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Chris 22-11-2022 22:41
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Oh he’s definitely not left. Keeping quiet, perhaps, but never far away. ;)

Mad Max 27-11-2022 16:20
Re: Disney+
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36140554)
Watch out for fireworks at Disney + Mr Inger has two years to turn it around my guess is ESPN and Hulu ( which they may have to buy out from Comcast) are in the firing line , along with price rises ,sign up for the longest deal you can get , if you want to save money over the next year or so. The start of the death of the streamers :erm: going to Walt Disney world for a seasonal break with family. :D
Nah, maybe one or two will go but they won't all die off.

heavyside 28-11-2022 07:51
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For anyone interested the ITVX website is up and running. It gives a good idea of the content.

https://www.itv.com/

ozsat 30-11-2022 10:45
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The full ITVX experience, including all Premium content, has already been launched on the following platforms:

• Android TV
• Chromecast
• Huawei
• NOW Smart Sticks and Boxes*
• Roku Streaming Players*
• Samsung Smart TVs (2016 and above)
• Sky Glass and Sky Stream puck
• Web Browsers
• Xbox One/S/X and Xbox Series X/S

* minimum firmware v11.0.2

This list was last updated on 29/11/22 at 11:20.

SonicMaster 30-11-2022 18:56
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An interesting quote in an article about the BBC being able to expand their archive content on iPlayer:

'However, Virgin Media O2 was concerned about the impact the increased amount of older content on the iPlayer would have on the UKTV pay channels. Virgin Media O2 claimed the UKTV pay channels were a ‘fundamental part’ of its pay TV offer. Ofcom disagreed. It noted that all seven UKTV channels only account for 5% of total viewing time on Virgin Media devices. The three Pay TV channels provided by UKTV – Alibi, Eden and Gold – make up 2% of viewing on Virgin Media devices. (BARB 28-day consolidated, 4+ individuals. H1 2022.)

https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/ofcom-gree...hive-expansion

Legendkiller2k 01-12-2022 02:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36141016)
An interesting quote in an article about the BBC being able to expand their archive content on iPlayer:

'However, Virgin Media O2 was concerned about the impact the increased amount of older content on the iPlayer would have on the UKTV pay channels. Virgin Media O2 claimed the UKTV pay channels were a ‘fundamental part’ of its pay TV offer. Ofcom disagreed. It noted that all seven UKTV channels only account for 5% of total viewing time on Virgin Media devices. The three Pay TV channels provided by UKTV – Alibi, Eden and Gold – make up 2% of viewing on Virgin Media devices. (BARB 28-day consolidated, 4+ individuals. H1 2022.)

https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/ofcom-gree...hive-expansion
If VM spent less time crying to Ofcom constantly and more time in sorting out their customer service then they might actually have a half decent product.

Legendkiller2k 01-12-2022 11:05
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Discovery+ now free to BT sport customers (BT, Plusnet and EE only). https://www.cordbusters.co.uk/discov...t-subscribers/

TimeLord2018 01-12-2022 12:26
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I don't know if the BT Sport channels will be added to Discovery+ ? , the longer term plan is to have it all in 1 app whatever that's called.

Quote:
“Having news, sports and entertainment coming together in one package is incredibly compelling for consumers and … we think Warner Bros. Discovery is in pole position to take advantage of that.”

While HBO Max has yet to launch in the U.K. due to a lengthy output deal between HBO and Comcast-backed pay-TV operator Sky that expires only in 2025, Perrette underlined that a single product will “ultimately house the Discovery product and HBO Max and sports — the whole package in one.”

The offering will be tiered in some markets, he said, “given the premium nature of sports in this portfolio,” but all content will sit under the umbrella of one streaming product and offering.
https://variety.com/2022/sports/glob...jv-1235265074/

---------- Post added at 12:26 ---------- Previous post was at 11:25 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36141028)
Discovery+ now free to BT sport customers (BT, Plusnet and EE only). https://www.cordbusters.co.uk/discov...t-subscribers/
Post on BT forum says It's a staff trail , someone must of leaked the web link.

Quote:
I can tell you that it will be early 2023 that you'll get access to the D+ app - employee trials start tomorrow to test the process for application.
Discussions are still ongoing regarding the BT Sport channels being added to it, but I believe it likely to still be a few months away - much later than originally expected.
https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Sport.../page/2#M34145

Legendkiller2k 02-12-2022 13:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36141030)
I don't know if the BT Sport channels will be added to Discovery+ ? , the longer term plan is to have it all in 1 app whatever that's called.


https://variety.com/2022/sports/glob...jv-1235265074/

---------- Post added at 12:26 ---------- Previous post was at 11:25 ----------

 Post on BT forum says It's a staff trail , someone must of leaked the web link.


https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Sport.../page/2#M34145
Someone has breached a NDA then and could find themselves in very hot water if they get found out.

jfman 02-12-2022 20:18
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Just discovered a quirky “joy” of watching 2 live games on ITV Hub. You get to watch two adverts every time you switch between games.

