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Ok, you may not like the source but that doesn't necessarily make it wrong. Don't forget that Breitbart reported the New Years sexual assaults/rapes a week before anyone else dared to, What about the story it's reporting now?

and whilst we are on the subject, when are you going to delete the guardian from your favourites? It's a muddle headed, libtard, socialist puddle of bilge. ;)

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I don't know what breibrat is but i know from my own personal experience that behaviour when they are on their own or even two or three is very different to how they behave once they have numbers. Last thirty years have been an unpleasant eye opening for me in relation to a certain community that i once fought to defend and have had to face the reality that integration and becoming part of our society is not on their agenda. I've seen them mock this country for it's laid back attitudes and even to the supplying of translators to aid them it's seen as a sign that we are weak. I think given the choice I'd have preferred to keep the naive hopeful view i had in the mid to late eighties rather then the jaded more prejudiced view i have now.

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Don't forget that it's not your fault that you are prejudiced and jaded.

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I'd delete both personally

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Yeah but, yeah but...

:rolleyes:

It's much easier to avoid debate and deflect attention away from contentious issues by rubbishing the sources. It's long been the loony left's stock in trade...

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Which is what Mr K has done since he's not actually commented on the story :shrug: :rolleyes:

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Anything from Breibart isn't worthy of comment, and 'story' is the operative word.

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Gee, that's an easy way to ignore news that you would rather not deal with. :rolleyes:

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Yep, pretty pathetic really but it's to be expected from those who have no argument.

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No one publication gives the whole story they play to a demographic and if anyone wants the whole story they will have to research many publications.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38103375

This'll focus a few minds but at least the EU brotherhood of nations is at one on this issue eh?

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Erdogan has become a despot. If you are against him, in his eyes you are an enemy of Turkey. And about half the country are against him, many now incarcerated for their views.

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Other than that I'm certain he's someone the EU can reliably do business with...

:rolleyes:

Another reason to be out of the 'club' IMHO.

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So let me get this right...
We don't want immigrants coming into 'our' country
But Turkey shouldn't let them leave their country

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For many, Turkey is the first Safe Haven, and it's close enough for them to return home from when it's all calmed down and they can start to rebuild.

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So he's a despot with half the country against him, but it's perfectly safe for immigrants ?


Sounds like 'doesn't matter where they go so long as it's not here'

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Well supposedly since the EU referendum migrants and EU citizens are not safe here in the UK so best they stay in Turkey then come here.

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... and since the UK has clearly become even more of a hotbed of ultra right wing hate crime and xenophobia since the Brexit vote, I expect we'll soon be seeing a mass exodus of foreigners from these shores before it's too late. Yes, they'll all be heading back to the mainland EU where there is no hate crime, no xenophobia, no right wing extremism and where there's a universal welcome to outsiders...

I do wonder sometimes at how the sort of unpleasant events and behaviour we see in the UK directed at certain minority/migrant groups are compared with the sort of behaviour which is evident across Europe which so many people here seem to turn a blind eye to when it suits their argument.

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Now there's a surprise... :rolleyes:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38167225

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With the consequent result:

Ambulance target failures highlight NHS crisis, say health chiefs

Having a million extra patients every 3 years does wonders for an already overstreached NHS.:rolleyes:

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Come on now, 350,000 extra people every year has no impact on the NHS in just the same way that it has no impact on homelessness, other public services, the environment, transport etc. etc.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-38157410

It's not as if these extra people ever need health services or housing is it?... :rolleyes:

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It takes a lot to make someone leave a country. Nazi Germany was obviously far worse than anything we're seeing here and yet there were many persecuted groups who remained until it was too late. There are costs involved, the emotional distress of leaving your home and life, family ties and more.

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There was a feature about this on the BBC earlier today that said that there is also evidence to show that they are no longer prepared to do the hard to fill vacancies in the UK eg fruit picking.

I think that immigration can have some benefits to us (though the disadvantages outweigh them), but if they're going to start being choosy about what work is expected of them, then this is one less benefit that they can offer and even less of a reason to allow them in.

