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Pierre 02-06-2025 21:38

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36197533)
It's called many things but negotiation isn't one of them.

Well other countries keep coming back.

1andrew1 03-06-2025 15:43

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36197543)
Well other countries keep coming back.

So Taco Trump says along with all those 200 beautiful trade deals he signed!

In reality, he now faces a dilemma:
To carry out his threat to reimpose tariffs which will severely disrupt the markets, or
To extend the deadline and give further credence to his Taco nickname.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/othe...al/ar-AA1FZHgk

Itshim 03-06-2025 17:05

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36197513)
Well I dont think thats a bad thing, we should be prepared to defend ourselves.
I dont think it has much to do with tariffs or negotiations though.

So in this case it worked;)

Paul 03-06-2025 17:25

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36197570)
So in this case it worked;)

What worked ?

Itshim 03-06-2025 20:10

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36197572)
What worked ?

Struggling to think what I could have said to make it clearer but here I go .
Increasing defence spending, if he keeps his word , which is very questable. If Trump hadn't i doubt the slimey one would have bothered. :rolleyes:

1andrew1 04-06-2025 00:15

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UK escapes 50% tariff on iron and steel. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg713y73plro.amp

Paul 04-06-2025 03:40

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36197581)
Increasing defence spending, if he keeps his word , which is very questable. If Trump hadn't i doubt the slimey one would have bothered. :rolleyes:

I presume you are referring to the current defence review ?
It was part of the Labour Manifesto, and once they had won the election, it was announced in July 2024, long before Trump became President.
It was not in response to his utterings, but a response to the threats of Russia, China, Iran and North Korea.

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Musks days as a staunch Trump supporter seem to be waning somewhat.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0j76djzgpvo

Quote:

Musk calls Trump's tax bill a 'disgusting abomination'

Itshim 04-06-2025 17:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36197589)
I presume you are referring to the current defence review ?
It was part of the Labour Manifesto, and once they had won the election, it was announced in July 2024, long before Trump became President.
It was not in response to his utterings, but a response to the threats of Russia, China, Iran and North Korea.

---------- Post added at 03:40 ---------- Previous post was at 01:55 ----------

Musks days as a staunch Trump supporter seem to be waning somewhat.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0j76djzgpvo

It's because Uk are not able rely on the USA How ever you clearly know better. I'd start leaning Russian if the UK is relying on labour.

Paul 04-06-2025 18:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36197608)
How ever you clearly know better.

Clearly.

Itshim 04-06-2025 18:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36197609)
Clearly.

So sad:D

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36197588)
UK escapes 50% tariff on iron and steel. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg713y73plro.amp

Yet BBC radio 4 got their report wrong . Stating that the UK will not have to pay the increased tariff. Do I need to explain this to some members :confused:

Chris 04-06-2025 19:08

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Meanwhile he’s no longer pretending not to be Putin’s sock-puppet.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2r108l785o

1andrew1 04-06-2025 19:16

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim;3619761o0
Yet BBC radio 4 got their report wrong . Stating that the UK will not have to pay the increased tariff. Do I need to explain this to some members :confused:

You just need to provide a linked source like anyone else on this forum.

If you've got information that corrects a reliable source, then you will start to win over members by providing a link to it. Stating that a source is wrong without any evidence cannot not make your case for you..

Hugh 04-06-2025 19:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36197617)
Meanwhile he’s no longer pretending not to be Putin’s sock-puppet.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2r108l785o

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...9&d=1749061125

Itshim 04-06-2025 20:27

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36197618)
You just need to provide a linked source like anyone else on this forum.

If you've got information that corrects a reliable source, then you will start to win over members by providing a link to it. Stating that a source is wrong without any evidence cannot not make your case for you..

