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and you get 10/10 for constantly backing the wrong horse in a two horse race ;)

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Regardless of what you think of the ex (excellent imo) president of the US and the current Mayor of London, shouldn't you be moderating your own language, seeing as you're so keen on mature posts ?

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No big deal there as there are plenty of your horses who have never finished the race as they were out with the washing.;)

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In your opinion as like many others and you are entitled to your view but personally l see him Donald Trump as a utter prejudiced ignorant pig and dunderhead.

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wow you've got it in for poor old sadiq

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Personally l am not a lover of him but read my post again as the main crux of my post was my opinion of Donald Trump.

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it is now you've altered it - it wasn't when i copied and pasted it :)

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Plenty of politicians have same traits... What is the President of China then Den?

Blatantly ignores human rights for his people, in such a backwards fashion, their media is government controlled, basically he is about ten times the issues Donald Trump is accused of being, but we rolled out the red carpet for China's President... Am I missing something ?

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l agree totally about the Chinese President as he is a tyrannical dictator IMO but as l say we all have differing views on other leaders and politicians and l see nothing wrong with that as if we all shared the same view on everything life would be pretty boring IMO.

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Possibly your missing that we expect so much more from an American president. There were protests about the Chinese president's visit, must have been a novel experience for him to given it wouldn't happen back in China, he sucked it up and got on with it, the leader of the free world however isn't so keen to see democracy in action. Iirc the queen still hasn't forgiven government for making her sit down to dinner with the chouchesques (sp)

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I do not buy that at all. China is a super state just as much as America is, we should come to expect the same things from such countries.

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But we don't. America is closer to us historically, politically and culturally. We share a lot of common goals and beliefs. They're a democracy and close allies.

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Then all the ones wanting to protest his visit perhaps needs to be told the above.

France coped with his two day visit last week and they are suppose to be a less tolerant country than ours. :erm:

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They're protesting him, not America. (I mean some will be protesting America but you won't find me agreeing with their politics).

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There were protests in France during his visit.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7842151.html

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Sean Spicer resigns.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/21/u...secretary.html

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:(

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There has not been an on-camera press briefing for weeks, there is one right now.

Sarah Huckabee Sanders has just been promoted to press secretary.

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I can only imagine Passingbat's utter bewilderment as he swallows the poisonous fact that Trump has appointed yet another global financier to his team.
Saramucci does seem a good choice in my opinion and a strong bridge between Trump and the media.

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She anything to do with Colonel Sanders? :D

;)

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She has being doing the job for a while. I think this is more of a face-saving way for Spicer to go. More interesting would be if his Chief of Staff, Reince, or Bannon goes. The former is apparently a good link with congressionally Republicans but a lot will be happy to see the latter go.

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Has this guy expressed any support for World Government? If he has, I would have concerns; if not, what's the problem? If I remember correctly from his appearance at the press briefing, he hasn't worked for Goldman Sachs for 25 years.


There is nothing wrong with international financiers, except from the ones who believe they are part of an elite group of people who should be running the world and independent nation state democracy should be eradicated. Given Trumps position on that, I doubt he's hired a NWO supporter.

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Well, Scaramucci worked for Lehman Bros in the 2000s, and attends the World Economic Forum at Davos most years, so who knows?

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Scaramucci

sounds like a Bond villain [has he got a cat ]

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Wasn't he in bohemian rhapsody, doing the fandango

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Yep, you're missing a good deal of hypocrisy not to mention social media driven bandwagon jumping.

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True.


Given that the NWO proponents are opposite to Trumps firm belief in independent democratic sovereign nations, I really can't see him intentionally employing a anyone with world government beliefs. Because, although it's not obvious, that is what the anti Trump movement is really about. The globalists have been temporarily halted and Trump (and to a lesser degree Brexit) are the ones responsible.


The resistance to Trump and Brexit come as no surprise to me.

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Nor me.

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Isn't attending the World Economic Forum pretty globalist? Trump may have been able to tap into people's fears and insecurities about globalisation but it's not seems to motivate him. He himself takes advantage of it with hotels around the world, his products made in China and good business connections in real estate.

I also can tell you a lot of opposition to Trump is because people don't like him, or don't like this politics. Not everything is part of a wider movement.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40692709

I'm stunned! It's like some big blockbuster movie script..

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well if it's in the constitution :shrug:

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It's not - he can pardon others, but not himself.

He can't be his own judge and jury.

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thats a matter of opinion

Others though say the constitution does not preclude a self-pardon.
"A self-pardon might well be outrageously improper... but the response the Constitution creates for such misconduct is impeachment, a political rather than criminal remedy," Mark Tushnet, a law professor at Harvard University told Vox.