After watching the BBC season on Black Britain, I feel the same about the black people coming here in the fifties.

This was only ever meant to be a stop gap to help us out with hard to fill vacancies and they were then expected to go home.

In the end they stayed and started expecting (and got) the right to be the bus driver instead of the conductor.

This was not the original agreement or plan.

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Many entering Turkey are of the same religious flavour and disposition as himself and his supporters.

---------- Post added at 16:53 ---------- Previous post was at 16:50 ----------

I met an ex-neighbour today. He was "temporarily" housing 2 other recently-arrived immigrant families in his private-rented home until the landlord found out.

Now that's 3 immigrant families homeless. And there are no free homes to rent that they can afford or who will take them on.

He said there is a rush to get in and have babies before the cut-off point for Benefits next Spring.

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There my be 650.000 migrants that have come here. But what about the illegals that have entered the country and disappeared.
I think the government need there heads examined. Wee don't have Corbyn challenging this.
What we have here is a situation where, when employers will use the migrant crisis, as a great way to employ staff at a vastly reduced wage.

Gone are the days when employers will look for staff and pay a paltry wage of 13 grans a year. As they will know that a migrant will take.

Its extra pressure on the NHS - and before people say it wont. Look at this fact. At the moment, the NHS is in deep crisis. And cannot cope with the extra pressure at A/E. N beds etc etc.

If a Migrant becomes ill they will go straight t A/E and use it.

No l think its about time that we close the borders, until such time that the Government get a hold of this crisis. And Corbyn pulls his finger out and challenge the Government on the Migrant problem

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Aren't there any celebrities that'll take them in, lil allen, boneo, the Pope

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Taf friend is the pope

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...or bob geldof, gary lineker, benedict cumberbatch, endless other luvvies...

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He's one person that I ignore totally.

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Nah they're far too busy feathering their own luxurious nests and combining lecturing the rest of us on generosity of spirit with yet more PR opportunities to boost their own egos and bank balances.

---------- Post added at 10:58 ---------- Previous post was at 10:55 ----------

Yes but he flew out a couple of families to Rome remember. Such selflessness... :rolleyes:

I believe no refugees have been directly supported by the Vatican.

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You're right and it's another thing of which the British public have had a guts full. Change is gonna come :)

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For change to come, you need something different to what has gone before, what would that be?

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Conditions in Nazi Germany were a tad different from those prevailing here and people were prevented from moving on a massive scale. That was still happening in the post WWII years between E and W Germany. It's never been easier for migrants to move within the EU and accordingly they've chosen to come here in huge numbers. If these people agree with the like of the Guardian that the UK is a hostile place to be then there's very little stopping them leaving to go back and every reason for them not to come here in the first place. The numbers prove that's not happening so maybe the UK isn't the hotbed of right wing extremism that some folks seem waste no opportunity portraying it as. There are costs emotional and financial costs involved in everything. That's life and ever increasing numbers of people are deciding that life in the UK is worth all that. The UK is far from perfect but there's a great deal more racism and right wing extremism either endemic or growing fast across Europe than there is here.

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Yep the way some talk you'd think we had gangs of brownshirts walking the streets clubbing anyone that looks like an immigrant and getting together in town\city centres to burn some books. The often mentioned thing is the supposed increase in reports of racially motivated attacks following brexit and that was proof that we were closet right wingers. I'd be curious how many of those reports ever went further then the report stage and i doubt the number would be very high.

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Celebrity luvvies (and their ilk) will be stomped on by Leave voters who are to be issued with new jackboots for the purpose. Zat vill change things for gut ;)

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The point about the Nazis wasn't to compare scale but that even the most extreme circumstances people don't always leave their homes. In Germany they did have chances to leave but many didn't (ditto East Germany btw, before the wall) and then it was eventually too late when they made it harder. There is an intense human instinct to remain where you've built your life. When you say there is little stopping them leaving it's true logically but not emotionally. People put up with a lot.

