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Seems to be pretty endemic to be honest in everything :)

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Chemotherapy also makes people more vulnerable, with a destroyed immune system. So choices could be no chemotherapy and able to fight the virus, and not destroying enough cancer cells soon enough. A rock & a hard place indeed.

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Well that's the nature of the Eurozone though - macroeconomic levers need a co-ordinated approach across states that use the currency and some of this has to be steered from the top.

That's what they agreed to in the 90s.

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The problem is that Germany doesn't want to hand other countries a blank cheque to spend Germany's money on whatever they want. They want budgetary control as well.

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Considering we left the EU citing the amount we paid in I think members on that side of the fence should be more considerate of the German position.

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IMO A major problem in general is that the focus on transmission methods has been coughing, sneezing, and contact with contaminated surfaces. People go out, they're not coughing or sneezing or touching something or somebody from another household, and everybody else out there is the same, they are given the impression that everything will be ok. The problem is greater than that. It seems to be becoming very apparent that breathing in and out is an issue, and passing saliva around by whatever method(eg drinking straight from same bottle) is an absolute no-no. Whether simply calmly breathing in and out is a problem is one thing, but breathing in and out more forcibly from exercising, singing, laughing, or shouting is going to be more risky. Saliva droplets will be forced out at a greater speed and range.

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First post in nearly 5 years!!!

Welcome back Graham I hope you are well :)

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The largest recipients of Marshall Plan were the United Kingdom, which received about 26% of the total, followed by France (18%) and West Germany (11%) - we received $3,297 million dollars, France $2,296 million dollars, and West Germany $1,448 million dollars.

https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wiki...shall_Plan.htm

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Mogg getting a bit of stick on Twitter because his investment fund has issued an update that this situation presents a "once or twice in a generation opportunity". While against the backdrop of Premiership footballers being asked to take a wage cut (of course - the Government could legislate to make all high earners £1m+ p/a pay more tax) it doesn't look particularly good to the pitch fork wielders of Twitter.

The other part of me though is asking the obvious question - are they offering anything particularly insightful with this? It's not exactly a hot take to say if you pick up investments as the stock markets collapse in a panic that if you are willing to bide your time you are likely to see substantial returns at the other side of a recession.

Similarly if you are thinking of a big house move house prices will fall shortly and borrowing has never been cheaper. This doesn't make me Warren Buffet or George Soros here.

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It’s not a good look, but the rules of financial conduct are pretty strict. They are almost certainly obliged by law to issue guidance of this sort, no matter how mercenary it seems.

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Where do people think the money that Governments borrow, comes from? It comes from Government bonds that are bought by people with money, who then expect their money back with an additional return. In that sense Government bonds from a reliable country that is going to pay it back could be seen as a good and safe investment.

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That's not what the advice relates to though. It related to the opportunity to make supernormal returns.

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Seeing as "normal" is going to not be that great or even a loss, a safe investment it a "supernormal" one. Still the underlying principal remains, it is people with spare money to invest that provides the money that government borrows. Same as for money for mortgages and business and personal borrowing.

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Normal and supernormal are defined terms in economics. You can't conflate the two in this way in the context of the advice from Mogg's investment group.

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Link

I see Labour still showing their contempt for people's safety and encouraging everybody to ignore the lockdown.

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Eh?

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Nothing in that link supports your assertion. Did you post the correct link?

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They're giving people an excuse to ignore the lockdown. Doesn't have to be explicit, just enough to plant the idea in people's minds that it's perfectly ok to go out for no real justifiable reason at all. They are deliberately and maliciously subverting the notion of lockdown.

If they were remotely interested in the health of the nation, they should take the approach of "Unfortunately in the current circumstances, people should remain at home". Would that be so hard for them?

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Angela Rayner is doing her one trick and turning it into a class war issue. No surprise there.

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BREAKING: Prime Minister Boris Johnson has been taken to hospital as a precaution for tests due to ongoing Coronavirus Symptoms.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...tests-11969053

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Not a fan, but I hope he is OK - this virus crisis means we have to rise above politics.

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+1

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l would not wish Coronavirus on anybody so l hope he gets better as soon as possible.

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Obviously hope he's okay but I also hope that it helps people get the message - stay home.

