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papa smurf 06-07-2026 14:07

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36219036)
Then why did you post a comparison? ;)

(btw, apologies for an error in my previous post when I said Nige got over £100k in freebies each year - it was actually over £180k in the last 8 months…)

fact finding is my new hobby,i like to present a balanced view, just remember facts are your friends, no need to apologise no one cares

Carth 06-07-2026 14:08

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36219037)
Fake news tut tut :nono:

Not sure about it being fake, but it's certainly a distraction from the unsettling news that after the SKY takeover of ITV . . . Ant & Dec and their rubbish will remain :shocked:

Hugh 06-07-2026 17:03

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36219037)
Fake news tut tut :nono:

Thank you, Donald Trump…

The £180k figure is from what he’s declared to the House of Commons Declaration of Interests, so unless you’re accusing Nige of lying, how is it "fake news"?

thenry 06-07-2026 17:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36219064)
Thank you, Donald Trump…

The £180k figure is from what he’s declared to the House of Commons Declaration of Interests, so unless you’re accusing Nige of lying, how is it "fake news"?

:cleader:

It was aimed at you :D

Hugh 06-07-2026 17:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36219067)
:cleader:

It was aimed at you :D

Oh?

So, just to check, are you stating that the facts I posted in that post are "fake"?

papa smurf 06-07-2026 17:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36219064)
Thank you, Donald Trump…

The £180k figure is from what he’s declared to the House of Commons Declaration of Interests, so unless you’re accusing Nige of lying, how is it "fake news"?

---------- Post added at 18:03 ---------- Previous post was at 18:00 ----------



It’s nice when you get a new hobby, but it must be challenging for you, having had very little acquaintance with facts previously…

i've relied on what you've posted in the past,so you've hit the nail on the head there

thenry 06-07-2026 17:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36219070)
Oh?

So, just to check, are you stating that the facts I posted in that post are "fake"?

You corrected your initial post which contained fake news. You should be ashamed of yourself :bsmack:

papa smurf 06-07-2026 17:57

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36219072)
You corrected your initial post which contained fake news. You should be ashamed of yourself :bsmack:

that's a got-ya moment

1andrew1 06-07-2026 18:06

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36219029)
just as another aside,here's a 9 page breakdown of two tier's freebies

https://news.sky.com/story/sir-keir-...ny-mp-13217287

Worth pointing out that the table in the article is well out of date. Slacker Starmer has well and truly been overtaken by Farage who must be on at least £8m to date v Starmer's pitiful £107k.


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Nigel Farage under scrutiny over aide who wrote book on money-laundering

Cottrell, a 32-year-old aristocrat nicknamed “Posh George”, is regarded as one of Farage’s closest aides.

Earlier this year, he published a book entitled How to Launder Money: A Guide for Law Enforcement, Prosecutors and Policymakers, co-written with Lawrence Burke Files, a self-described financial crime investigator.

The book could now become ammunition for Reform’s political opponents.

In one chapter entitled “The Art of the Bribe”, Cottrell and Files set out how politicians can be bought. They argue that bribes, if in the form of small gifts rather than cash, can be passed off as “a mistake of overexuberance in friendship”.

They add: “Long-term relationships keep the bought person in hand while you’re making money and the cohort is making money . . . Money from corruption is a bit like fiscal heroin; one fix and you know you need more.”

Cottrell and Files provide several examples of non-cash gifts including “paying some of the target’s expenses”, adding “many expenses can be paid that would pass unnoticed and untraceable”.

Cottrell and Files have said their book is aimed at educating law enforcement and the public about criminal techniques.

The book provides guidance on how to act if bribery is found out, stating: “lawyer up immediately”.

“At every step and every turn, at every possible point, counter and attack the accuser from all sides. Use the courts, mass media, personal media and hire people to write and place stories.”
https://www.ft.com/content/7a0fc2a1-...syn-25a6b1a6=1

Carth 06-07-2026 18:11

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Keep digging Andrew, you may come across something really nasty . . like Farage pulled girls pigtails at infant school, or maybe even when he was caught smoking in the bike sheds . . truly shocking stuff that will obviously be pounced on by the media :D

papa smurf 06-07-2026 18:19

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36219076)
Keep digging Andrew, you may come across something really nasty . . like Farage pulled girls pigtails at infant school, or maybe even when he was caught smoking in the bike sheds . . truly shocking stuff that will obviously be pounced on by the media :D

you have to give him 1/2 point for trying yawn:zzz:

1andrew1 06-07-2026 18:23

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36219076)
Keep digging Andrew, you may come across something really nasty . . like Farage pulled girls pigtails at infant school, or maybe even when he was caught smoking in the bike sheds . . truly shocking stuff that will obviously be pounced on by the media :D

Just sharing the news mate. As I've said before, I'd prefer to see Farage cleared.

