with world class saves. Imo it was the defence for the first goal today that cost us just as much as the mistake from VDS. At least we are still 4 points clear ;) :)

punky 07-04-2007 19:32

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United fans ain't 'alf bloody melodramatic. Looking at the pictures and listening to them moan, you'd think they'd just been relegated.

In the last 10 years, you've won:

Premier League x 5
FA cup x 3
Champion's League x 1
League Cup x 1.

Including the League/FA cup/Champion's League treble.

You're still top of the league with a 3 point cushion. Get a grip for gawd's sake or support another team in the league outside the big 3 and see what its like going decades without winnng anything.

:rant:

Russ 07-04-2007 19:36

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
We expect the success to continue. We've been the most successful team in the Premiership and once you get used to that, anything less is unacceptable.

Downloads 07-04-2007 20:24

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
So could someone remind me... What happens if Chelsea beat Man U and they each won their remaining games? Is it goal difference? or the 2 results from their games? or...?

Shadow Demon UK 07-04-2007 20:25

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Goal difference, so it would be likely United will win it as the difference at the moment is very big.

Mal 07-04-2007 23:33

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34269860)
VDS cost us another game.. at fault for the first goal as once again he flapped at a shot and didn't deal with it.. even after he did that you could see he started to come for the ball that was loose and then didn't know whether to get it or not

the one time he finally comes off his line Rio does a back pass to him and he isn't there.. once again he hasn't shouted at Rio what he is doing just like Rio has told him all season he needs to do

at his age he will only get worse and worse.. he's cost us against Roma and prob knocked us out of the European Cup and now he's nearly cost us the league

While it was a loss, the Euro cup isn't a complete disaster ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34269863)
But he kept us in both games on numerous occasions with world class saves. Imo it was the defence for the first goal today that cost us just as much as the mistake from VDS. At least we are still 4 points clear ;) :)

VDS, in my opinion, was at fault for both goals. He hasn't learnt from his mistake on Roma, by not punching into touch and he did the exact same thing in the second half. It was lucky that there wasn't a Portsmouth player there.

Why is it that goalies can play a blinder one minute, then have a brainstorm the next? I suppose that they don't really have room to make mistakes.

Oh well...

---------- Post added at 23:33 ---------- Previous post was at 23:20 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin (Post 34269865)
United fans ain't 'alf bloody melodramatic. Looking at the pictures and listening to them moan, you'd think they'd just been relegated.

Melodramatic??? Which fans keep on going about how their team was "poisoned" out of a Champions League place? ;) :D

Now that's melodramatic... ;)

Shadow Demon UK 07-04-2007 23:36

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mal (Post 34269990)
VDS, in my opinion, was at fault for both goals. He hasn't learnt from his mistake on Roma, by not punching into touch and he did the exact same thing in the second half. It was lucky that there wasn't a Portsmouth player there.

Why is it that goalies can play a blinder one minute, then have a brainstorm the next? I suppose that they don't really have room to make mistakes.

Oh well...

For the first goal Richardson gave the ball away on the edge of the box which led to the shot which VDS failed to save, then Brown was so slow to react to the ball falling about one meter away from him he allowed the Portsmouth player to go past him and score. Yes, VDS made a mistake by pushing straight back but Portsmouth shouldn't have had the ball, but did because of Richardson, and then Brown should have cleared it. The second goal today was Ferdinands fault imo, you should always look before you pass, which he obviously didn't do.

Yes VDS has made a couple of big mistakes in the past two games but he has also made a couple of world class saves that have kept us in Europe and kept us in match today. I think he is by the far the best goalkeeper at the club at the moment and is the best we have had since Schmeichel.

Mal 07-04-2007 23:42

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34269998)
For the first goal Richardson gave the ball away on the edge of the box which led to the shot which VDS failed to save, then Brown was so slow to react to the ball falling about one meter away from him he allowed the Portsmouth player to go past him and score. Yes, VDS made a mistake by pushing straight back but Portsmouth shouldn't have had the ball, but did because of Richardson, and then Brown should have cleared it.

VDS should have punched it out. It wasn't like he didn't know what could happen, after what happened on Wednesday.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34269998)
The second goal today was Ferdinands fault imo, you should always look before you pass, which he obviously didn't do.

Again, this was VDS' fault, as Rio did what he had to do. If he hadn't, I don't think that VDS would have gotten to the ball before the Portsmouth player. Plus he should have given a shout to Rio.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK
Yes VDS has made a couple of big mistakes in the past two games but he has also made a couple of world class saves that have kept us in Europe and kept us in match today. I think he is by the far the best goalkeeper at the club at the moment and is the best we have had since Schmeichel.

He is a good player and the best that we have had since Schmeichel, but I'd just wish that he would learn.