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Actually sad to hear that as I thought he was nearly recovered. Of course, he will have been very run down coping with the whole crisis. He'll be in the best possible place for care.

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BREAKING: Scotland’s Chief Medical Officer Catherine Calderwood has just resigned, this is due to her position becoming untenable when on two occasions in the last week travelled twice to her holiday home, going against her own advice to Stay home.

https://news.sky.com/story/scotlands...kdown-11969073

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Well yes, unbelievable it took so long for her to go.

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Delicious. The SNP machine spent all morning telling everyone she’d done nothing wrong, move along now, nothing to see here. Apparently the party that can do no wrong, got it wrong.

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Good timing though.

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Yes, the Boris news is convenient cover for her resignation. Very surprised she wasn't asked to step down though.

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It’s difficult to explain to anyone who doesn’t swim in Scottish politics every day of the week. The view you get of Sturgeon and the SNP down south is not the same as we get here where they are on the tv news every single sudding day.

The SNP is above everything else a campaigning organisation that believes in the righteousness of The Cause (that being independence). They have come to believe that their cause is so right that they, being in pursuit of it, can do no wrong. That tips over into everything they do. People who should get sacked don’t get sacked. People who should be criticised are defended. It’s a knee jerk reflex response, borne out of an inability to believe that the SNP (or by extension those working for it) can do any wrong. And yes, I am aware that Calderwood was a government employee and not a party hack but here in Scotland over the last 13 years the lines have become very blurred and the SNP shows precious little evidence that it understands the difference between itself and Scotland.

If Nicola Sturgeon was the politician that everyone in England seems to think she is, she would have had the instincts to distance herself from Calderwood today. But she didn’t. She had her government press office issue a strident defence of her all morning, and then this afternoon, embarrassingly, used the daily Covid press conference to state emphatically that she had to remain in post because of her expertise. That is because Sturgeon’s instinct is always that Sturgeon is right, the people Sturgeon is associated with are right, and everyone who questions her is a Tory.

It remains to be seen whether Boris’ hospitalisation will deflect much attention from this in the Scottish press tomorrow. Scottish news editors tend to have their own agenda (even the ones working for UK-wide titles) and the front pages in Scotland are almost always different than in England.

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In the Scottish press though it doesn’t really matter. SNP voters recognise the inherent bias of a London controlled unionist media and are naturally distrusting.

They will simply be preaching to their diminishing readership with their “SNP bad” mantra. While embarrassing for the SNP there’s already, understandably, traction among SNP voters in pushing the Prince Charles comparison.

The unionist parties need to get out of the rut they are stuck in relating to Scotland and offer a genuinely forward looking policy narrative rather than fight each other for the same roughly 55% of the vote.

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The phrase “SNP bad” fairly neatly locates you in the debate ;)

Anyway, we’re drifting off topic here. Suffice it to say that the ex-chief medic is on every national front page in Scotland this morning, except for The National, which has a full page quote from the Declaration of Arbroath.

Move along, nothing to see here ...

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Ah Scottish politics...

But yes we are drifting.

Some “analysis” while not referring to Boris specifically seems to be indicating the likelihood is his condition could be quite serious - simple testing could be done in Downing Street. Rather worrying really.

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There were some unproven reports last week that his condition was worse then was he or his officials were prepared to admit but Downing Street flatly denied this last week but obviously his condition has worsened thus there was only one option and that is hospitalisation before he develops serious complications.

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I would imagine that the medical facilities in and around Downing Street including the Pindar Nuclear Bunker under Whitehall are somewhat more sophisticated than a green box of plasters hanging on a wall and an accident book. Also, the political optics of the Prime Minister to use NHS resources for a low level checkup wouldn't look great. Unless of course he went private which again, looks pretty bad.

For the Prime Minister to have to go to hospital suggests things are not great...

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I doubt they have a CT scanner in the bunker to check for lung damage.

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Most definitely not as CT scanners brand new would cost a pretty fair packet

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I doubt using a CT scanner requires an overnight stay though.

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Absolutely as Pneumonia among one of the potential complications is extremely dangerous as l know full well myself.

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That depends on the condition of the patient Andrew.

He is in the right place that is for sure.

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There's multiple facets to health that need to be considered.