You don’t get that in the linear broadcasts. :D

denphone 03-12-2022 07:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36141081)
Just discovered a quirky “joy” of watching 2 live games on ITV Hub. You get to watch two adverts every time you switch between games.

You don’t get that in the linear broadcasts. :D
That is something one would want to avoid.;)

SnoopZ 03-12-2022 10:31
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I remember 6 months ago I started watching something on normal ITV and wanted to continue it in another location via ITVHub, I found it impossible to skip ahead to try and rejoin where I left off without it throwing a long advert at me after every skip, does it still do this?

And they wonder why people look for alternative methods to watch stuff! Cough..... TeaTV........Cough

Chris 03-12-2022 11:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36141102)
I remember 6 months ago I started watching something on normal ITV and wanted to continue it in another location via ITVHub, I found it impossible to skip ahead to try and rejoin where I left off without it throwing a long advert at me after every skip, does it still do this?

And they wonder why people look for alternative methods to watch stuff! Cough..... TeaTV........Cough
You may not like it but adverts are the entire reason ITV is free to air in the first place. It’s not surprising their streaming tech would similarly include adverts. Unskippable adverts may be the salvation of free public service TV in the long run, as if more people catch up via streaming than via a PVR which would allow them to skip the adverts.

There will always be people motivated enough to use pirate services to avoid them but I doubt there are nearly enough of them to seriously dent ITV’s business model.

SnoopZ 03-12-2022 13:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36141104)
You may not like it but adverts are the entire reason ITV is free to air in the first place. It’s not surprising their streaming tech would similarly include adverts. Unskippable adverts may be the salvation of free public service TV in the long run, as if more people catch up via streaming than via a PVR which would allow them to skip the adverts.

There will always be people motivated enough to use pirate services to avoid them but I doubt there are nearly enough of them to seriously dent ITV’s business model.
You completely misunderstood my issue.

I've got no issue with ads my issue is it was impossible for me to skip to the place I left off on normal ITV and refind the exact time of the show on the ITVHub app, as I didn't know the time I stopped watching it so every single skip I did to try and find the correct place I had to sit through minutes of ads each time, this happened everytime I moved the slider, after 10mins I had to give up.

Jaymoss 03-12-2022 13:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36141104)
You may not like it but adverts are the entire reason ITV is free to air in the first place. It’s not surprising their streaming tech would similarly include adverts. Unskippable adverts may be the salvation of free public service TV in the long run, as if more people catch up via streaming than via a PVR which would allow them to skip the adverts.

There will always be people motivated enough to use pirate services to avoid them but I doubt there are nearly enough of them to seriously dent ITV’s business model.
I get none of the unskippable adverts using Brave haha

I elect when I want browser ads by using Gener8 and I get points for doing so. I have managed to grab £6s worth of Amazon vouchers in a couple of months and will be trying to grab another £3 one this week

Legendkiller2k 03-12-2022 14:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36141102)
I remember 6 months ago I started watching something on normal ITV and wanted to continue it in another location via ITVHub, I found it impossible to skip ahead to try and rejoin where I left off without it throwing a long advert at me after every skip, does it still do this?

And they wonder why people look for alternative methods to watch stuff! Cough..... TeaTV........Cough
Ah teatv yes the virus infested app if you download the wrong one lol, the ammount of devices i've had to clean for people because they download dodgey apps.
But it's no wonder people turn to alternative methods when you get the likes of SKY waiting for months after new seasons of shows start to air them themselves.

Jaymoss 03-12-2022 14:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36141111)
Ah teatv yes the virus infested app if you download the wrong one lol, the ammount of devices i've had to clean for people because they download dodgey apps.
But it's no wonder people turn to alternative methods when you get the likes of SKY waiting for months after new seasons of shows start to air them themselves.
I know the guy who runs APK time so just install that and apps through that

Legendkiller2k 03-12-2022 17:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36141112)
I know the guy who runs APK time so just install that and apps through that
Yeah i use them too or Aptoide never had any problems at all with them but unfortuantly some of my friends seem to think they know better and get the apps elsewhere then cry when they get a virus lol.

Hugh 04-12-2022 09:46
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https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/s...-b2237552.html

Quote:
Sky will charge customers £5 if they fast forward through adverts, the broadcaster has announced.

From 1 December, all Sky Glass and Sky Stream users will see the additional charge for the Ad Skipping feature added to their monthly bills unless they opt out.