Hugh 06-07-2026 20:39

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36219072)
You corrected your initial post which contained fake news. You should be ashamed of yourself :bsmack:

Actually, I realised I was being rude, and deleted it - ymmv…

jfman 06-07-2026 20:49

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Arguing with journalists in airports. A sign of someone with nothing to hide.

1andrew1 06-07-2026 20:58

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36219080)
Arguing with journalists in airports. A sign of someone with nothing to hide.

#DonationGate
https://news.sky.com/liveblog-webvie...arage-12593360

Carth 06-07-2026 21:47

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I hope everyone keeps kicking him, after all it worked for turning people away from voting to leave the EU didn't it . . oh wait, no, people still voted for it. ;)

jfman 06-07-2026 22:02

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I do wonder who Farage has upset for the kid gloves to come off in the UK press.

They’ve all been more than happy to throw him softballs for the best part of 25 years. Giving him an outsized platform relative to his share of the vote.

How many properties he owns, where he lives on someone else’s generosity, and whether his properties were purchased outright or have mortgages on them doesn’t exactly require Roger Cook levels of investigative journalism.

Dingbat 06-07-2026 22:13

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36219084)
I do wonder who Farage has upset for the kid gloves to come off in the UK press.

Perhaps it’s his evasiveness when questioned, and his inability to justify how and why he got these donations?

Or is it because Badenoch seems to be getting a foothold in the polls?

Or maybe it’s because Burnham is coming over the horizon?

jfman 06-07-2026 22:32

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Originally Posted by Dingbat (Post 36219085)
Perhaps it’s his evasiveness when questioned, and his inability to justify how and why he got these donations?

This type of two footed challenge on Farage could have went in at any time, prior to his election, prior to Reform becoming a thing. Probably even prior to Brexit. Dark money has never been far from Farage’s political adventures.

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Or is it because Badenoch seems to be getting a foothold in the polls?

Or maybe it’s because Burnham is coming over the horizon?
The media have always done a good job at having the Conservatives in their pocket, and Labour with one notable exception. Having Farage shouting from the sidelines as their useful idiot can keep the big two on their toes.

He’s definitely upset someone.

Presumably these types of questions over finances may be a reason for a private bank to withdraw their commercial services. Yet the UK press obediently went out to bat for Farage.

Hugh 06-07-2026 22:46

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36219082)


Surely #daddygate?

https://metro.co.uk/2026/07/06/life-...addy-29062474/

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Multi-millionaire Reform backer George Cottrell’s contributions to the party have triggered calls for a parliamentary standards inquiry into Nigel Farage.

But who is the maverick former public school boy who reportedly refers to the Reform leader as ‘daddy’?…

… Cottrell was head of fundraising for UKIP in 2015, at the age of 22, and was at Farage’s side as the Brexit referendum result was announced the following year.

The source added that Cottrell sees Nigel Farage as a ‘father figure’ and even refers to him as ‘daddy’. He describes him as a wealthy, blue-blooded ‘chancer’ splashing money on gambling tables worldwide.

They said: ‘George is a big admirer of Nigel. They both come from a financial background, they like a drink and a smoke, and are on the same page politically.

‘He calls Nigel “Daddy”; he considers him his role model in life. That’s the dynamic of the relationship.’

1andrew1 06-07-2026 23:17

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36219086)
This type of two footed challenge on Farage could have went in at any time, prior to his election, prior to Reform becoming a thing. Probably even prior to Brexit. Dark money has never been far from Farage’s political adventures.

The media have always done a good job at having the Conservatives in their pocket, and Labour with one notable exception. Having Farage shouting from the sidelines as their useful idiot can keep the big two on their toes.

He’s definitely upset someone.

Presumably these types of questions over finances may be a reason for a private bank to withdraw their commercial services. Yet the UK press obediently went out to bat for Farage.

As you say the media's always been a bit two-tier with Farage giving him an easy ride and opportunities a plenty to plead his case. It's an interesting question as to why this may have changed.