I agree with you that the UK doesn't have as big a problem with racism as some other countries in Europe although I would caution that as White Britons we're not in a great position to make such judgements. I don't think we're a hotbed of right wing extremism but I do think it's a problem we need to keep an eye on. Part of the reason for it is we're vigilant about it, people are quick to call out. We should remain so and so rather than compare ourselves to other nations we should compare to our own values and if we seem someone acting against that then we put a stop to it.

The Brexit vote was not racist. Most Brexit voters are not racist. There did seem to be an increase in xenophobic incidents after the referendum because some people are stupid and thought it meant something it didn't. Brexiters or Remainers these people needed to be clear they were in a minority and they do not have likeminded friends in either camp.

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Migrant Arrested After Rape and Murder of EU Official’s Teen Daughter
:(

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Tragic. Sadly it's not the first and won't be the last example of a 'refugee' repaying their hosts in this manner and their victims are the collateral damage of a flawed system which allows plenty of people in but clearly doesn't provide the means to support them. We're admitting all sorts of people into our western society, some of whom are highly dubious characters who have been involved in criminal activity and other highly unpleasant behaviour that we certainly don't need more of here. No, it's not always their fault either - we can't blame, for example, young boys who've been turned into killers by extremists of one sort of another but what resources are going to be available to these damaged individuals when they get here? Have the resources allocated to mental health treatment and associated services in the UK ever been under greater pressure? I'd submit the epidemic of suicides amongst young men is testament to the scale of the problem and the lack of help available to our own citizens let alone anyone else. It's all very well giving refuge to needy or traumatised people but unless huge extra resources are made available to treat them over quite possibly many years, we're just storing up more trouble. As it is, once again it's our existing needy who bear the brunt of the pressure on scare resources not the professional do-gooders and maybe that explains the growing resentment we're seeing across Europe.

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The situation is worse than it first appears, although net migration into the UK is around 350,000 what were actually seeing is the departure of healthy, law abiding UK citizens to be replaced by over 650,000 potentially less healthy and law abiding immigrants annually.

No wonder our social services and NHS are buckling.

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Add in that a recent report said what many of us have known for a while that immigrant communities segregate themselves from the wider british society and that will create more problems in the future. Most immigration systems that are in place in western countries were just not designed to handle the level we are currently experiencing and a brake needs to be applied till we can get a system in place. Any crime by an immigrant should mean automatic deportation with the host country deciding if it's before or after a custodial sentence as they are clearly not the type of person any decent country wants.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38226081

Sounds very right wing xenophobic to me after that nice 'welcome to all' which was such a good idea at the time... :rolleyes:

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Election time looming for her...... so she is trying to appease those swinging to the right...

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Of course they won't, our soft councils give them free housing and the benefits sytem gives them mega handouts that the likes of you and I can only dream about.

They are supposed to stop at the first country they come that can house them, last time I checked to get here means coming through/past Greece, Italy, Germany, France, Belgium etc....

...or they could of course go to those great examples of Muslim hospitality like say Saudi Arabia.

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I read in one newspaper today, that in one part of the UK. Romanian Gangs are terrorising a City so much that the City is divided.

Now we take the migrants into this country. And this is how they treat the UK

Not sure what newspaper - but it was todays.

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Report on paper today (one of the free online main titles) that some Muslim community leader says that it's the responsibility of the white British people to integrate themselves into the immigrant community.

Really? You chose to come here, don't like it, leave.

While living here you adopt our customs and laws.

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Linky

Remind me how many of these "children" we're welcoming into our country?

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You mean all the 'children' people like Lily Allen were so keen to bring here from Calais? The sort of 'children' Yvette Cooper, Bob Geldof and countless other pious, bandwagon jumping, hypocrites publicly offered to house but never did, preferring to leave the entire burden of what they said they'd do to everyone else? People like them always seem to have a lot to say about helping these people but little or nothing to say about horrific events such as these. Countless crimes, rapes and murders which come as a direct and entirely predictable result of a chaotic, unfit for purpose immigration 'system' which all too often rewards people who have no respect for the rules and our laws and is resulting in long term damage to our society.

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Roma vs Kurds in the City Rd area of Cardiff.

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The laws in this country are a total farce. To me IF, you come to this Country. And break the Law. You go to the toughest prison going - is there won. I think Dartmoor is a tough one. As if you try to escape. You are miles from nowhere.