Anyone who refuses to pay the fee will be unable to skip commercial breaks on live channels, and will also be forced to watch all sponsored messages when using catch-up apps like ITVX and when watching via the Playlists menu.

"With Ad Skipping Add On, you’ll be able to fast forward through adverts when using Live Pause, Restart, Playlist or Sky On Demand,” the company said.

“The Ad Skipping Add On doesn’t mean that you won’t see any adverts. It allows the ability to fast forward through the ads using the relevant remote control buttons and on screen menu for what you’re watching.”

Sky also noted that the Ad Skipping Add On feature works with adverts from within ITVX, STV Player and All4 TV apps, however does not include other apps like Spotify or YouTube.

Customers with Sky Q set top boxes appear to not be impacted by the extra fees as the update is yet to roll out.

Anyone who recently bought Sky Glass TV will also be able to avoid paying anything extra for at least the next 18 months.

The satellite firm first announced the controversial Ad Skipping change last year, making it one of several platforms to introduce fees designed to crack down on ad skipping.

ITVX charges £5.99 and All4 charges £3.99 to customers wishing to skip ad breaks.

Jaymoss 04-12-2022 10:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36141147)
Looks like I will be setting up firesticks and android boxes again

jfman 04-12-2022 10:16
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What a glorious future :D

SnoopZ 04-12-2022 10:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36141149)
Looks like I will be setting up firesticks and android boxes again
Yep, this is basically a backdoor price rise for customers who would normally hit the skip button, it's ridiculous so you accidently press the skip button and Bam! £5 added to a monthly bill, try telling kids not to press it.

I can see this filtering down to VM if they get money out of it.

Jaymoss 04-12-2022 10:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36141152)
Yep, this is basically a backdoor price rise for customers who would normally hit the skip button, it's ridiculous so you accidently press the skip button and Bam! £5 added to a monthly bill, try telling kids not to press it.

I can see this filtering down to VM if they get money out of it.
takes the mick tbh. It will push people to illegal iptv. As I have said most of my media consumption is either downloaded or on demand. I do not watch live tv. But on demand has adverts. However the Brave browser on my PC bypasses said ads and the sites do not see it as they often do with browser adblockers so I do not see any ads anyway

SnoopZ 04-12-2022 10:25
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Yes, I generally don't watch normal TV everything is streamed via official apps or not so official, I really should pluck up the courage to phone VM and recontract without the TV service as I'm wasting money that I could be saving into an ISA with interest rates so good.

spiderplant 04-12-2022 10:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36141152)
it's ridiculous so you accidently press the skip button and Bam! £5 added to a monthly bill, try telling kids not to press it.
That's not how it works.
"Sky Glass and Sky Stream users will see the additional charge for the Ad Skipping feature added to their monthly bills unless they opt out."

SnoopZ 04-12-2022 10:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36141155)
That's not how it works.
"Sky Glass and Sky Stream users will see the additional charge for the Ad Skipping feature added to their monthly bills unless they opt out."
It should be Opt IN.

Jaymoss 04-12-2022 10:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36141157)
It should be Opt IN.
yeah but then they will miss out on the millions who will be totally oblivious to the charges and do not regularly check their statements. It is all part of a cunning plan

TimeLord2018 04-12-2022 11:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36141157)
It should be Opt IN.
It is Opt in for new customers to Sky Glass/Sky Stream now, it was 'free for 12 months' when Sky Glass launched in October last year.

Legendkiller2k 07-12-2022 20:46
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Discovery+ have started to sneak in adverts on their top tier.

RichardCoulter 08-12-2022 04:12
Re: Streaming services news, offers and general chit chat
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36141417)
Discovery+ have started to sneak in adverts on their top tier.
Sky, EE, BT & Plusnet customers now get it for free- I guess its to pay for that.

Virgin customers have to sit through ads and pay for the privilage.

ozsat 08-12-2022 15:24
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Discovery+ is not available as a part of the Virgin platform - only via non-Virgin devices.

Sky customers only get the non-sport content - not the full service.

Sky block access to all sport on the Discovery+ app - even if you subscribe to the Sports package on Discovery+.

Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36141428)
Sky, EE, BT & Plusnet customers now get it for free- I guess its to pay for that.

Virgin customers have to sit through ads and pay for the privilage.

epsilon 08-12-2022 22:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36141417)
Discovery+ have started to sneak in adverts on their top tier.
It was only a matter of time. So... which streamer will be next?

Legendkiller2k 09-12-2022 02:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36141491)
It was only a matter of time. So... which streamer will be next?
Disney+ they're already testing the waters with a ad tier as are Netflix.