Maybe the sheer size of the £5m gift and Farage batting accountability for registering it away, belatedly frightened them into action?

Sephiroth 06-07-2026 23:21

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36219077)
you have to give him 1/2 point for trying yawn:zzz:

... and a carrot.

Carth 06-07-2026 23:43

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36219084)
I do wonder who Farage has upset for the kid gloves to come off in the UK press.

I don't think he's upset anyone lately, although plenty are getting frothy about stuff due to the over zealous media . . . who have possibly been the recipients of a quiet 'word in their ear' from certain parties and organisations that want pressure brought to bear.

Funny how this stuff happens when there's a danger of an apple cart being upset . . . much like the mysterious appearance of a 'leaked' list of BNP members years ago ;)

papa smurf 07-07-2026 05:55

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with all this mud slinging it makes me wonder if Burnham is planning a snap general election so he can implement his communist agenda

damien c 07-07-2026 06:54

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36219096)
with all this mud slinging it makes me wonder if Burnham is planning a snap general election so he can implement his communist agenda

I don't think he is stupid enough to do that, he knows Labour won't get voted back in and he is power mad, especially since he like Starmer can do what they want once he is in.

Hugh 07-07-2026 08:12

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36219092)
I don't think he's upset anyone lately, although plenty are getting frothy about stuff due to the over zealous media . . . who have possibly been the recipients of a quiet 'word in their ear' from certain parties and organisations that want pressure brought to bear.

Funny how this stuff happens when there's a danger of an apple cart being upset . . . much like the mysterious appearance of a 'leaked' list of BNP members years ago ;)

I understand you believe the Establishment is after Farage, but what are your thoughts on the £5 million donation and the various freebies from Cottrell etc.?

1andrew1 07-07-2026 08:29

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36219096)
with all this mud slinging it makes me wonder if Burnham is planning a snap general election so he can implement his communist agenda

Have you been to Manchester recently? It's more Canary Wharf than Kremlin! :D

---------- Post added at 09:29 ---------- Previous post was at 09:15 ----------

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36219100)
I understand you believe the Establishment is after Farage, but what are your thoughts on the £5 million donation and the various freebies from Cottrell etc.?

Farage fans tend to think rules should not apply to him, in the same way that Farage's mate Trump thinks that rules should not apply to Balogun. ;)

papa smurf 07-07-2026 09:10

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36219101)
Have you been to Manchester recently? It's more Canary Wharf than Kremlin! :D

---------- Post added at 09:29 ---------- Previous post was at 09:15 ----------


Farage fans tend to think rules should not apply to him, in the same way that Farage's mate Trump thinks that rules should not apply to Balogun. ;)


i was thinking more about Beijing given the amount of Chinese money and companies involved in Manchester

Carth 07-07-2026 09:14

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36219100)
I understand you believe the Establishment is after Farage, but what are your thoughts on the £5 million donation and the various freebies from Cottrell etc.?

I personally don't give two hoots about it.

Is it my money? No
Has it cost me money? No
Will it reduce my bills? No
Does it change the weather? No
Will it improve my local public transport? No
Is it helping combat Global Warming? No
Can I now jump the queue for a doctors appointment? No

Is it affecting me personally in any way at all? No . . apart from laughing at all the people having apoplectic fits about it because *gasp shock horror* yet another politician is being investigated for some (alleged) naughty things :D

papa smurf 07-07-2026 09:20

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36219107)
I personally don't give two hoots about it.

Is it my money? No
Has it cost me money? No
Will it reduce my bills? No
Does it change the weather? No
Will it improve my local public transport? No
Is it helping combat Global Warming? No
Can I now jump the queue for a doctors appointment? No

Is it affecting me personally in any way at all? No . . apart from laughing at all the people having apoplectic fits about it because *gasp shock horror* yet another politician is being investigated for some (alleged) naughty things :D

no one cares as long as he's not getting a free box at arsenal or Taylor swift concert tickets

Carth 07-07-2026 09:31

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The Media care . . it's a wonderful and marvelous opportunity for countless clickbait articles :D

papa smurf 07-07-2026 09:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36219109)
The Media care . . it's a wonderful and marvelous opportunity for countless clickbait articles :D

it certainly attracts a certain type of person

jfman 07-07-2026 09:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36219092)
I don't think he's upset anyone lately, although plenty are getting frothy about stuff due to the over zealous media . . . who have possibly been the recipients of a quiet 'word in their ear' from certain parties and organisations that want pressure brought to bear.