Try world at one today on BBC radio 4 . Fact I really didn't think that it needed explaining, silly me. The UK does not repeat, not pay the tariff the company importing does . Yes goods will cost more but the buyer not the seller pays.unless they reduce the price but still isn't paying :dozey:

Hugh 05-06-2025 18:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36197627)
Try world at one today on BBC radio 4 . Fact I really didn't think that it needed explaining, silly me. The UK does not repeat, not pay the tariff the company importing does . Yes goods will cost more but the buyer not the seller pays.unless they reduce the price but still isn't paying :dozey:

Trump disagrees… ;)

Anyhoo

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...0&d=1749144250

papa smurf 05-06-2025 18:35

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36197650)

Trump has helped Elon a lot, how would his company have lost half it's value without the orange retard in power.

thenry 05-06-2025 18:49

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
I don't think Elon cares. He puts free speech before finances.

papa smurf 05-06-2025 18:58

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36197654)
I don't think Elon cares. He puts free speech before finances.

until he didn't

1andrew1 05-06-2025 19:10

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36197654)
I don't think Elon cares. He puts free speech before finances.

Elon cares about free money, not free speech. So lots of lovely contracts for his space business and no one examining those contracts too sharply. What's not to like?

What's not to like is that the free money becomes outweighed by a decline in Starlink sales to Canada, Tesla sales in Democrat states and both in Europe threatening his time at the helm of these companies.

So he's seen it's time to put some distance between him and Taco and lay off promoting AfD and other overseas right-wing parties whose values don't really align with Tesla's and get back to business.

Hugh 05-06-2025 19:53

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Quote:

After a flurry of posts from Elon Musk, US President Donald Trump has now taken to social media as well.

He wrote two posts on his own platform, Truth Social:

"Elon was "wearing thin,” I asked him to leave, I took away his EV mandate that forced everyone to buy electric cars that nobody else wanted (that he knew for months I was going to do!), and he just went CRAZY!" Trump writes.

He then says that the "easiest way to save money" in his signature tax bill is to "terminate Elon’s Governmental Subsidies and Contracts".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cyvm...4090ccab5#post

Paul 05-06-2025 19:56

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So they have fallen out with each other, pretty much as many predicted they would.

thenry 05-06-2025 20:10

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It was well known of Trumps intentions, drill drill drill baby etc. this falling out hasn't just happened. And Elon can't be in two places at once.

Mr K 05-06-2025 20:50

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Quote:

Elon Musk has dropped a bombshell accusation, claiming his former close friend Donald Trump appears in the Epstein files.

The claim was part of a spectacular war of words between the world’s most powerful men, with the president claiming the Tesla boss has “Trump derangement syndrome”, and Mr Musk insisting Mr Trump only won the election because of him.

Mr Musk said in a post on X: “Time to drop the really big bomb: @realDonaldTrump is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public. Have a nice day, DJT!”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/polit...epstein-files/

Don't usually eat popcorn. Think I'll give it a go ...

mrmistoffelees 05-06-2025 21:00

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Marvellous , it’s like celebrity death match

Anyone for popcorn ?

Damien 05-06-2025 21:28

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
This is great fun. Entirely predictable as well.

Hugh 05-06-2025 21:30

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https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...2&d=1749155375

Hugh 05-06-2025 21:36

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Schitt’s getting real…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1749155752

Pretty sure this will be taken calmly by Trump…

Hugh 05-06-2025 21:41

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Science Fiction author (Marko Kloos) I follow on Bluesky just posted this - probably true…

Quote:

If I were a young tech bro on Musk's payroll who just spent the last five months ripping the plumbing out of the walls of federal agencies on his behalf, I'd get really nervous right about now.

1andrew1 05-06-2025 22:01

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36197677)
Science Fiction author (Marko Kloos) I follow on Bluesky just posted this - probably true…

I doubt Trump has their details.

papa smurf 06-06-2025 07:40

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36197682)
I doubt Trump has their details.

i can't wait to hear Heidi Hitler spin this at the shyte house briefing

Chris 06-06-2025 07:54

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
KKKaroline’s no fun. She doesn’t spin anything, she just gets up and reads outright fiction. No finesse at all.