Conceding a corner or a throw in, is better than conceding a goal...

Russ 07-04-2007 23:45

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mal (Post 34270003)
He is a good player and the best that we have had since Schmeichel, but I'd just wish that he would learn.

And the problem is we won't see another player like Schmeichel for a long time. Who won the premiership more than anyone else in the 90s? No, not United - it was Peter Scmeichel.

Mal 07-04-2007 23:49

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34270009)
And the problem is we won't see another player like Schmeichel for a long time. Who won the premiership more than anyone else in the 90s? No, not United - it was Peter Scmeichel.

I know, but we can hope ;)

I have not seen much of Foster at Watford, but I remember seeing playing for us during the pre-season friendlies and he did look good.

pedantic 08-04-2007 00:52

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
What a debacle !

Van der sar was definately at fault for the first, the second was just a comedy of errors. Ferdinand was looking straight at Van der sar when he passed the ball back, so maybe wasn't as quick thinking as he should have been. Why do defenders keep passing the ball straight at the goal, when making a back pass. It's like England Croatia all over again. Surely passing to either side of the goal would be a little more sensible. :shrug:

nffc 08-04-2007 01:58

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Sorry... I actually thought you backpassed it so if the keeper didn't get it, it would go out for a corner. Thought that was ingrained into footballers from the yr dot.

I rarely backpass because i'm a winger (so it's if I'm moved into defence) but I normally make sure it's not on target. If I can, Rio and Gary Neville can.

sherer 08-04-2007 11:00

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
sure VDS has made some good saves but what's the point in that if you are going to let in goals as well... he has never learnt and still punches and flaps.. the second goal shows he has no decision making skills any more and doesn't know whether to come or stay on in line.. most of the time he never comes off his line and in 2 years he's never once shouted to Rio what he is doing and what's around him

even on the first goal you can see after he flapped at it he started to go for the ball that was loose and then stopped as he didn't know what to do.. he did the same thing in the second half and earlier in the season he punched a ball to a Reading player so they could score

he's all over the place and will only get worse.. sure he won the title in Italy and the European Cup but that was in the past.. so has Stepney but that doesn't mean we should still be playing him

did we have to beat of AC, Bayern and Real to get him no.. no other top club wanted him.. he he had still been at Fulham everyone would compare him to Seaman in his final years where he played on too long and was past it

Shadow Demon UK 08-04-2007 17:11

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34270152)
sure VDS has made some good saves but what's the point in that if you are going to let in goals as well...

It's opening lines like that which makes reading the rest of your post seem pointless to me :rolleyes:

Just look at this and look at the goals conceded colum and you will see what your saying is rubbish- http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...le/default.stm

sherer 08-04-2007 18:24

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34270363)
It's opening lines like that which makes reading the rest of your post seem pointless to me :rolleyes:

Just look at this and look at the goals conceded colum and you will see what your saying is rubbish- http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...le/default.stm


well i think letting in goals because you flap and stuff and punch it all the time is a good reason to have a go at the keeper.. the goals conceded just means Rio and Vidic are doing a good job as soon as it gets beyond them VDS is a let down

yesman 08-04-2007 21:50

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34270423)
well i think letting in goals because you flap and stuff and punch it all the time is a good reason to have a go at the keeper.. the goals conceded just means Rio and Vidic are doing a good job as soon as it gets beyond them VDS is a let down

It could be worse, we might have had Massimo Taibi in goal still :disturbd:
Actually, I think Van Der Sar is one of the better keepers in the premiership at the moment.

************************************************** **********
Mourinho baits Man Utd over title :rolleyes:

Quote:


Mourinho said: "United are very lucky they don't have to play here next week. Can you imagine them here next weekend? "That's the game where they will slip up, against us, so they're very lucky."
What makes him so sure :)

West Ham, Arsenal, and even Bolton might do United some favours yet, let alone United beating Chelsea in their own back yard, but we will see...


Man Utd's remaining Premiership fixtures:
Tuesday, 17 April
(H) Sheff Utd
Saturday, 21 April
(H) Middlesbrough
Saturday, 28 April
(A) Everton
Saturday, 5 May
(A) Man City
Wednesday, 9 May
(A) Chelsea
Sunday, 13 May
(H) West Ham

Chelsea's remaining Premiership fixtures:
Wednesday, 18 April
(A) West Ham
Sunday, 22 April
(A) Newcastle
Saturday, 28 April
(H) Bolton
Sunday, 6 May
(A) Arsenal
Wednesday, 9 May
(H) Man Utd
Sunday, 13 May
(H) Everton


That last game for United against West ham has a ring of Déjàvu about it, only this time the fixture is at Old Trafford,

kingbuxton 08-04-2007 22:27

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Schmeichel can't be replaced, Oh wait, yes he can, Foster, it's a miracle.