Hugh 09-12-2022 09:28
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Where the headline does not reflect the article…

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...v-by-2030.html

Headline and first paragraph
Quote:
Broadband Woes as BBC Plan to Switch Off Terrestrial UK TV by 2030

The Director-General of the BBC, Tim Davie, has given broadband ISPs and mobile operators something extra to think about after he proposed that the corporation could plan to “switch-off” terrestrial TV and radio signals by the end of 2030. In their place, the broadcaster would focus on online content and streaming (e.g. iPlayer).
Article
Quote:
Tim Davie, BBC Director-General, said:

“Firstly, we must work together to ensure that everyone is connected, and can get their TV and radio via the internet. This isn’t something to resist. A fully connected UK has very significant benefits for society and our economy. It would unleash huge opportunities for innovation.

For the BBC, internet-only distribution is an opportunity to connect more deeply with our audiences and to provide them with better services and choice than broadcast allows. It provides a significant editorial opportunities. A switch off of broadcast will and should happen over time, and we should be active in planning for it.

Of course, there’s a bad way it could happen. Where access to content is no longer universal. Or is unaffordable for too many. Where the gateway to content is owned by well capitalised overseas companies.

So, we must close gaps and guarantee accessibility for all. Forecasts suggest that by 2030, about 2 million homes will still not be using fixed-line broadband and even in a few years 5% of the UK landmass may not be covered by 5G or 4G to provide content on the move. Now I know that there is a renewed effort to drive this coverage by Government and the DCMS; this is critical.

While the BBC cannot fund the build-out it can collaborate with others to make a move to online attractive to all, and play a big part in educating people about the transition. We will become more active as part of a coalition to make this happen.

Let’s all work to plan it flawlessly and leave no-one behind, and ensure that UK businesses and audiences get maximum benefit.”
Correct headline should have been

Possible Broadband Woes as BBC Could Plan to Switch Off Terrestrial UK TV by 2030 (sorry, OB).

Chris 09-12-2022 12:16
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It sounds to me more like "unlikely woes as while the BBC might like to switch off terrestrial broadcast by 2030 they think the UK's internet infrastructure won't be ready".

Legendkiller2k 09-12-2022 12:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36141507)
Where the headline does not reflect the article…

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...v-by-2030.html

Headline and first paragraph


Article


Correct headline should have been

Possible Broadband Woes as BBC Could Plan to Switch Off Terrestrial UK TV by 2030 (sorry, OB).
2030 6G will be rolling out lol Vodafone are already testing, if and it's a very big if they turned of terrestial tv then i think satellite would be the option over broadband tv.

Chris 09-12-2022 12:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36141513)
2030 6G will be rolling out lol Vodafone are already testing, if and it's a very big if they turned of terrestial tv then i think satellite would be the option over broadband tv.
Counter intuitively, from an energy impact point of view terrestrial should be the favoured broadcast medium. Home devices use a fraction of the energy to receive Freeview than satellite. And terrestrial transmitters are a lot more energy efficient than the distribution chain via satellite (and streaming is actually the worst of the lot).

The Beeb did some research a couple of years ago.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2020-0...ming-broadcast

Having said all that, I suspect that satellite probably best reaches the places fast broadband still won’t have done by the early 2030s, so if they want to keep a one-way broadcast channel open to cover those without the ability to stream, satellite will be it.

It’s worth noting in all of this that they’re not proposing abandoning their broadcast schedule - just reducing the number of ways they deliver it to the single most flexible option, which in the long run has to be internet because it’s the only one that fully integrates two-way transmission and on-demand ability.

pip08456 09-12-2022 14:28
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As usual with the media, could becomes will.

jfman 10-12-2022 11:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36141507)
Where the headline does not reflect the article…

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...v-by-2030.html

Headline and first paragraph

Article

Correct headline should have been

Possible Broadband Woes as BBC Could Plan to Switch Off Terrestrial UK TV by 2030 (sorry, OB).
Saw the headline and thought “wow”. Read the article and thought no change there then.

ISP Review is *usually* a bit better than that.

Mr K 11-12-2022 10:33
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Just as well we still have freeview, wouldnt have seen the footy last night otherwise. My VM tv/BB services down for a day thanks to an 'outage', apart from my phone which isn't voip (yet) thankfully.

Streaming is a long way from being the future. All your eggs in one basket is a crap idea. Terrestrial tv is far more 'robust'.

1701-e 11-12-2022 20:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36141603)
Just as well we still have freeview, wouldnt have seen the footy last night otherwise. My VM tv/BB services down for a day thanks to an 'outage', apart from my phone which isn't voip (yet) thankfully.