Funny how this stuff happens when there's a danger of an apple cart being upset . . . much like the mysterious appearance of a 'leaked' list of BNP members years ago ;)

I don’t think the kind of upset or people I have in mind happens overtly in public.

It’s like Mandelson. Everyone has known he was dodgy since the first time he was sacked, or the second time, or since he was a visible friend of Epstein and never offered sufficient answers. However for so long as you are useful the British press are quite happy to be complicit in deceiving the public on your behalf. But when they turn….

Dingbat 07-07-2026 10:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36219096)
with all this mud slinging it makes me wonder if Burnham is planning a snap general election so he can implement his communist agenda

Isn’t it interesting that as soon as Trump starts prattling on about communism after Mamdani’s election win in NYC, it suddenly starts becoming a buzzword again and being bandied-about by other people?

papa smurf 07-07-2026 11:18

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Originally Posted by Dingbat (Post 36219113)
Isn’t it interesting that as soon as Trump starts prattling on about communism after Mamdani’s election win in NYC, it suddenly starts becoming a buzzword again and being bandied-about by other people?

i don't follow the rantings of donald trump but i found this
https://www.thecityreporter.nyc/2025...house-meeting/



any hoo nigel farage to make a statement about his future at 2 pm

https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...arage-12593360

damien c 07-07-2026 11:38

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Oh dear Labour want to be careful about throwing stones in glass houses!

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/lab...-oil-and-arms/

Paywall removed
https://web.archive.org/web/20260521...-oil-and-arms/

https://www.removepaywall.com/search...n-oil-and-arms


And then there is the whole 8 companies paying a total of £500k between them and being awarded over £115m in government contracts!

https://autonomy.work/portfolio/give...of-government/

Although that happens with all parties, I think it is something that needs dealing with because, that again like I have said is "Buying access" and "Buying MP's" who are supposed to be doing the job for the country and their constituents not their back pocket!

1andrew1 07-07-2026 12:04

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36219111)
I don’t think the kind of upset or people I have in mind happens overtly in public.

It’s like Mandelson. Everyone has known he was dodgy since the first time he was sacked, or the second time, or since he was a visible friend of Epstein and never offered sufficient answers. However for so long as you are useful the British press are quite happy to be complicit in deceiving the public on your behalf. But when they turn….

As the media is so compliant towards Farage, maybe he's asked them to raise these donations so he can step down as leader and blame the media for making his life difficult?

Dingbat 07-07-2026 12:24

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36219114)
i don't follow the rantings of donald trump but i found this
https://www.thecityreporter.nyc/2025...house-meeting/



any hoo nigel farage to make a statement about his future at 2 pm

https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...arage-12593360

Perhaps King Donald has offered him the elite position of Groom of the Stool at Mar a Lago?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groom_of_the_Stool

papa smurf 07-07-2026 12:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dingbat (Post 36219117)
Perhaps King Donald has offered him the elite position of Groom of the Stool at Mar a Lago?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groom_of_the_Stool

i don't think anyone in their right mind would want to get close to trumps arse

1andrew1 07-07-2026 12:48

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England through against Mexico and now Farage might be resigning...Chrimbo coming early! :D
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Davey 'hopes' Farage is leaving politics
Sir Ed Davey, the Liberal Democrat, has made his position clear.

He replied to Farage's post about his "future in public life", saying that "I hope it's that you haven't got one"
https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...arage-12593360

Hugh 07-07-2026 13:28

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From Nige's video statement


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Farage says that the £5m gift from Christopher Harborne at the centre of one investigation will fund the security he believes he needs for the rest of his life. "I am the most physically and verbally attacked public figure or politician of modern times," he says.
Jo Cox and David Amess may disagree...

jfman 07-07-2026 13:35

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Comedy distraction from Burnham’s first few weeks.

Dingbat 07-07-2026 13:45

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36219122)
Comedy distraction from Burnham’s first few weeks.

Especially if Restore stand in the by-election in Clacton, split the right-wing vote, and someone else wins the seat.

Carth 07-07-2026 14:14

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Gosh, all these resigning's, PM's thrown under busses, party members too scared to stand for election . . . Is there anybody left that has the integrity and morals required to Govern this country?

Hugh 07-07-2026 14:15

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This is a very astute move by Nige.