We are still OK. Everton Away is the last big hurdle for me. We will take points off Chelsea, it will be a draw I think, that will negate that game. As long as we take points from Everton we will be OK. Chelsea have to go to Bolton yet and the Emirates, that is a tricky six points.

Arsenal for all their insane results this year are a force, for me the Prem does lie, Arsenal and UTD are the best sides in the Prem if you take it on football played, I think the Gunners are more than capable of turning Chelsea over. Lets hope.

VDS has been a revelation since he came, we should have gone for him not Barthez. I could care less about the ECL, it is a bigger cherry than the FA Cup, that sits on the Prem title, but a Cherry none the less. So I am miffed that he dropped Ole and Giggs for Richardson (He will be gone this summer) and Fletcher, with the Roma game in mind. Chelsea are in luck mode though, Watford was unreal, Spurs mauled them at times, what the hell was Robinson doing with Carvalhos goal.

It will be the injuries that cost us. Louis, Louis, Louis, Louis (Kaiser Chiefs).

yesman 09-04-2007 12:49

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
The Premiership Rumour Mill.......

Quote:

Jermain Defoe has been linked with a move to Manchester United if Tottenham move for Serbia striker Nikola Zigic.
Err, no thanks, but maybe Berbatov though

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...&ct=5&ito=1479

chamoan 09-04-2007 17:30

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Defoe is on his way i think, to who i dont know, but i pity the poor sods wherever he goes. He is not first choice at spurs and theres a good reason for it, no consistancy.

Just watched the Arsenal Newcastle game on premplus, what a borin pile of cack, Arsenal be lucky to finish 4th at this rate.

sherer 09-04-2007 17:37

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
well it seems Watford can do what we can't and beat pompey :-(

has anyone noticed when a team plays Man U as soon as we get the ball they are right close in on us putting us under pressure and work for the whole game

when they play Chelsea they sit back and let them play and have a lower work rate

chamoan 09-04-2007 17:42

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34271098)
well it seems Watford can do what we can't and beat pompey :-(

has anyone noticed when a team plays Man U as soon as we get the ball they are right close in on us putting us under pressure and work for the whole game

when they play Chelsea they sit back and let them play and have a lower work rate


Well i cant say i have noticed, and im no chavski fan, the chavs are just like the mancs in 1 sense, have some good players, and have a lot of luck, sometimes you dont need a great performance to win, just a little luck.

tick 09-04-2007 22:34

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
cambridge untd came from 2 down to win 4-2
shock to the team at the top

yesman 10-04-2007 00:21

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tick (Post 34271325)
cambridge untd came from 2 down to win 4-2
shock to the team at the top

No problem whatsoever. :D

Dagenham & Redbridge are punching above their weight even if they are champions :erm:

TheDaddy 10-04-2007 00:31

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yesman (Post 34270933)
The Premiership Rumour Mill.......
Err, no thanks, but maybe Berbatov though

Apparently you had done a deal to sign him at the start of the season, you couldn't afford him though until Van Nistelroy had been sold, still I am sure that won't stop you trying to tap him up this summer though

iadom 10-04-2007 18:24

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Not looking good, its kicking off already.:disturbd:

http://tinyurl.com/3drmb8

Quote, Supt Charlie Coxon, of Greater Manchester Police, said: "History shows the ultras don't travel abroad.
Well they won't go to unknown areas because they won't be able to creep up behind people and stab them in the @rse, typical cowards.

Jim.

yesman 10-04-2007 19:44

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Smith starts for United tonight, not sure who he is replacing yet.
Anyone know ?


Edit: Alan Smith starts ahead of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer

Russ 10-04-2007 20:06

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
He doesn't score often but when Carrick does, he knows how to put them away :D

Excellent build-up by the awesome Ronaldo.

---------- Post added at 20:06 ---------- Previous post was at 19:59 ----------

Rooney showing the world how a goal should be taken :D

iadom 10-04-2007 20:06

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
I am wetting myself here, 3-0 :D

Jim.

Russ 10-04-2007 20:14

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
I can see a Roma goal though.

yesman 10-04-2007 20:26

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34271929)
I can see a Roma goal though.

As long as it is not two though

Or three even

Russ 10-04-2007 20:33

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Did I say Roma? I meant Ronaldo :D

gazzae 10-04-2007 20:58

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yesman (Post 34271949)
As long as it is not two though

Or three even

Or Four!

---------- Post added at 20:58 ---------- Previous post was at 20:53 ----------

PS Would someone please tell Clive Tyldesley that to the majority of people watching the Utd match, a Chelsea equaliser is not "good news from Spain".

Shadow Demon UK 10-04-2007 21:08

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Make that 6-0. I think i'm dreaming :D

yesman 10-04-2007 21:42

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
7th Heaven :)

Carrick Superb !!!!