Pierre 06-06-2025 08:19

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36197675)

50p on the micro penis for me please.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36197677)
Science Fiction author (Marko Kloos) I follow on Bluesky just posted this - probably true…

Blue sky! I bet you were on Mastodon too

1andrew1 06-06-2025 08:34

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36197695)
i can't wait to hear Heidi Hitler spin this at the shyte house briefing

She's always good value on this type of thing.

Hugh 06-06-2025 08:36

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36197697)
KKKaroline’s no fun. She doesn’t spin anything, she just gets up and reads outright fiction. No finesse at all.

Also known as ‘TACO Belle"…

joglynne 06-06-2025 08:46

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This is the first time I can remember members having fun together on a political thread. I don't normally visit threads like this as I hate seeing my guys not playing nicely together but as this has so much comedic value I have laid in a supply of popcorn and sparkling Vimto for my daily visits. :D

1andrew1 06-06-2025 09:19

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36197704)
Also known as ‘TACO Belle"…

A funny and clever name! :D

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36197675)

A good list but I was expecting to see one for his enforced repatriation to South Africa.

Maggy 06-06-2025 09:30

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joglynne (Post 36197705)
This is the first time I can remember members having fun together on a political thread. I don't normally visit threads like this as I hate seeing my guys not playing nicely together but as this has so much comedic value I have laid in a supply of popcorn and sparkling Vimto for my daily visits. :D

:tu:

Chris 06-06-2025 10:18

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Some top-drawer trolling from the site owner.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1749201492

tweetiepooh 06-06-2025 11:24

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Any one else remember "The President's Brain is Missing?"

Anonymouse 06-06-2025 12:41

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
This presupposes he had one in the first place, which is somewhat in doubt. :p:

thenry 07-06-2025 17:36

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Elon Musk's social media post claiming Donald Trump is in files relating to the disgraced paedophile financier Jeffrey Epstein has been removed.

https://news.sky.com/story/elon-musk...rom-x-13380462
Very grown up the pair of them :td:

Sephiroth 07-06-2025 17:49

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
I suspect that Musk is well up Shit Creek right now - watching his business fall away in front of him. I don't think he has "the cards". He may need to crawl at Trump's feet.

Dude111 08-06-2025 05:05

I heard Donnys stock is going down........

RichardCoulter 08-06-2025 12:57

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36197676)
Schitt’s getting real…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1749155752

Pretty sure this will be taken calmly by Trump…

BBC news said (yesterday I think) that's this has since been removed. Given Musks belief in absolute free speech come what may, I wonder if Trump has threatened Musk with retaliation of some sort??

1andrew1 12-06-2025 11:46

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Like his predecessor, is age catching up with Trump?
Quote:

People are speculating that President Donald Trump is using a “hidden leg brace” following his stumble on the steps of Air Force One.

The unsubstantiated claims are doing the rounds on social media, as users have zoomed in on images of the president’s legs taken after the fall, which occurred Sunday as Trump was walking up the stairs to board the plane.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...df824c5f&ei=19

Chris 12-06-2025 12:55

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Do you really need to ask? Listen to him speak off the cuff for 60 seconds and you can tell how addled he is.

RichardCoulter 12-06-2025 13:46

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Musk has now said that he thinks that what he said about Trump 'went too far'. Interesting to note that he doesn't withdraw or say that his remarks were untrue.

Perhaps he's been leaned on or has come to realise that attacking Trump was not in his best personal interests??

Stephen 12-06-2025 14:00

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Yes but which particular thing is he(Musk) sorry about and went too far?

Damien 15-06-2025 08:16

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Trump's parade doesn't seem to have been that popular.

papa smurf 15-06-2025 08:56

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36198057)
Trump's parade doesn't seem to have been that popular.

it needed more happy birthday balloons and jello and custard

Hugh 07-07-2025 15:23

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
https://abcnews.go.com/US/doj-fbi-re...y?id=123526125

Quote:

A review ordered by President Donald Trump-appointed leadership of the Justice Department and the FBI found no evidence that notorious deceased financier Jeffrey Epstein kept a "client list" of associates whom he blackmailed or conspired with to victimize dozens of women, according to a new memo reviewed by ABC News.