If he wins the by-election, he’s got the "people’s mandate".

If he loses, he can blame "The Establishment"and carry on gathering funds without any Parliamentary Commission oversight…

btw, as part of his video statement, he criticises the media for "haranguing**" his family - can anyone* find any recent examples of this?

*I can’t, unless he means the chap who calls him "daddy"?

** To harangue someone means to subject them to a long, loud, and aggressive speech or lecture. It is typically a forceful or scolding attempt to criticize someone, express strong disapproval, or coerce them into agreeing with your point of view

1andrew1 07-07-2026 14:23

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36219125)
This is a very astute move by Nige.

If he wins the by-election, he’s got the "people’s mandate"

He might have the mandate of the people of Clacton but he could find he has to resign again if the investigations go against him.
https://www.parliament.uk/mps-lords-...-commissioner/

papa smurf 07-07-2026 14:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36219124)
Gosh, all these resigning's, PM's thrown under busses, party members too scared to stand for election . . . Is there anybody left that has the integrity and morals required to Govern this country?

i'd put myself forward but i have to admit i'm a bit bent and buy everything with cash :)

thenry 07-07-2026 14:36

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Famous last words, I'll be back

On a serious note. I hope he's gone for good.

papa smurf 07-07-2026 14:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36219128)
Famous last words, I'll be back

On a serious note. I hope he's gone for good.

arnie always comes back

Carth 07-07-2026 15:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36219127)
i'd put myself forward but i have to admit i'm a bit bent and buy everything with cash :)

Well yes, on our meager pension we often have to do a 'nudge nudge wink' deal for cash, which would definitely leave us open to the risk of extensive scrutiny if we went into politics . . or any other position where it's already rife ;)

Hugh 07-07-2026 15:45

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Amusingly, "Posh George" wrote a book called How to Launder Money: A Guide for Law Enforcement, Prosecutors and Policymakers, co-written with Lawrence Burke Files

https://archive.ph/5yse8

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In one chapter entitled “The Art of the Bribe”, Cottrell and Files set out how politicians can be bought. They argue that bribes, if in the form of small gifts rather than cash, can be passed off as “a mistake of overexuberance in friendship”.

They add: “Long-term relationships keep the bought person in hand while you’re making money and the cohort is making money . . . Money from corruption is a bit like fiscal heroin; one fix and you know you need more.”

Cottrell and Files provide several examples of non-cash gifts including “[p]aying some of the target’s expenses”, adding “many expenses can be paid that would pass unnoticed and untraceable”.

Cottrell and Files have said their book is aimed at educating law enforcement and the public about criminal techniques.

The book provides guidance on how to act if bribery is found out, stating: “lawyer up immediately”.

“At every step and every turn, at every possible point, counter and attack the accuser from all sides. Use the courts, mass media, personal media and hire people to write and place stories.”
Cottrell’s lawyers said that the book was written to warn about bribery and the facilitation of corruption, but pretty sure telling people how to carry out bribery and the facilitation of corruption isn't covered under the dictionary definition of"warn"... ;)

Carth 07-07-2026 16:35

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Farage has resigned Hugh, the crusade is over, no need to 'research' any more ;)

papa smurf 07-07-2026 17:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36219142)
Farage has resigned Hugh, the crusade is over, no need to 'research' any more ;)

what will he do with the shovel

1andrew1 07-07-2026 17:34

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Ed Davey called for the major parties not to contest the by-election and both Labour and the Conservatives have agreed not to. Has Farage's plan backfired or is this the establishment ganging up on him?

papa smurf 07-07-2026 17:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36219151)
Ed Davey called for the major parties not to contest the by-election and both Labour and the Conservatives have agreed not to. Has Farage's plan backfired or is this the establishment ganging up on him?

it's him v bin face, what will the people's choice be

davy knows he'll lose his candidates deposit so does kemi

thenry 07-07-2026 17:40

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:LOL: fraud.

papa smurf 07-07-2026 17:42

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:LOL:

cabbage

jfman 07-07-2026 18:06

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Farage v Binface.

Maggy 07-07-2026 18:08

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Well watching the news has become a pleasure today.��

Hugh 07-07-2026 18:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36219142)
Farage has resigned Hugh, the crusade is over, no need to 'research' any more ;)

If he wins the by-election, the Parliamentary Inquiry resumes… ;)

And even if he doesn’t, it still might…

https://committees.parliament.uk/pub...67945/default/

Quote:

Suspension of investigations

39. The Commissioner has the discretion to suspend investigations at any time. This
may, for example, happen if the Member suffers ill health or a bereavement during the
investigation, or where a related police investigation is taking place.