Even the time wasting Roma tactics in the last few minutes with all those substitutions didn't dampen the atmosphere :D

Shadow Demon UK 10-04-2007 21:42

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Finished 7-1. Just one word for that performance - Awesome

TheBlueRaja 10-04-2007 21:43

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Great result by Man U tonight, took Roma to the cleaners.

Game on now though - Chetski v Liverpool and only one of them will win the Champions league, my moneys on the Pool!

superbiatch 10-04-2007 21:45

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Liverpool v Man U final is looking more and more likely :)

---------- Post added at 21:45 ---------- Previous post was at 21:44 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34272047)
Game on now though - Chetski v Liverpool and only one of them will win the Champions league, my moneys on the Pool!

You know it makes sense ;)

yesman 10-04-2007 21:48

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja (Post 34272047)
Great result by Man U tonight, took Roma to the cleaners.

Game on now though - Chetski v Liverpool and only one of them will win the Champions league, my moneys on the Pool!

It's reassuring to note you are taking an interest :tu:

smicer07 10-04-2007 21:49

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Let us all pray for a Liverpool v Bayern final.

iadom 10-04-2007 22:00

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Well that certainly put the butt stabbing, cowardly Ultra's in their place. Roma didn't defend like an Italian team, perhaps the fact that they started with only 4 Italian players may have had something to do with it, or it may have been due to the fact that United started with 8 English, Irish, Scottish & Welsh players ;). Take note Costa Del Mersey. :D

PS. Even the Roma goal was a belter.

Jim.

sir_drinks_alot 11-04-2007 00:19

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Coleman sacked as Fulham manager

just in....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...am/6543541.stm

orangebird 11-04-2007 10:13

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sir_drinks_alot (Post 34272219)
Coleman sacked as Fulham manager

just in....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...am/6543541.stm

Gutted. A great manager with sweet FA as far as money and support from the board. How he managed to keep Fulham up for three years is beyond me anyway... :erm:

Also, (from a girly point of view) the only bit of manager eye candy in the league IMO. :drool:

superbiatch 11-04-2007 10:16

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by orangebird (Post 34272325)
Also, (from a girly point of view) the only bit of manager eye candy in the league IMO. :drool:

I'm feeling the need to 2nd that :D

orangebird 11-04-2007 10:28

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
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For the ladies (well, me and superbiatch anyway)..

sherer 11-04-2007 10:56

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
well as people know i'm not a fan of CDS but he still failed to deal with two shots and spilled them, both of them two easily could have fallen back to another Roma player and been a different result, and when we needed world class save he couldn't do it and just watched the ball go in the net

at another point the ball went right through the 6 yard box and he was just running along the goal line.. he doesn't command his 6 yard box like a top goalkeeper should

roll on next season when we have Foster back

Shadow Demon UK 11-04-2007 11:58

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34272353)
well as people know i'm not a fan of CDS but he still failed to deal with two shots and spilled them, both of them two easily could have fallen back to another Roma player and been a different result, and when we needed world class save he couldn't do it and just watched the ball go in the net

at another point the ball went right through the 6 yard box and he was just running along the goal line.. he doesn't command his 6 yard box like a top goalkeeper should

roll on next season when we have Foster back

I sometimes find it really hard to believe that you are actually a Man Utd fan :rofl:

TheDaddy 11-04-2007 21:11

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Looks like the tapping up has worked, how the dare moan about the behaviour of Real Madrid and Barcelona is beyond me

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/6546939.stm

Shadow Demon UK 11-04-2007 21:48

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Because they didn't tap him up, they declared an interst in signing the player which they have persued unlike Real Madrid and Barcelona.

TheDaddy 11-04-2007 21:57

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34272895)
Because they didn't tap him up, they declared an interst in signing the player which they have persued unlike Real Madrid and Barcelona.

Despite his club saying they didn't want to sell, pursuit should of ended there, much like Carrick last year, what are you saying its one rule for your team and another for everyone else seeing as unsettling a player seems to be a legitimate tactic of yours when it comes to buying players

Shadow Demon UK 11-04-2007 22:12

Re: Football Talk 2006/2007 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34272899)
Despite his club saying they didn't want to sell, pursuit should of ended there, much like Carrick last year, what are you saying its one rule for your team and another for everyone else seeing as unsettling a player seems to be a legitimate tactic of yours when it comes to buying players

But both Carrick and Hargreaves said they wanted to join United and Tottenham wanted to sell as they did in the end and it seems Bayern want to now aswell. Ronaldo hasn't said he wants to join Barcelona or Real Madrid anytime soon, yes he did in the summer, but now he doesn't want to leave and i think thats why United are annoyed by them unsettling the player.


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