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Nixon wanted to try it but the impeachment was just around the corner and he resigned. I think most of the Republicans would think it a stretch for a President to try this.

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How many people who say they don't like him have listened to his full speeches and really understand his policies, or just listened to the BBC's biased news coverage? Until she resigned, Rona Fairhead, the Chairman of the BBC Trust, was attending Bilderberg meetings.


And who has been indirectly funding the anti Trump demonstrations? Globalists such as George Soros.


Since taking power, under Trump, The stock market is up, employment is up and illegal immigration is significantly down. Just some of his achievements.

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but he was pardoned by gerald ford

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In papa's world anything is possible.;)

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you're damn right if i'm running the show i'm running it my way :soapbox:

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The Constitution does not say that in the Presidents Power to Pardon.

The only exception it lays out is he cannot pardon in cases of impeachment.

As it stands. A sitting President cannot be indicted, so he cannot pardon himself without first facing an indictment, thus, creating a catch 22 situation.

There is nothing in the Consitution that says he cannot pardon himself, however it would create a constitutional crisis and he could be finished politically, as he can still be impeached, he could be accused of abusing Presidents power to pardon himself or possibly family.

Other charges can still be levied against him once removed from office, it would require a Pardon from Pence. But Pence has to think of his own reputation. When President Ford pardoned Nixon in 1974, he never recovered politically.

The fact that Trump is weighing up this option does not necessarily imply guilt, because he is so politically illiterate, he is showing the mentality that he is fed up of having a dark cloud over his Presidency, and is just about willing to do what he can to end this cloud. He has said he just wants to get on with the task he was elected to do, it don't help that he has a liberal media against him.

These illegal intelligence leaks to the Washington Post and New York Times need to be addressed, someone internally has them on speed dial. There is clearly Obama people still in play here.

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Wasn't Nixon pardoned ahead of any indictment? I thought it was possible to get a pardon for stuff to come.

I don't see Trump pardoning himself but I am doubtful he himself would be implicated in any of the Russia stuff as opposed to those around him - who he could pardon.

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Yes, the Nixon case set the precedent. But I don't think the Constitution is worded that way.

The limitation is that a pardon cannot be issued for a crime that has not yet been committed and the test is, has President Trump committed a crime?

As we know, the US Government is split in to three entities: Legislative (Congress), Executive branch (President) and Judicial (Supreme Court). They all check and balance each other. But the Presidential power of Pardon only applies to the Executive Branch. When a President issues a legitimate pardon it is, legally irrefutable.

So the question that would be tested if Trump attempted to Pardon himself, does the President hold so much power that he is above the law?

The Constitution would answer this as 'no'.

The United States is a Republic and they made it so that nobody is above the law, not even the President. It's not like here in the UK, where our Head of State, is above the law, her majesty, The Queen.

There have been historical attempts in Congress to limit the scope of the Presidential pardon, but every time they have failed because the power is granted in the Constitution, it's in the original document.

That said, Congress does hold one minor balance of the pardon power, this is in cases where Congress has called a witness and they have refused to give evidence, they would be in Contempt of Congress and a President does not have the privilege of pardoning in cases of contempt, the crime being pardoned has to be at federal level.

I am sure Nixon himself, was going through the motions, could he pardon himself or not?

History records he tried to hang on to his Presidency so desperately, but his political support was completely eroded and impeachment was inevitable. He sure was nudged before he was pushed.

When President Ford pardoned Nixon, in 1974, there is no evidence of a special deal being done. Ford/Nixon denied any deal was done. But I am sure there could have been a little, gentlemen agreement, where Nixon says, if I resign, the desk, the curtains, the oval office, the whole house is yours, but first I ask that you 'Pardon' me once I leave office.

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Nothing reeks of I did it more than can I pardon myself, at least that's how it looks, he should think before he tweets, this will haunt him and his presidency to now

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Come on!

He may have just been asking for "a friend"... ;)

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I think that if something has been done by Trump. It has been well and truly covered.

The only thing that wound me uop was when his own blew a kiss to the press. Smart toffee-nosed git.

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"his own" what blew a kiss???

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wot like e did guv ;)

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If he was to give himself a self pardon wouldn't he be admitting to having done wrong and end his presidency anyway. I'm really disappointed with Trump i hoped it would be the start of something good that might make it's way across the atlantic. Not all my american friends have changed their minds about Trump but there is a bigger sense of acceptance that he might be the answer they hoped but most still have hope he will turn it around. While not everyone was going to like Trump could the majority of people in the western democracies really say their politicians are ok and the political system is fine I don't think so.