40. If Parliament is dissolved or the Member otherwise ceases to be a Member while an
investigation is in progress, the Commissioner will suspend their investigation until the
Member is re-elected. If the Member is not returned to Parliament, the Commissioner
will decide if it is appropriate and proportionate to resume their investigation.

mrmistoffelees 07-07-2026 18:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36219161)
If he wins the by-election, the Parliamentary Inquiry resumes… ;)

And even if he doesn’t, it still might…

https://committees.parliament.uk/pub...67945/default/

Highly unlikely he’s going to lose as: Labour, Conservatives, Lib Dems and Restore Britain say they will not stand

Love the fact he’s trying to turn it into people vs establishment when he’s a part of the establishment

papa smurf 07-07-2026 18:45

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36219165)
Highly unlikely he’s going to lose as: Labour, Conservatives, Lib Dems and Restore Britain say they will not stand

Love the fact he’s trying to turn it into people vs establishment when he’s a part of the establishment

working class hero

Damien 07-07-2026 18:47

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Probably the smartest thing to do is not to stand, means there is no real news in the result and stops it becoming a story all summer.

papa smurf 07-07-2026 19:20

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36219167)
Probably the smartest thing to do is not to stand, means there is no real news in the result and stops it becoming a story all summer.

the story will be too scared to stand /frit/chicken /no balls/spineless gits...

mrmistoffelees 07-07-2026 19:29

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36219166)
working class hero

Of course he is, and if you actually believe that I’ve got a bag of beans you’ll really be interested in buying

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36219167)
Probably the smartest thing to do is not to stand, means there is no real news in the result and stops it becoming a story all summer.

Yup, he wins is elected and due process continues

papa smurf 07-07-2026 19:49

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36219172)
Of course he is, and if you actually believe that I’ve got a bag of beans you’ll really be interested in buying

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Yup, he wins is elected and due process continues

it's not what i believe it's what his supporters believe

thenry 07-07-2026 19:52

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Smurfs eating baked beans tonight. Fart the night away.

Dingbat 07-07-2026 19:56

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36219167)
Probably the smartest thing to do is not to stand, means there is no real news in the result and stops it becoming a story all summer.

Seeing as Farage only got 46% of the vote at the GE, it would be hilarious if Count Binface stood against him and got the votes of the 54% who didn’t vote RefUK.

peanut 07-07-2026 20:22

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Farage’s £5m gift reported to UK crime agency over money laundering concerns

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ering-concerns

1andrew1 07-07-2026 20:49

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36219152)
it's him v bin face, what will the people's choice be

davy knows he'll lose his candidates deposit so does kemi

This is comedy gold! Pretending to be anti-establishment may work with his flock, but will look daft when his only competition is a guy wearing a dustbin!

jem 07-07-2026 21:05

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36219181)
This is comedy gold! Pretending to be anti-establishment may work with his flock, but will look daft when his only competition is a guy wearing a dustbin!

I suspect that the Greens will field a candidate, which could make it interesting.

Damien 07-07-2026 21:15

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Greens would get nowhere in Clacton.

Chris 07-07-2026 21:26

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Binface for MP. It’s time.

Dingbat 07-07-2026 22:21

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Perhaps someone should ask the DOGE teams that Reform brought in to the councils they took over if they could investigate the money wasted on unnecessary by-elections?

Hugh 07-07-2026 22:24

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36219188)
Binface for MP. It’s time.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...2&d=1783463042

thenry 07-07-2026 22:26

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Penis face. :woot:

Carth 07-07-2026 23:24

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Isn't UK Politics brilliantly funny :D

Most of the names we constantly read about are pretty much 'deadwood' when it comes down to the actual running of the country. If things don't go the way they like they're either off and running to sit on the other side of the circus, or hiding underneath the seats at the back.

Let's be honest here, a Parrot nailed to a perch could win the Clacton by-election and it would make absolutely zero difference to anything.

Hugh 07-07-2026 23:39

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36219196)
Isn't UK Politics brilliantly funny :D

Most of the names we constantly read about are pretty much 'deadwood' when it comes down to the actual running of the country. If things don't go the way they like they're either off and running to sit on the other side of the circus, or hiding underneath the seats at the back.