And JFK shot himself…

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2025/07/1.gifv

TheDaddy 08-07-2025 09:19

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36199002)

Didn't Pam Bondi say she had the list on her desk?

1andrew1 09-07-2025 22:12

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Looks like Trump's coming to Scotland. Wonder if he'll travel in a Tesla for any of his time here? If someone could make that happen it would be amusing to see his face!
Quote:

Plans being drawn up for potential Donald Trump UK visit in 'coming weeks'

Sources have suggested to Sky News the US president is likely to touch down in Scotland to visit his golf courses at the end of July or beginning of August.

Police Scotland confirmed to Sky News it was preparing for a "potential visit... later this month".

Security and policing insiders have said meetings are ongoing this week with the possibility of up to 5,000 officers being required to work 12-hour shifts.

It is understood a final date is yet to be confirmed due to the president's fluid diary, but his son, Eric Trump, previously said his father would attende the official opening of a new golf course in Aberdeenshire this summer.
https://news.sky.com/story/plans-bei...weeks-13394533

Russ 09-07-2025 22:53

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
People of Scotland, we are relying on your aim with regards to bags of shit.

Brown goes well with Orange apparently.

daveeb 10-07-2025 11:20

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36199109)
Looks like Trump's coming to Scotland. Wonder if he'll travel in a Tesla for any of his time here? If someone could make that happen it would be amusing to see his face!

https://news.sky.com/story/plans-bei...weeks-13394533

Looking forward to the orange fraud teeing off in front of the cameras at the first hole. With his bigly impressive 3 handicap it should be a cracker straight down the middle. Just hope he doesn't follow through again :Yikes:

tweetiepooh 10-07-2025 11:37

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Best response is to just ignore him. Imagine all that security for a couple of grannies waving the American flag. How would his ego respond to no-one there at all, no support, no protest?

thenry 14-07-2025 19:44

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
:LOL: Trump didn't bother leaving the stage in between handing over the trophy and the winners Chelsea lifting the trophy haha. America does do things differently. The owner gets presented the NFL superbowl trophy. Big deal :shrug:

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/14/s...helsea-psg-spt

1andrew1 16-07-2025 00:11

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Some in MAGA are unhappy
Quote:

Trump faces backlash from MAGA base over Epstein files and arms for Ukraine

US President Donald Trump has spent years encouraging dark or harmful conspiracy theories, and that strategy may now come back to bite him.

First the Epstein files, now arms for Ukraine: US President Donald Trump is facing growing backlash from his MAGA base — including conspiracy theorists online and a key ally in Congress — over some of his administration's most high-profile recent decisions.

Far-right influencers voiced outrage last week when the US Justice Department suddenly walked back the notion that the sex offender Jeffrey Epstein kept a "client list" of elites who participated in the late financier's trafficking of underage girls.

Trump quickly defended US Attorney General Pam Bondi — who suggested in February that such a document was on her desk, only to later clarify that she was referring to the overall case file — and criticised a reporter for daring to ask about the documents.

Some MAGA supporters online called the US president "out of touch" and demanded transparency over the government's files on Epstein, a call backed by conservative influencers and even Republican congresswoman and key Trump ally Marjorie Taylor Greene.

"America deserves the truth about Jeffrey Epstein and the rich powerful elites in his circle," the isolationist congresswoman from Georgia wrote on X on Monday.

Separately on Monday, Greene also criticised Trump's decision to provide arms for Ukraine.

In an interview with the New York Times, Greene said the move was a betrayal of the America First agenda that Trump campaigned on.