Streaming is a long way from being the future. All your eggs in one basket is a crap idea. Terrestrial tv is far more 'robust'.
Well said sir

Hugh 23-12-2022 15:12
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YouTube set to pay NFL $2bn a year for American football rights

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/4...2eb6c698a3d6d8

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YouTube is expected to pay close to $2 billion annually to secure American football rights in the latest example of sports coverage moving from traditional television towards streaming.

The National Football League, or NFL, said it had agreed a multi-year deal with Alphabet, the owner of Google and YouTube, for its Sunday Ticket subscription package.

The package is in addition to the NFL’s $110 billion broadcast deal with media partners, which is the most expensive live sports rights agreement in the world.

TimeLord2018 04-01-2023 22:03
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Paramount+ app is now available on LG Smart TVs in the UK & Ireland
https://www.mediaplaynews.com/lg-pre...o-lg-channels/

savvychels 05-01-2023 18:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36143148)
Paramount+ app is now available on LG Smart TVs in the UK & Ireland
https://www.mediaplaynews.com/lg-pre...o-lg-channels/
Not my LG, sadly. But fingers crossed. It took a while for Apple to be added to it, so being a few years older it might take a little longer to roll out (if it does).

SonicMaster 05-01-2023 21:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by savvychels (Post 36143208)
Not my LG, sadly. But fingers crossed. It took a while for Apple to be added to it, so being a few years older it might take a little longer to roll out (if it does).
As long as the TV is a 2018 model or newer with the webOS 4.0 software, it should be available.

savvychels 06-01-2023 07:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36143213)
As long as the TV is a 2018 model or newer with the webOS 4.0 software, it should be available.
2017 unfortunately, so just missed the cutoff. But as I said, it took a little longer for a couple of other apps to get added, so fingers crossed they work back a little further. My webOS is 6.10 or something around there, if not we’ll just have to keep watching through Firestick on the smaller TV.

SnoopZ 06-01-2023 08:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by savvychels (Post 36143241)
2017 unfortunately, so just missed the cutoff. But as I said, it took a little longer for a couple of other apps to get added, so fingers crossed they work back a little further. My webOS is 6.10 or something around there, if not we’ll just have to keep watching through Firestick on the smaller TV.
Just get another Firestick as they're cheap and do everything.

buckeye 06-01-2023 12:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36143213)
As long as the TV is a 2018 model or newer with the webOS 4.0 software, it should be available.
Unfortunately it doesn't work on my 2022 LG G2, I just get the spinning wheel forever on any video I try to play.
I guess my Roku stick isn't facing retirement any time soon lol

savvychels 06-01-2023 23:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36143242)
Just get another Firestick as they're cheap and do everything.
That’s the plan at some point. Just kicking myself for not taking up the Black Friday offer 🤦*♀️

SnoopZ 07-01-2023 12:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by savvychels (Post 36143303)
That’s the plan at some point. Just kicking myself for not taking up the Black Friday offer 🤦*♀️
If you plan to use a Firestick with BBC iPlayer then the Firestick Max is the only Firestick that currently supports UHD 4K for the BBC iPlayer app.

cheekyangus 07-01-2023 18:21
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I see they've finally added ITVX in Scotland.

RichardCoulter 07-01-2023 21:54
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Over Christmas a Government spokesman confirmed that it was of the view that password sharing outside ones primary home was illegal under copyright law.

I wonder if anyone's told Nafine Dorries :D

Chris 07-01-2023 23:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36143345)
Over Christmas a Government spokesman confirmed that it was of the view that password sharing outside ones primary home was illegal under copyright law.

I wonder if anyone's told Nafine Dorries :D
They backtracked on that in well under 24 hours.

RichardCoulter 08-01-2023 14:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36143349)
They backtracked on that in well under 24 hours.
Thanks, i'd not seen that.

Paul 08-01-2023 14:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36143349)
They backtracked on that in well under 24 hours.
They did ?

I saw it at the time and just ignored it, as most people would pay no attention anyway, but I never saw any article saying they changed their minds.

Chris 08-01-2023 15:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36143362)
They did ?

I saw it at the time and just ignored it, as most people would pay no attention anyway, but I never saw any article saying they changed their minds.
They put the guidance on their website and removed it the same morning, but their press office continued responding to media enquiries as if it was current. The result is that the legal position is now clear as mud.

It appears that they still think it’s against the criminal law, so the CPS could prosecute if handed a case by the police, but only if the police actually conducted an investigation. And the BBC at least has had no success getting any police force to go on record and say it would be prepared to spend time investigating an allegation of password sharing.