Let's be honest here, a Parrot nailed to a perch could win the Clacton by-election and it would make absolutely zero difference to anything.

good to see you still supporting Farage…

Carth 07-07-2026 23:44

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36219200)
good to see you still supporting Farage…

He's resigned Hugh, I've already told you once :PP:

1andrew1 08-07-2026 09:33

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36219200)
good to see you still supporting Farage…

Consistency is a good thing in these tubulent times :tu:

thenry 08-07-2026 10:07

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Is Farage to give another statement today?

1andrew1 08-07-2026 10:16

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Badenoch gets to the heart of the matter here - why does Farage think he is an exception to the country's rules?

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We all have to make declarations. I have to make declarations day in, day out for people who are giving donations and gifts or whatever so that people can see where the money is coming from.

Why does Nigel Farage want an exception? Why does he think that he is better or more important than the rest of us and he doesn't have to follow the rules? We all need to follow the rules. So yes, if he did receive benefits and gifts in kind, then he should declare them.

Why does he not want to do that? He keeps saying that he's a man of the people. No man of the people, as far as I know, gets £5m cash as a gift for no reason whatsoever. And the reason why these stories and these scandals keep pursuing him is because he won't do what everybody else does, is come out and answer the questions properly. telling people that it's none of their business means that the stories will continue, there will continue to be questions asked. He should just come out and be straight with people.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other...id=socialshare

papa smurf 08-07-2026 10:20

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36219203)
He's resigned Hugh, I've already told you once :PP:

try using crayons mate, you might get through :)

Dingbat 08-07-2026 10:24

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36219203)
He's resigned Hugh, I've already told you once :PP:

Not until he’s allowed to by parliament. Those are the rules.

1andrew1 08-07-2026 10:54

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Originally Posted by Dingbat (Post 36219233)
Not until he’s allowed to by parliament. Those are the rules.

Rules are for the litle people, not special people like Our Nige!

Mr K 08-07-2026 10:57

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Let him resign. Count Binface is a shoe in. He's right we need more bins.More of a policy than Nige has.

Hugh 08-07-2026 11:23

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36219231)
try using crayons mate, you might get through :)

Thought you’d eaten them all…

1andrew1 08-07-2026 12:31

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Would be interesting if Nigel does change his mind. He's been well and truly boxed in on this - looks silly v Bin Face if he proceeds with the by-election, looks like a bottler if he doesn't!

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“This wasn’t the ‘dead cat’ he thought it was,” they [Reform figure] said, referring to claims this is an effort by Farage to distract attention away from his gifts and towards a tight by-election contest, adding there would be more media scrutiny to come.

“In an attempt to reaffirm his position in British politics, Nigel is going to have a by-election against a bin,” they said. “I think he [Farage] will can it before the by-election happens.”
https://www.ft.com/content/13ea13b7-...syn-25a6b1a6=1

Carth 08-07-2026 12:53

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I hope that all the silliness of UK politics at the moment, may have those who don't care too much about politics deciding to vote for all the completely barmy candidates at the next general election . . give the government what it seems they want . . clowns and performing seals :D

Dingbat 08-07-2026 13:48

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Top trolling from the Chancellor, in accepting Farage’s resignation as an MP.

"If he wants to spend the summer arguing with a bin, I won't stop him"

thenry 08-07-2026 14:24

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Anyone checked in on rubber lips Zia Yusuf? Losing thee plot, oh I wish they did.

papa smurf 08-07-2026 14:30

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Originally Posted by Dingbat (Post 36219244)
Top trolling from the Chancellor, in accepting Farage’s resignation as an MP.

"If he wants to spend the summer arguing with a bin, I won't stop him"

from what i hear she's heading for the bin

Dingbat 08-07-2026 14:49

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36219248)
Anyone checked in on rubber lips Zia Yusuf? Losing thee plot, oh I wish they did.

The “shadow Home Secretary”? Probably looking for a way out before Jenrick makes his takeover bid.

1701-e 08-07-2026 16:11

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Looks like it's going to be a two horse race between a comedy candidate dressed in a ridiculous outfit, who doesn't really care about the constituents and is only in it for the attention.

Versus Count Binface.

1andrew1 08-07-2026 16:27

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Any news on Farage’s claims of his phone being hacked by Russia?