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The intern picture was pretty amusing, reporter just gets laughed at then shut down. So many revelations but very little piecing of it together. Trump is likely right though, there's nothing coming of this. The media doesn't help, the way it's portrayed in the US makes it seem like a giant joke which is then picked up by the anti-Trump agenda's who portray media pieces as a smoking gun... Which thus far it hasn't been. As I'm unaware of what the daily mail of the US is, its highly likely a lot of the mediocre level stuff comes from them.

In a few years we'll be back to the US having exclusive rights to interfere in foreign elections and we can put all this behind us.

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Who knows what will come of it? It doesn't help that everything was fake news until it wasn't. We wait and see if anything comes of it, nothing itself is a smoking gun but the special counsel is continuing the investigation.

Incidentally, following on from the civilian death toll under Obama, it's only getting larger under Trump: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...e-month-syria/

Anyway tomorrow the senate is voting on repealing Obamacare altogether. It's believed they won't have the votes but if they pass that's going to be a big.

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Fake numbers remember. Of course we know they're probably not and the white house numbers have been cack for years. I think we all expected the strikes to continue and the civilian loss of life to continue. What I didn't expect was the lack of media scrutiny on it. I was certain Trump would get a hammering when the numbers started increasing. I guess current affairs may put it on the back burner.

As for Obamacare, could be the end of the 17 year stranglehold on the the US.

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Obamacare was especially terrible during the Bush Jr. Presidency...

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He is quoting Trump who made that mistake

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Sorry to be pedantic but Bill Clinton was President 17 years ago as it was year 2000. Bush Jnr, was inaugurated President 20th Jan 2001. ;)

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I was only quoting adzil who was quoting The Donald... :)

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The Donald's hair is FAKE, and that is a fact.

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I have to disagree - It's all his own, just creatively arranged... :D

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just like the news ;)

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And some corporations create their own salary structure for failing celebs and to hell with the gender pay gap. ;)

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Yes, I have to agree - how unfair is it to quote his actual tweets, speeches, and actions; just what we've come to expect from them...

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if you keep grinding that axe there won't be anything left of it ;)

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Oh you missed the retractions then from the likes of gutter press liberal crap, New York Times and CNN on stories they have done about Trump?

That the same crappy NYT is happy to post intelligence leaks (including those from other countries, like Manchester Terrorist Attack pictures !)

Not seen footage of a CNN producer admitting Russia story has nothing to it. They are happy to carry it on because it drives up ratings. That he accuses Americans own CIA of interfering in foreign elections, hell, we had that from Obama last year remember?

The Trump hysteria in the media is in meltdown, they forget stories like Obama being caught saying to the Russians, he would have more flexibility after he got elected in his 2nd term, that there are very serious concerns Obama's Administration was perhaps guilty of allegedly, serious illegal spying on its own citizens.

The news is far from balanced and you mention unfairness. Yes it is when other leaders have done, been in, or acted on controversial actions and there has been far less screaming or hysteria.

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That 'CNN admitting it's fake' is ironically from a right-wing film maker whose been caught selectively editing video is misrepresenting a left-wing group a while ago.

I mean the story about Russia hacking at all was fake until it wasn't. NYTimes leaked memo was 'fake' until Corney confirmed it was he who leaked it. The NYTimes story about Trump Jr meeting was fake until he released the e-mails.

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'Fake' obviously has a a totally different meaning in the evangelical cult that worships the Donald.
i.e. news they don't like and can't be excused away, until incontrovertible proof is provided, then call something else fake to distract from the first false 'fake' - and then repeat... (plus make up something nasty about someone else to further distract.... )

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No proof has been found and as for this Russian Lawyer meeting Don Jnr, whose visa expired but she was granted permission to stay on Obama's watch. :rolleyes:

I have no problem being biased towards the Donald. He beat the crooked Clintons and wiped that smirk off Obama's face. Hell, I would choose Corbyn over the Clintons any day and that's saying something.

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You said that before but the sentences coming from the CNN's producers mouth cannot be fabricated in such a fashion. He clearly said those words.

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I wonder when it will dawn on him that running a country is a lot different to running a business. :shocked:

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They can't be fabricated but they can be selectively edited. As he did with Acorn. This guy never releases the full tapes. The video cuts between the juicy sentences. One time they're at a table, another time they're in a hallway, another time in a lift. We don't know if he continued speaking to caveat his remarks. For example after this sentence: "could be [excrement]. I mean it's mostly [excrement] right now. Like, we don't have any big giant proof" the producer might have said "but on the other hand there is a lot of smoke, lots of small pieces". We don't know but it's highly edited from a guy who was caught pulling the same tricks previously.