"It’s not just Ukraine, it’s all foreign wars in general and a lot of foreign aid," she told the newspaper.
https://www.euronews.com/2025/07/15/...ms-for-ukraine

Chris 16-07-2025 10:06

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Mad Marge is always unhappy.

thenry 16-07-2025 10:47

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Shouldn't they be unhappy with capitol hill.. again. Trump would withdraw support if he could but capitol hill rules NATO gets support.

Hugh 01-08-2025 21:29

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https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...4&d=1754079846

So long, and thanks for all the fish…

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2025/08/1.jpg

Pierre 02-08-2025 14:45

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36200243)

Good, just Trump speaking Russian.

1andrew1 02-08-2025 22:56

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36200279)
Good, just Trump speaking Russian.

If you're using 'Russian' as a euphemism then I agree with you. 😀

Hugh 04-08-2025 12:44

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Apparently, the Drug Companies will be paying Americans to use their pharmaceutical products.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucele...-down-by-1500/

Quote:

“This is something that nobody else can do. We’re gonna get the drug prices down. Not 30 or 40% which would be great, not 50 or 60, no. We’re gonna get ‘em down 1,000%, 600%, 500%, 1,500%.”

He went on to say, “We will have reduced drug prices by 1,000% by 1,100, 1,200, 1,300, 1,400, 700, 600; not 30 or 40 or 50% but numbers the likes of which you’ve never even dreamed of before,”

Anonymouse 05-09-2025 15:57

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Now he's saying UK online speech laws are 'not a good thing'. He may be right, but what's it got to do with him? Does he think he's about to make us into the 53rd state (after Canada and Greenland)?

Moron. Still, he won't last much longer. What is he, 82?

Paul 05-09-2025 17:23

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He was asked a question, and gave an answer, I dont really see the problem.

Quote:

The remarks were in response to a reporter's question during a White House dinner hosting prominent tech leaders.

Chris 17-09-2025 12:39

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So … they’re processing around the grounds of Windsor Castle instead of through the streets of London to Buckingham Palace because the great British public can’t be trusted not to line up with banners telling him what we think of him … but they’ve told him that doing everything at Windsor is extra special and more exclusive than Buckingham palace because of how bigly important his is …. Haven’t they … ?

Sephiroth 17-09-2025 12:47

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All very impressive whatever your opinion is of Trump. - and it well surpasses what they put on for Macron.

Chris 17-09-2025 12:50

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I suspect M. Macron understands the necessity of blowing smoke up Trump’s narcissistic, diapered ass. Getting him to behave like a statesman is like persuading a toddler to eat broccoli.

thenry 17-09-2025 12:53

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Fascinating how some people's lives are. Well done them :angel:

Sephiroth 17-09-2025 12:54

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It might be interesting to see who would be where in a "bad egg" table - for whatever reason.

In the hat would be loads of political names including, in no particular order: Macron, Starmer, Trump, Modi, Xi, Netanyahu, Putin, Zelensky, Boris, Truss, Corbyn, Abbott, Erdogan, Von der Leyen, various sheikhs, ......


Carth 17-09-2025 13:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36202846)
So … they’re processing around the grounds of Windsor Castle instead of through the streets of London to Buckingham Palace because the great British public can’t be trusted not to line up with banners telling him what we think of him … but they’ve told him that doing everything at Windsor is extra special and more exclusive than Buckingham palace because of how bigly important his is …. Haven’t they … ?

Just like golf mate, sometimes you hit the fairway, sometimes it's the bunker :D

1andrew1 17-09-2025 18:12

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Royal Family doing the jobs today for their country that no one else would willingly do!

thenry 17-09-2025 18:21

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Speak for yourself id welcome Trumpet and mylingerie :D

1andrew1 17-09-2025 18:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36202872)
Speak for yourself id welcome Trumpet and mylingerie :D

Not just those two, there's also Sir Keir!

Mr K 17-09-2025 18:42

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
I think Trump's a berk ( just saying), and its embarassing how we're toadying. It's a mark of how a small and vulnerable Country we've become.

thenry 17-09-2025 18:43

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36202874)
Not just those two, there's also Sir Keir!