Are the police and security services investigating?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj9pdy1x2plo

thenry 08-07-2026 16:34

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He was singing the praises of Russia in the European parliament, actually he repeated Putin then claimed it his own. The irony :rofl:

1andrew1 09-07-2026 08:18

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From that left-win rag, the Daily Mail. Difference between this and other polls seems to be the inclusion of Restore Britain.
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More trouble for Farage as megapoll finds Reform might only come third at general election

Nigel Farage's troubles deepened today as a megapoll found Reform is only on track to come third at a general election. The latest research by Electoral Calculus has given an early hint at a 'Burnham bounce', with Labour now seen as remaining the largest party. It could get 217 seats if a national contest was held immediately, ahead of the Tories on 151 and Reform on 127.

The survey - carried out using the 'gold standard' MRP method and taking account of tactical voting - hints at a stark turnaround, with Mr Farage's party previously having enjoyed a significant advantage. Restore Britain has been included in the research for the first time, and appears to be sucking up some of Reform's support - although Rupert Lowe's outfit is only seen as securing one MP. The seat-by-seat estimates - produced on behalf of communications agency PLMR and based on Find Out Now surveys - would leave UK politics in turmoil, with no one party anywhere near a stable majority.

The most likely outcome would be a 'rainbow coalition' of Labour, the Lib Dems and Greens. The latter could make a massive jump from four MPs at the last election to 30, according to the projections. There would be intense haggling over policies, with inevitable fears smaller partners would be able to insist on pet projects - such as another Scottish referendum or a proportional representation voting system.

In terms of support, Labour and Reform were found to be level on 22 per cent, with the Conservatives close behind on 20 per cent. The Lib Dems were on 11 per cent, the Greens 10 per cent and Restore Britain 7 per cent. Fieldwork was carried out between June 23 and June 30 - just after Keir Starmer's resignation announcement - and covered 5,545 adults in Britain. Reform's backing was down from the 31 per cent detected in January. Other polls have shown Reform still with a comfortable lead, although it has seemed to be narrowing.

Martin Baxter, founder of Electoral Calculus, said: 'Our figures show that if a general election were held now, it would result in a hung parliament where even a three-way coalition of Labour, the Liberal Democrats, and the Greens would fall short of a majority. 'For the first time, Restore Britain has been included in our polling, and they are cutting directly into Reform's vote share. That leaves Nigel Farage fighting on two fronts, with the Conservatives also recovering ground.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other...73e04d88&ei=16

Mr K 09-07-2026 08:31

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Hes split the right wing into several parties , suicide under our electoral system. A socialist future for all . Probably for the best. Well done Nige, he isnt all bad after all ;)

Hugh 09-07-2026 20:27

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Police investigate Reform donations by mother of fraudster who bankrolled Farage

https://www.thetimes.com/article/7c3...4501d12bc50023

Before any of the usual suspects say "bUt He’S rEsIgNeD!!, the Police investigation started in February 2025, after a referral from that well-known leftie pinko tree-hugging organisation, the Electoral Commission…

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The Metropolitan Police have launched a criminal investigation into at least £500,000 of donations made to Reform UK by the mother of the convicted fraudster who secretly bankrolled Nigel Farage.

Fiona Cottrell, 67, an aristocrat who was said to have dated Prince Charles in the 1970s and whose son is George *Cottrell, 32, is at the centre of the inquiry in which Scotland Yard has spent more than a year examining potential offences relating to “the evasion of restrictions on donations”.

This relates to concealing or disguising donations derived from an “impermissible” donor to a political party, or the use of “false” information about a donation including the amount or the identity of the donor.

Detectives have interviewed two people under caution…

… Scotland Yard said: “An investigation was launched in February 2025 after a referral was made to the Metropolitan Police by the Electoral Commission relating to donations made to a political party ahead of the 2024 UK general election.

“Detectives from the Met’s special inquiry team are investigating alleged offences under section 61 of the Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Act 2000. Early investigative advice has been sought from the Crown Prosecution Service and two people have so far been interviewed under caution. No arrests have been made.

“An offence under this section is not one that the Electoral Commission can investigate and, as such, it is a matter for the police.”

The Electoral Commission said: “The Metropolitan Police Service have issued a statement about an ongoing police investigation. We have no further comment.”

Carth 10-07-2026 01:25

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"bUt He’S rEsIgNeD!!
Why does your keyboard/keypad keep going funny?


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