Going out for an hour or so a days exercise as a family group, isn't ignoring the 'lockdown' that we're currently in.

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It's not a class thing though, it's a space thing

My brother in law lives in Leeds with his wife and also their housemate, they live in a 3 bedroom mid terrace house with no garden/driveway. . They're struggling with this a lot more than my wife and myself who are in our detached house with front and rear gardens. Due to them being constantly on top of each other and unable to find somewhere quiet.

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Your brother-in-law's wife .. wouldn't that be your sister?

Not an idea situation though, married couple with a housemate in any house at any time, let alone a terrace at a time like this. Just remembering, the only place I've ever seen/been inside a back-to-back terrace was in Leeds. Not one of those I hope.

We are insanely well off being out here in the countryside. There's a massive forestry commission plantation right behind our house, and I can step out of my front door, nip through the woods and onto the forestry access road, and then walk uphill for almost 2 hours with next to zero chance of seeing anyone, let alone meeting up (we have half a dozen neighbours, but would only meet them if they happened to be dog walking at the same time, and even then only on the nearest stretch of track).

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It's not a surprise the highest reported - by the press anyway - instances of people being in parks are in places like London with a lot of high density housing. People and families who may not have any private outdoors space.

The lockdown isn't sustainable if you force people to be inside for weeks on end. No one should congregate with people from outside their household and probably shouldn't be just sitting down having a few cans but overall the risk of people being apart in open air is minimal and might actually help sustain the lockdown for longer. Banning exercise or families walking in a park seems counterproductive to me, people will rebel if the measures are too strict or go on too long.

There seems to be a few people who are fetishising ever more draconian lockdown measures irrespective of how helpful those measures would be in slowing the spread of the virus. These are people for whom this crisis has been a boon for their own sense of self-importance and desire to police other people's behaviour, from inventing their own interpretation of the rules they demand others follow to online portals where these wannabe Stasi informants can report on their neighbours. You have people who want to ban all exercise, ban the sale of Easter eggs as they're not essential and have the army on the streets to enforce all of this.

The point of these measures are not to punish the public. It's to stop the virus and liberties should only be restricted to the extent it's effective in doing that. Even if you think we should entire total lockdown for 'as long as it takes' then remember that these measures depend on the cooperation of the public and that cooperation will break if they feel that they're are being penalised and cannot understand the reasoning why. Let people run outside, let them buy Easter eggs for their children at Easter.

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Exactly. And at the risk of invoking Godwin's Law, this is a useful lesson in recent history. It has become quite fashionable over the last couple of decades to talk about WW2 in terms of what 'the Nazis' did, rather than simply 'Germany' as was more common throughout the latter half of the 20th century.

The idea that the conflagration was caused entirely by the aggression of a political party is nonsense. The Nazi Party could never have achieved what it did without the passive approval of the masses, especially in the early years of their rise, and the active participation of the ones who, as you put it, found it a boon to their own self-importance to be able to inform on their neighbours to the authorities and took joy in seeing their vision of order and discipline enforced by men in uniform.

It is mildly disturbing to see how vocal some people have become in that vein in this country, and it is not hard to see how, given a prolonged existential crisis, we could end up with enthusiastic little Hitlers in every community in the UK.

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Nope...

Yep, they're in a back to back terrace in the middle of studentsville they were early in the process of selling and moving further out into the 'burbs' but obviously thats been stopped.

Very lucky here too, big house only two humans and one dog so plenty of space for us when needed to be able to keep apart from each other, big rear garden. and a five minute walk from public footpaths enabling us to go on a walk with the dog.

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Jeepers, now we have gone off on one ! :D

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According to strict Usenet protocol, this thread is now over. :D

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While it is indeed worrying I have to point out these are extraordinarily specific circumstances. I am holding out that this will prompt a liberalisation of sorts once it is over.

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Well I for one won't be washing my hands again.

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So, you wash your hands of washing your hands?

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Finally taken delivery of a N95 facemask and hand sanitiser, they screwed up and sent 2 though.

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:confused:

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Looks like the Gov has brought out the big guns to keep us in isolation

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/113372...navirus-video/

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Is it something like this?
https://x-merry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/15-2.jpg

Saw somebody walking about wearing one in the background of a TV news report from London the other day !