But even if it was unedited it's not proof the Russia thing is made up. NYTimes might have a thing to say about that, it's not like a CNN producer's opinion is evidence of the entire story being made up by everyone in the media. I just googled this 'producer' and he is a producer of medical programs on CNN. It's not even on the team that would handle political stories.

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Trump is attacking his own AG now: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/presi...ry?id=48831375

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It sure looks like he is applying pressure on him to quit. Trump is still reeling and never was happy when Sessions recused.

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Good grief have you had a funny turn today Mick as the language was rather different last week and the week before.;):D

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I wonder when Sky news will put British news first instead of Donald Trump this and Donald Trump that.

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US Senate passes vote to pass the motion to debate the Republican Healthcare act which is said to be aiming for repealing and replacing Obamacare.

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48 hours until the vote now. We'll also get to see what is actually going to be in the bill, is it repeal and replace with the Republican plan or just scrapping Obamacare.

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Ironically enough, the first step in taking away healthcare from 22 million Americans was passed by the vote from a Senator (McCain) who was recovering from life-saving surgery provided by state-funded healthcare.

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The senate voted down the 'most comprehensive' version of their health bills last night, a few more to go before the final one tomorrow. Even the one yesterday had Medicare (i.e not Obamacare but the last resort, government funded, healthcare) cuts. There is a suggestion they might end up with some minor revisions just so they can say they passed something then throw it back to the house.

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Trump has announced via Twitter that Transgenders will not be allowed to serve in the US Military, in any capacity. He has made the decision based on consultation with Military chiefs.

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Pretty big thing to announce on Twitter. Wonder if he is attempting to distract American attention from the health care vote.

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There are apparently nearly 2000 Transgenders all ready serving in their forces.

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Raw prejudice IMO and a backward step when we are supposed to be going forward.

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It's a massive deflection. Trump seems to operate with as much chaos as possible. Create a new fight to distract from the last one - healthcare.

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Absolutely, but he's very amateurish with the smoke and mirrors.

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The senate has rejected the complete repeal now as well.

Looks like they're going for a minor repeal, i.e tax of medical devices and some parts of the mandate to buy insurance, rather than all of it. I am not sure how you can get rid of the mandate though because that's how coverage for pre-existing conditions can work, otherwise everyone waits until they're sick to get healthcare.

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'We're here, we're queer, we hate the f****** president': Furious protests erupt in New York, DC and San Francisco after Trump bans transgender people from the military
Coast to coast protests broke out Wednesday night after Trump bans transgender people from the military

seem's cardboard is out now it's laminated banners

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I'm sure I can see Ozzie Osborne in those images ;)

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A letter from the US Military's Chief of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (the highest ranking military officer in the US).

http://hill.cm/w6wqj4u

Trump previously tweeted Looks like he missed someone out of his "consultation"...

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Basically he woke up, tweeted something outrageous, and so far nothing has been communicated officially. This is the President of the United States, declaring policy on twitter which he hasn't told anyone of yet.

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Outrageous because this reeks of discrimination?

There is plenty of conditions and physical attributes which prevent someone from joining the army and yes, it's a form of discrimination but not necessarily unlawful discrimination.

Over the next 10 years, military experts in the US have said military spending on transgender operations and subsequent follow up long term medical treatment and medication will cost in excess over a billion dollars. Is this a reasonable cost for a institution that it's sole purpose to exist, is to protect and defend the US? (And let's not forget it's allies around the world).

Also, you have to question the fairness in a transgendic person who can get Military funding to have their bits surgically removed, yet a soldier with cancer is denied funds for cancer drugs and also very likely dismissed from the army.

Obama deliberately changed this policy at the 11th hour just before leaving office, because it would be the Trump Administration that would have to deal with it.

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Don't we have transgender people in the army without a problem? It appears the US has as well.

I don't know where the 'billion dollars' comes from. According to this it's much less: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...ldiers/534945/

But if that is such an outrageous cost then don't cover it in the army but still allow transgender members to serve. People have already pointed out the irony that a man who repeatedly dodged the draft gets to tell others they can't serve.

Trump might well succeed but the policy will fail in the long run. Every ban on minority groups in the army eventually does. First it was ethnic minorities, then it was homosexuals and if Trump wants to extend that to transgender servicemen then that will only get overturned later.