He's an Arsenal fan. I'd ask for an invite upstairs :D

Mr K 17-09-2025 20:30

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36202876)
He's an Arsenal fan. I'd ask for an invite upstairs :D

You'd have a chance of that if you supported your home town ;)

1andrew1 17-09-2025 21:22

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
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https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...6&d=1758140492

Paul 17-09-2025 22:45

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
:confused:

1andrew1 17-09-2025 22:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36202890)
:confused:

Channel Four promoting its special Trump untruths schedule tonight in the style of a Trump post. :D

denphone 18-09-2025 12:46

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36202875)
I think Trump's a berk ( just saying), and its embarassing how we're toadying. It's a mark of how a small and vulnerable Country we've become.

He was never fit to be president the first time, let alone a second time and now this convicted felon in the so called land of the free is now trying to suppress free speech and opposition in his fascist authoritarian presidency.

Carth 18-09-2025 13:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36202899)
He was never fit to be president the first time, let alone a second time and now this convicted felon in the so called land of the free is now trying to suppress free speech and opposition in his fascist authoritarian presidency.

and yet people are still 'on his side' - not saying that's right or wrong, but if enough people vote for you you're in.

probably similar to Farage over here

Sephiroth 18-09-2025 14:01

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Thing is, Trump IS President and we have to deal sensibly with him in a manner that best suits our needs. When he's gone, we'll have to deal with another awkward sod.

Chris 18-09-2025 16:37

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36202907)
Thing is, Trump IS President and we have to deal sensibly with him in a manner that best suits our needs. When he's gone, we'll have to deal with another awkward sod.

Very much this.

Diplomacy has to be pragmatic. We shouldn’t have to massage his fragile ego just to get him to do what any normally-adjusted individual in the highest public office should instinctively understand, but we don’t act according to what we feel should be, we act according to the way things actually are.

Trump is a lot of very hard work for comparatively little gain (because he’s only onside until the next person gets their chance to whisper in his ear), but he is what he is.

thenry 18-09-2025 18:03

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I'm sad :( come back Trump :LOL:

Damien 18-09-2025 19:15

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36202912)
Very much this.

Diplomacy has to be pragmatic. We shouldn’t have to massage his fragile ego just to get him to do what any normally-adjusted individual in the highest public office should instinctively understand, but we don’t act according to what we feel should be, we act according to the way things actually are.

Trump is a lot of very hard work for comparatively little gain (because he’s only onside until the next person gets their chance to whisper in his ear), but he is what he is.

The Royal Family and putting on the full state visit treatment does seem to stick with him. He also inexplicitly seems to get on well with Starmer; he had several chances to make it difficult for him today and avoided it.

Mr K 18-09-2025 21:10

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36202918)
The Royal Family and putting on the full state visit treatment does seem to stick with him. He also inexplicitly seems to get on well with Starmer; he had several chances to make it difficult for him today and avoided it.

I wouldn't read too much into anything Trump says or does. He can only think 5 minutes ahead . At the State Banquet he was mostly thinking:-
  • 'what's for pudding ?'
  • 'where's the toilet? '
  • 'wonder which royal I can bonk? '

Anonymouse 19-09-2025 02:28

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Now the orange git is advising Starmer to 'call out the military'. Again, who does he think he is?

Harriet Jones had it right:

BLAKE: I'm getting demands from Washington, ma'am. The President's insisting that he take control of the situation.
HARRIET: You can tell the President, and please use these exact words, he's not my boss, and he's certainly not turning this into a war.

Quite right too. We didn't let Hitler, Stalin or Mussolini tell us what to do. Despite what he apparently thinks, this is our country. Nor should Starmer let him, useless nonentity that Starmer is.

(Not that I think Farage would be any better - he's clueless in a different way.)

Sephiroth 19-09-2025 08:34

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Whatever you may think of Trump as a person, from my perspective, he's not wrong.