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The Daleks were unwise to invade at Robin Hoods bay, they'll have a few technical issues getting out of the place.

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God help them being in a back to back. Those are really cramped spaces. I almost moved in one and I'm glad I never now. Still don't have a garden though...

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I am pretty sure he means that the public's experiences of having freedoms we've typically taken for granted being restricted causes them to be more zealous about individual freedom when we get it back. Isn't that confusing?

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Yes this, all the busy bodies will have it out of their system and everyone will be tired of them.

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Yeah, they bought it when they were still students..... been trying to get out for a while now

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Not good news, but to be expected with new technology.

https://www.ft.com/content/f28e26a0-...b-b3a618ca659d

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Alex Wickham has just reported breaking news about the PM Boris Johnson.

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Awful news. Both for him and his family but also the country.

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Terrible news.

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Dreadful news for all who know him and not the best news for the UK, although constitutionally he isn’t an executive president and there doesn’t have to be an election if the worst happens. The Tories are pretty good in a crisis and I reckon the 1922 committee would crown a successor pretty quickly.

Let’s not dwell on that though. I have a friend who was in and out of the ICU twice with C19 and he has pulled through. Going into intensive care isn’t the death knell and there’s still every reason to believe he will pull through. Here’s wishing him a speedy recovery anyway. :tu:

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BREAKING: Prime Minister Boris Johnson suffered breathing difficulties and placed on oxygen before being moved in to ICU earlier tonight.

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Nolan inviting callers on talking about him in the past tense ffs.

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get well soon as possible Boris

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Get well soon Boris

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https://www.theguardian.com/educatio...onavirus-study

Irresponsible headline from the Guardian here.

The actual study says school closures on their own have negligible effect. Of course not, if you let everyone else go about their daily business in offices, on public transport, gather at events, in pubs, clubs and other places to spread the virus then it stands to reason the difference is barely noticeable.

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Agreed - from the article

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Isn't this the paper that came out weeks ago? Did they only just read it?

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That isn't what it's saying.
"The University College London team says keeping pupils off has little impact, even with other lockdown measures."
(from the BBC's reporting of it)

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Seems to contradict itself then.

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The problem is the BBC haven't interpreted the research correctly and published a line based on that.

Now, more than ever, we need to ensure messaging is right on this. Yet the average person reading that article could reasonably decide to let their kids play with other kids in the street/neighbourhood (doesn't really matter does it?) completely undermining the monumental effort that the NHS, Government, police and everyone else involved are putting into this.

Less compliance = longer lockdown because the figures won't support weakening measures. I want to get to the pub as much as the next bloke, preferably sooner.

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Well it's all a little bit late..

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A central problem with these studies is that they use very different types of societies to make comparisons. This study uses schools in China, Hong Kong, and Singapore. Not sure behaviour of schoolkids in China is going to be comparable to those in the UK.

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There is a big difference in the UK between primary schools where parents congregate to pick up their children and secondary where kids wouldn't be seen dead with their parents and make their own way home.
Also primary kids tend to sit closer and group closer than secondary who probably keep social distancing as a norm (until the happy hormones kick in).

More detail is needed to look at transmission between kids and the carrying to others of their interactions. If it can be proven that children (in a certain age group) don't act as good vectors for the virus MAYBE some options can be given but it's always the outliers that can cause problems and it's better to err on the side of safety.

Prayers going up for our PM.

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Seeing some good theories on how the virus works starting to fit together. They think it causes the red blood cells to dump their iron in the lungs (which is very toxic) and this can be mitigated with vitamin c or prevented with the Malaria drug Trump keeps recommending.*

*All early days theories so far.

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All I know is that trying to socially distance an entire school would be impossible. There's no classroom big enough.

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Some interesting theories regarding cytokine storms and they part that may be playing.

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That's pretty much what the original paper said in their conclusions;

Original paper link

The original paper is pretty good at saying what s not currently known as well as what is known. The big issues seem to be that schools are not shut in isolation, other things tend to be shut at the same time either deliberately or by consequence of people having to stay at home to look after their kids.