Where this seems to leave us is that it *might* be illegal, but the IPO won’t push it, the police won’t investigate it and the CPS is therefore not expecting to prosecute it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-64003237

jfman 08-01-2023 15:43
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Since Government guidance doesn’t constitute law it’d be interesting to know what law they believe(d) prohibits it as presumably an over-zealous streaming service or a third party acting on their behalf could test it in court.

heavyside 12-01-2023 08:31
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360 boxes have begun updating with software version 4.45. There is now a button at the top of the guide page for radio and Netflix-style previews of movies in the banner at the top of that page.

RichardCoulter 16-01-2023 15:40
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Some good news for Sky customers as they are to get free sport:

https://www.skygroup.sky/en-gb/artic...-6-99-a-month-

vincerooney 16-01-2023 23:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36143737)
Some good news for Sky customers as they are to get free sport:

https://www.skygroup.sky/en-gb/artic...-6-99-a-month-
isn't that just Eurosport?

1andrew1 17-01-2023 00:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36143771)
isn't that just Eurosport?
That's what I think too.

RichardCoulter 17-01-2023 00:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36143771)
isn't that just Eurosport?
Not sure. Aren't they now involved with BT Sport, so maybe they get thst??

TimeLord2018 17-01-2023 00:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36143771)
isn't that just Eurosport?
Yes.

1andrew1 17-01-2023 08:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36143775)
Not sure. Aren't they now involved with BT Sport, so maybe they get thst??
They don't get that, it's a premium service.

I think it's more a case of saying that as you get the Discovery content through the linear channels anyway, we'll give you the app that contains this content.

SnoopZ 17-01-2023 09:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36143737)
Some good news for Sky customers as they are to get free sport:

https://www.skygroup.sky/en-gb/artic...-6-99-a-month-
Not all Sky customers.

RichardCoulter 17-01-2023 12:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36143784)
Not all Sky customers.
Sky Q, Sky Glass & Sky Stresm.

Paul 17-01-2023 14:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36143737)
Some good news for Sky customers as they are to get free sport:
Only for some Sky customers.

Not for existing Sky+ customers. :td:
Quote:
Sky Q, Sky Glass and Sky Stream customers can now sign up for discovery+ as part of their monthly Sky TV subscription, saving £6.99/€6.99 a month*.
Quote:
Customers with Sky Q Essentials, Sky Q Lite, and Sky+ unfortunately can’t access discovery+ content at no extra cost

Itshim 17-01-2023 17:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36143771)
isn't that just Eurosport?
Sky TV customers already enjoying the 12-months’ discovery+ Entertainment pass will now be able to access the discovery+ Entertainment and Sport service on an ongoing basis as part of their Sky TV package. Those customers will be automatically upgraded.

Media Boy UK 25-01-2023 13:09
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STV has got the rights to "Brookside" for STV Player from February 1st.

Starting with ten episodes dropping when five episodes dropping weekly.

https://www.tvzoneuk.com/post/brookside-stvplayer-ann1

Rob King 25-01-2023 15:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36144405)
STV has got the rights to "Brookside" for STV Player from February 1st.

Starting with ten episodes dropping when five episodes dropping weekly.

https://www.tvzoneuk.com/post/brookside-stvplayer-ann1
Can't wait for this hope we get series in England on VM box too

SnoopZ 25-01-2023 17:11
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I bet the people who bought the houses won't be happy with the rerun!!!

Itshim 25-01-2023 18:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob King (Post 36144417)
Can't wait for this hope we get series in England on VM box too
Never see it, there again that goes for lots of"hit" shows, ie masked singer, Corrie ,EastEnders , dancing on anything ! That I have chosen not too.

denphone 30-01-2023 08:17
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Reality bites..

Quote:
British households cut more than 2m subscriptions to services such as Netflix, Prime Video and Disney+ last year, as the cost of living crisis fuelled the first annual decline since the UK streaming revolution began a decade ago.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...living-netflix

OLD BOY 30-01-2023 08:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36144695)
It’s not really surprising that subscriptions for non-essentials would be hit by the cost of living crisis. However, the penultimate paragraph of that item is interesting.

‘In total, there were 1.5m new streaming subscriptions in the UK in the fourth quarter, and 1.2m cancellations, resulting in overall growth of 300,000.’

It is pertinent to note that Sky has also been losing customers, so it’s not just the streamers that took a hit.

Hugh 30-01-2023 08:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36144696)
It’s not really surprising that subscriptions for non-essentials would be hit by the cost of living crisis. However, the penultimate paragraph of that item is interesting.

‘In total, there were 1.5m new streaming subscriptions in the UK in the fourth quarter, and 1.2m cancellations, resulting in overall growth of 300,000.’
And in the middle of the article, that figure is stated, followed by a caveat…

Quote:
The final quarter of last year offered signs of a modest recovery, as the traditionally bumper Christmas period added a net increase of 300,000 subscriptions.