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'Skinny Repeal' also fails with John McCain casting the decisive vote.

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It seems McConnell only revealed the plan with three hours to go!

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The Alaska senator who drew Trump's disapproval still voted no. Apparently because of the remoteness of the state and further still the wide distribution of people in it healthcare is normally crazy expensive without government subsidy.

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Trump has just tweeted to let it implode which it will. Americans will suffer with sky high increases, the Affordable Care act that's not Affordable LOL.

But this is only half a story. New communication chief, Antony Scaramucci using colourful language in a foul mouth rant and dissing Steve Bannon and Priebus. I won't repeat what he said here but they are not 'getting on'.

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But this one would have removed the mandate, meaning people wouldn't have to get insurance. The healthy people are the compromise to allowing pre-existing conditions to have been covered. So the cost for many would have ballooned even further.

Obamacare won't fail unless they removed the government subsidy for the exchanges.

The problem here is that people want to keep their health insurance but it be cheaper. Every version of the Republican plan would have reduced the number of people insured.

If they want cheaper care they need to move to a European style single-payer system

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Trump has just tweeted to let it implode which it will. Americans will suffer with sky high increases, the Affordable Care act that's not Affordable LOL.

But this is only half a story. New communication chief, Antony Scaramucci using colourful language in a foul mouth rant and dissing Steve Bannon and Priebus. I won't repeat what he said here but they are not 'getting on'.

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But this bill would have made even bigger increases. If you remove the mandate to get insurance but keep coverage for pre-existing conditions the insurance would explode. It would be like you saying you don't need to get car insurance until you get into an accident. Insurance is meant to pool the risk, to do that you need healthy people.

Every version of the Republican bills would have increased costs and cut the numbers of people insured. This was never about making healthcare cheaper, they simply wanted Obamacare gone and the government allocation of cash to it moved to tax cuts.

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I saw that, it's to the New Yorker if anyone else is interested.

I think it's Scaramucci appealing to Trump who likes that kind of aggression and media hype.

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Just reading reaction from some Republican voters. They spewing venom towards the 3 Republican Senators. McCain especially. But saw one man say his Heathcare bills for his family have risen 5 x its original cost, says it's now $18,000 a year for his family of six. :erm:

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Ok. How will the bills over the last three days brought costs down?

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I'm not saying it did. The whole thing is a mess. McCain preached the day he came back that they never get things done because of Partisan politics, then he sides with the devil party by voting with them.

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Any idea how much he earned?

Low to middle income earners are subsidised under Obamacare.

http://www.financialsamurai.com/subs...act-obamacare/

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He said he wants to work with them to gain agreement.

Obamacare was based on Romneycare/Heritage Foundation research, but because it was implemented by the Democrats, Republicans tried to destroy it, .

Working across the aisles takes two sides, and Republicans spent the last 8 years saying 'No'.

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Surely he has just proven that he isn't partisan by voting down a bad bill even if that means siding with the Democrats.

This bill would have revoked the individual mandate and defund Planned Parenthood. Even Democrats accept Obamacare is flawed, even Obama has said it's flawed, but the core of it remains popular: people should have health insurance and have pre-existing conditions covered.

Instead of finding a way to fix it's flaws the Republicans sought to undermine the principle entirely. They're a party of small government and fundamentally do not believe the government should be involved in healthcare, which forcing people to get insurance is doing. They were caught between the desire to revoke it entirely from the likes of Rand Paul to people who worried about the consequences of taking away healthcare.

Trump, who promised a better Obamacare, seemed to show little interest in the detail.

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Seems McCain came good in the end. I've got respect from politicians from any side, that vote with their convictions and what they know to be right, rather than be bullied and tow the party line. Unfortunately politicians like this are in the minority, but that's all it takes sometimes, as our own PM will find out.

Looks like the Donald is hoping healthcare will collapse to teach the people a lesson. Nice of him ! So, no wall, no heath care reform, what else can this president not deliver ? His Twitter account should be suspended for being offensive, libelous codswallop, it'd be for his own good.

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President Trump given £1.2BILLION for Mexican border wall

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...epresentatives

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/27/po...ney/index.html

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its going to cost 15bn and how many bricks have been layed ? He'll need a lot.

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Actually, a 'down payment' think I saw $1.6 billion was approved by House of Representatives yesterday. The wall is going ahead.

Get facts right springs to mind, but always does with you. :rolleyes:

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No locking her up, I seem to remember a long time ago on Larry king live he promised not to rename the White House if he ever became president, I'm confident he'll deliver on that.