A lot of the data in that paper are from studies of SARS as COVID-19 is just too new. If COVID-19 behaves like SARS, then it appears that transmission in children is low as they are generally asymptomatic or have very mild symptoms and so are less likely to spread the disease (R0<1) unlike influenza infections that are rapidly spread by children.

Epidemiologists will be looking very closely at countries that are starting or will shortly start to open their schools again such as China and Denmark

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An interesting piece and well worth the read.

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Michael Gove is now reported to be self-isolating because a member of his family has displayed symptoms of coronavirus.

https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status...64344151089155

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Yeah let's pull the plug on Boris now and just open the pubs.

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Sorry, that's utter gutter journalism from the Sun as usual.

Pretty much all of those scenarios are answered in a black and white manneer when the answers to most of those questions are a grey cloud.

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Missus is absolutely fuming at the story on the BBC this morning (here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52180783 ). Professor Viner, it seems, hasn’t visited a school since he passed his A levels, if he thinks social distancing can be enforced with even half the kids in attendance or by “banning playtimes”. Even I know that banning playtime just makes the kids harder to control as the day progresses.

It’s a classic example of research by scientists who are great with statistics but don’t have much clue how humans (and especially children) actually behave.

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To be fair, an essay on the relative merits of deontology and consequentialism as ethical schemes would be a bit pointless in your Soaraway Sun.

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Yep, almost everything works on paper, but add in the variables encountered in 'real life' and . . .

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Only 50% of coronavirus patients have been surviving intensive care. 54% at Boris's age group, apparently.

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Boris Johnson is a pretty fit man for his age OB so there is a very good chance he will pull through.

l don't like to mention my own health experiences too much but l have pulled through several times so l am very confident he will pull through.

He is not on a ventilator which is a good sign.

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You might want to check the original paper that I linked up the page a bit. The work he published cites back to previous studies around the SARS outbreak and previous influenza outbreaks which showed little transmission in children and suggested that the effect of closing schools in isolation is limited.

Of course, school are never closed in isolation and one big side effect of closing schools is that it forced a significant part of the population to work from home or not work at all to look after their children. This has great social distancing impact but also an economic impact as, in the UK, 16% of the workforce are primary caregivers of children of school age.

Taiwan learned from SARS in 2003 and implemented social distancing in schools during the 2009 H1N1 influenza outbreak with some success and might provide a model for future reopening. Influenza is somewhat different to Coronavirus outbreaks as it spreads rapidly through children.

Russell Viners study is important as we go forward as it helps define the path back to normality. We will reopen schools, we will go back to work. The big questions are how and when - the famous 'exit strategy'

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I’m not questioning any of that. Simply the practicality of some of the specific suggestions Viners has made around the partial reopening of schools, which betray a complete lack of understanding of how British school premises are designed and utilised, and how children behave when they’re denied the chance to blow off steam in the playground.

Missus is volunteering at the local key workers school where the staff/pupil ratios, maximum room occupancy and other infection control measures are absolutely insane (in a good way). The building is a school with a capacity of a little under 200 and it is presently able to accommodate something like 40 children in order for social distancing to be maintained.

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I hope he pulls through quickly and with minimal (if any) complications but his current situation does not change how much I can't stand the fat lying so-and-so.

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I'm confident of his fitness but suspect he got a heavy dose as his line of work meant he was meeting and being with lots of different potential carriers day in, day out. The fact that he's not on a ventilator is a very positive sign.

When he does recover, I am sure he will also be deservedly resting up for a few weeks to fully recuperate.

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BREAKING: Prime Ministers official spokesman has given an update this lunchtime on PM's health condition. Says Boris remains stable, has received Standard Oxygen treatment, he is not on a ventilator and is not receiving any invasive respiratory assistance.

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All politicians are liars, Ross. They have to be, because when they change their minds (as a result of the listening, as they are frequently told they must do) they are accused of doing u-turns. To cover up their earlier mistakes, they tend to be economical with the truth.

Trouble is, with the media of today, every piffling gaff is highligted in the most sensationalist way ever.

Boris does mean well, and that's why he is so popular with most. He's human.

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*Russ

Yes, I know they’re all liars but this particular MP has a track records of being caught out with his lies and also happens to be in charge of running the country. I think the only way he means well is when he and his millionaire chums benefit.

Either way, I do hope he pulls through the CV.