In this forum, you'll get the likes of Andrew saying that we must abide by the law. So the law needs adjusting to permit the use of military assets to prevent the boats from crossing into our waters.

I've said before that this would create an international incident with France - but that's long overdue in this case. What's happening at taxpayer expense is beyond unacceptable; also, there will be terrorist plants among those landing in the UK.

Then from Anonymouse:

Quote:

BLAKE: I'm getting demands from Washington, ma'am. The President's insisting that he take control of the situation.
HARRIET: You can tell the President, and please use these exact words, he's not my boss, and he's certainly not turning this into a war.
That's not the situation here. Trump is not trying to take control. He is simply suggesting that Starmer should use all available means (including the military) to stop the influx of boat migrants into the UK.

Hugh 19-09-2025 09:02

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36202930)
Whatever you may think of Trump as a person, from my perspective, he's not wrong.

In this forum, you'll get the likes of Andrew saying that we must abide by the law. So the law needs adjusting to permit the use of military assets to prevent the boats from crossing into our waters.

I've said before that this would create an international incident with France - but that's long overdue in this case. What's happening at taxpayer expense is beyond unacceptable; also, there will be terrorist plants among those landing in the UK.

Then from Anonymouse:



That's not the situation here. Trump is not trying to take control. He is simply suggesting that Starmer should use all available means (including the military) to stop the influx of boat migrants into the UK.

How exactly would you expect "military assets" to prevent the boats crossing?

Would you expect them to shoot at the boats?

Sephiroth 19-09-2025 09:12

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36202935)
How exactly would you expect "military assets" to prevent the boats crossing?

Would you expect them to shoot at the boats?


Don’t be silly.

peanut 19-09-2025 09:16

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36202935)
How exactly would you expect "military assets" to prevent the boats crossing?

Would you expect them to shoot at the boats?

I'm sure there'd be a lot of people that would actually say 'yes'... :erm:

Detainment would be the most logical, but how / where??

But nothing will change till we either come out of the ECHR or amend it to suit our needs to be able to do more.

Hugh 19-09-2025 10:32

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It’s not just the EHCR - there’s also the Geneva Convention, the Law of the Sea, and HM Armed Forces Rules of Engagement.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36202936)


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Originally Posted by Hugh View Post
How exactly would you expect "military assets" to prevent the boats crossing?

Would you expect them to shoot at the boats?
Don’t be silly.

How, then?

thenry 19-09-2025 10:36

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I'd guess shepherd them in and out the country :shrug:

peanut 19-09-2025 10:47

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I have no idea but I'd start with acknowledging their reasoning to why they want to come here in the first place. Then dismantle this ideal. Detainment, camps etc with the threat of sending them back. No benefits, no housing, no hotels, no money, nothing, just the basics in a camp if they are caught and if they don't quality to stay then they're shipped back. There's got to be a message that says if you come here you'll get nothing. Make Calais look like the better option basically. But all that sounds so easy doesn't it.....

More enforcements... Employ an illegal you get shut down. I'm sure there's a lot more they can do.

thenry 19-09-2025 10:56

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:LOL: do you believe this country will offend allies in that way? It all sounds very self absorbing

Sephiroth 19-09-2025 11:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36202942)
It’s not just the EHCR - there’s also the Geneva Convention, the Law of the Sea, and HM Armed Forces Rules of Engagement.

---------- Post added at 10:32 ---------- Previous post was at 10:31 ----------



How, then?

Use your imagination, please - along the lines of THenry’s suggestion. OK?

Pierre 19-09-2025 11:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36202935)
Would you expect them to shoot at the boats?

It's a Radical Idea. I like it.

1andrew1 19-09-2025 11:30

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36202942)
How, then?

We need to invade France, get them to quit boules for cricket and wine for warm beer. And start speaking English.

That way, the refugees/economic migrants won't have a need to make it across the Channel.

That's my interpretation of what Seph's on about. ;)


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