However, the recovery may be short-lived, with evidence that some new customers were simply looking for a quick binge over the festive period.

The research firm Kantar said the proportion of consumers planning to cancel one or more subscription video-on-demand services in the first three months of 2023 had risen to 12%, up from 9.6%, “indicating short-term holiday quarter subscribers are quickly looking to cut back”.
https://www.vizion.com/wp-content/up...2017/01/15.gif

OLD BOY 30-01-2023 09:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36144697)
And in the middle of the article, that figure is stated, followed by a caveat…



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Quite, but I think Den’s brief comment was meant to imply that the popularity of streamers against pay-TV channels was declining. There is no evidence for this if that was the point being made. Sky has also been losing viewers.

The cause is the cost of living crisis, not the popularity of streamers. Of course all types of TV subscriptions will suffer during an economic crunch.

jfman 30-01-2023 10:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36144698)
Quite, but I think Den’s brief comment was meant to imply that the popularity of streamers against pay-TV channels was declining. There is no evidence for this if that was the point being made. Sky has also been losing viewers.

The cause is the cost of living crisis, not the popularity of streamers. Of course all types of TV subscriptions will suffer during an economic crunch.
:rofl:

I’m not sure “we are popular but less people are giving us money” will keep shareholders happy.

The experience of 2008 was that pay-tv subscriber numbers held up well during the economic downturn. The difference your streaming services have is all their eggs are in one basket, disposable - general entertainment services with short term contracts.

Sky/Virgin have diverse product portfolios (broadband, mobile), broader customer base upon which to absorb their fixed costs and a compelling sports offering that is among the last things to be cut back.

I also think you were reading too much into Den’s brief quip, however your natural impulse to leap to the defence of streaming services for some unknown reason kicked into action.

nomadking 31-01-2023 17:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob King (Post 36144417)
Can't wait for this hope we get series in England on VM box too
STV Player is available in the Apps section.

Rob King 31-01-2023 18:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36144844)
STV Player is available in the Apps section.
Yes I saw that the other day all registered for tomorrow

Itshim 31-01-2023 18:54
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What is the REAL difference between using a streaming service to catch up on a show and recording it to watch as and when you want too. Unless it has a show exclusively , I fail to the point of bothering with the hassle and of course the cost of bothering. At the moment I have Netflix but if I watch an hour or show a week that's about it ! Will cancel until Wednesday comes back. Finding less and less to bother with ,give the number shows they cancel , just read on Facebook that 1899 is cancelled , so will stop before I get to interested .

Jaymoss 31-01-2023 19:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36144847)
What is the REAL difference between using a streaming service to catch up on a show and recording it to watch as and when you want too. Unless it has a show exclusively , I fail to the point of bothering with the hassle and of course the cost of bothering. At the moment I have Netflix but if I watch an hour or show a week that's about it ! Will cancel until Wednesday comes back. Finding less and less to bother with ,give the number shows they cancel , just read on Facebook that 1899 is cancelled , so will stop before I get to interested .
Main difference I would say is you run out of disk space recording whereas in streaming you do not have to worry about that

jfman 06-02-2023 16:40
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Deep pockets are what YOU will need for DAZN from next month as their UK price goes up an eye-watering 150% from £7.99 a month to £19.99.

Given they have zero content of note it’s difficult to see how the fledgeling streamer survives in the UK.

denphone 06-02-2023 16:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36145306)
Deep pockets are what YOU will need for DAZN from next month as their UK price goes up an eye-watering 150% from £7.99 a month to £19.99.

Given they have zero content of note it’s difficult to see how the fledgeling streamer survives in the UK.
Doomed springs to mind...

1andrew1 06-02-2023 17:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36145306)
Deep pockets are what YOU will need for DAZN from next month as their UK price goes up an eye-watering 150% from £7.99 a month to £19.99.

Given they have zero content of note it’s difficult to see how the fledgeling streamer survives in the UK.
I can imagine how that convo went.

Finance: How much do we need to charge per subscriber to break even?
Operations: £19.99
Finance: Please raise the price to £19.99
Pricing analyst: What about the inevitable cancellations?
Finance: We'll make them up from your salary. You're fired.

Itshim 06-02-2023 17:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36144849)
Main difference I would say is you run out of disk space recording whereas in streaming you do not have to worry about that
Most I have ever used is 17% !

jfman 06-02-2023 19:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36145311)
I can imagine how that convo went.

Finance: How much do we need to charge per subscriber to break even?
Operations: £19.99
Finance: Please raise the price to £19.99
Pricing analyst: What about the inevitable cancellations?
Finance: We'll make them up from your salary. You're fired.
Just imagine what they’d hike the price to if they’d substantive sports rights to cover the cost of!

Paul 06-02-2023 20:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36145306)
Deep pockets are what YOU will need for DAZN from next month as their UK price goes up an eye-watering 150% from £7.99 a month to £19.99.
Its only £9.99 if you sign up for 12 months.
The £19.99 seems to be a "cancel anytime" pass.

1andrew1 09-02-2023 13:29
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I think this reduces the prospect of HBO Max launching in the UK in 2025.
Quote:
Warner Bros. Discovery will keep Discovery+ platform

Warner Bros. Discovery is planning to maintain Discovery+ as a separate service after it emerged some consumers weren’t prepared to move to an enlarged platform including HBO Max.

It had been announced that WBD would combine both Discovery+ and HBO Max into a supersized service featuring content from both platforms and in the European market, Eurosport.

There is concern that forcing customers into taking out an HBO subscription might put a serious dent into the platform’s 20 million subscriber base. Some Discovery content, such as Discovery Channel’s Shark Week, would appear on both platforms.

Combining HBO Max with Discovery+ had been a major plank of the merged Warner Bros and Discovery offer with management arguing there were too man streaming services in the marketplace.
https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2023...very-platform/

TimeLord2018 09-02-2023 13:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36145511)
I think this reduces the prospect of HBO Max launching in the UK in 2025.

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2023...very-platform/
There still merging the services but the lower priced Discovery+ will also still be available Standalone aswell according to Wall Street Journal, there afraid of losing the Discovery+ subscribers


Quote:
Warner Bros. Discovery to Keep Discovery+, in Strategy Shift , Decision reflects concerns that some Discovery+ subscribers might not want to move to pricier platform

Instead of combining HBO Max and Discovery+ in their entirety, the new platform will feature HBO Max content and most Discovery+ content, with Discovery+ remaining available as a stand-alone option, some of the people said.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/warner-...nfaajffytes5yl

Legendkiller2k 09-02-2023 21:08
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I decided to give SKY stream a go as it's on a free month trial atm with no upfront fees, it arrived today and i'm not impressed tbh.
I'm going to give it a couple of weeks as not paying for it anyway for first month, i do like how discovery+ is included and it appears to be Discovery+ top tier as you get Eurosport too.
However the puck was a nightmare to set up took a few hard resets to link to my SKY account, no ability to scroll through channels either you have to keep going back to the guide.

Itshim 12-02-2023 11:25
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If itx is typical of streaming then they can keep it . It's painful ! Will watch the show I am in the middle
of And not bother again

OLDGOLD 12-02-2023 12:50
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If you have a package that includes Netflix and you opt to pay the extra £5 per month for Netflix premium, can you still use the Netflix app on your smart TV or do you have to watch through the V6 box?

Legendkiller2k 12-02-2023 13:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36145564)
I decided to give SKY stream a go as it's on a free month trial atm with no upfront fees, it arrived today and i'm not impressed tbh.
I'm going to give it a couple of weeks as not paying for it anyway for first month, i do like how discovery+ is included and it appears to be Discovery+ top tier as you get Eurosport too.
However the puck was a nightmare to set up took a few hard resets to link to my SKY account, no ability to scroll through channels either you have to keep going back to the guide.
Edit to this a update now means you just use the navigation buttons to change channels.

1701-e 12-02-2023 14:58
Re: Streaming services news, offers and general chit chat
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLDGOLD (Post 36145778)
If you have a package that includes Netflix and you opt to pay the extra £5 per month for Netflix premium, can you still use the Netflix app on your smart TV or do you have to watch through the V6 box?
You can use either

Itshim 12-02-2023 15:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36145789)
You can use either
As you say, it works on smart TV and virgin box . Sub is NOT paid Virgin :erm:

OLDGOLD 12-02-2023 17:52
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Thanks for the replies

OLD BOY 12-02-2023 19:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36145771)
If itx is typical of streaming then they can keep it . It's painful ! Will watch the show I am in the middle
of And not bother again
I’ve not had any problems with ITVX at all. Is it your connection or signal causing these problems?

1andrew1 13-02-2023 16:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36145830)
I’ve not had any problems with ITVX at all.
Likewise and I've used it on a variety of devices.

Itshim 13-02-2023 17:39
Re: Streaming services news, offers and general chit chat
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36145830)
I’ve not had any problems with ITVX at all. Is it your connection or signal causing these problems?
No connection problems, far too much time wasted on adverts, also after a short break , programme went back to start. Life's to short to bother with this type of streamer :erm:

1andrew1 13-02-2023 17:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36145882)
No connection problems, far too much time wasted on adverts, also after a short break , programme went back to start. Life's to short to bother with this type of streamer :erm:
I'm sure if you paid for it, the adverts would go. The other issue is worrying though.


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