Then Once your sentence. You are taken t the Airport and put on the plane home. Or WILL that be against the Human Rights.

IF. We went to there Country, we would probably spend the rest of our life behind bars. We should that in this Country. This Country is lawless

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Now, now, less of these racist attitudes :nono: :D

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Sorry, it's all Breitbart's fault...


;)

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Back in June we had a report on the cost of translators for Leeds teaching hospitals only and this was to cover 6 weeks with a total cost of 82k

So imagine the costs nationwide. Not inc any treatment they have that isn't paid for

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Far as i'm concerned if your a resident of the UK you either should learn to speak english or take a relative who can but this translator gravy boat going on has to stop it's ridiculous given the extent of it.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38249570

No sign of any right wing extremism on the boil in France then. There was I thinking that the UK was the hotbed of all things xenophobic with people heading off to liberal Europe in droves... :rolleyes:

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And read English too. My (foreign) wife has never been offered a translation service, they always tell her to bring someone to do the job for her. But if she wasn't western European she can get translation services immediately. :confused:

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600 ‘Underage’ Migrants Turn Out to Be Adults
Migrant Sex Attacks Increased 133 Per Cent This Year (Austria)

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How about we skip the bit where we keep them in prison at 2k a week and just take them straight to the airport :D

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Send them to colchester military prison (think they now call it a rehabilitation centre) then deport them the tales they will tell should put off a good few from trying to come here.

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How about we don't, call me a mad, delusional, fool but I kinda like serious criminals to be doing jail time rather than getting a free flight to the destination of their choice

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It'll take a good deal to put these people off - so many have got through stayed here years totally illegally and even then been allowed to stay for one reason or another. Truth is these guys know that if they can get here, the chances are they won't be caught or sent back anywhere and they'll be a whole lot better off than they would have been back home. I don't think we can do much about the draw factor, the best we can do is catch more of them and be much tougher about who we allow to stay. Until we do that the numbers will continue to grow as will the attendant social problems.

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If you can guarantee it's *hard* labour for 20hrs a day, with no tv, library or ANY privileges whatsoever then fair enough....else get them out of here.

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Don't understand why you don't want criminals to be punished :confused:

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Don't see why we should pay £100k a year to keep them in jail (comfy hotel) was the point.

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About £33k per prisoner per year.

https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...-per-place.pdf[COLOR="Silver"]

I think you will find most jails are not 'comfy hotels'...

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About the same as B&B in a premier inn everyday then.

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I know two prison officers (Cat B) and life for the cons is cushy. Go to hospital or doctor? No queue for you, immediately in, bypassing us mugs who have been waiting for hours.

Smash up your telly, immediate replacement, I could go on...

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And they have no agenda....

Doesn't change the fact it doesn't cost £100k per year per prisoner

You're entitled to your opinion, but facts are facts.

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Well on the doctors front i've had more then one consultant's appointment cancelled as I've been sitting in the waiting room because of a prisoner needing to be seen straight away. All the prison officers i know granted it's only about twenty all state that prisoners have it way way too easy now compared to thirty years ago. A christmas menu was leaked last year and the poor sod's had to make do with vichyssoise and prawn cocktail for starters and fillet mignon and lobster for entree yeah life is hell for them these days.

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Does that include to cost of building the facility and training staff? Some estimates given for incarceration are ludicrous

Really?

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...s-9944302.html


Again really

http://www.russellwebster.com/13-thi...istmas-dinner/

It's been many years since I worked with young offenders, ex offenders and drug addicts but I can assure you they were more mingy than fillet mignon

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Given the squalor the thousands of 'refugees' in Calais decided they'd rather endure for years than registering in France, I'd say it'd be hard to come up with a detention regime which would be harsher or more of a deterrent. As long as these people believe they will be better off here and able to use the system (or lack of it) to their advantage (something they clearly feel they can't do in places like France) they'll keep coming here. The best we can do to keep the numbers under control is make sure more are apprehended, detained and deported so the message that the UK isn't an easy touch slowly gets across. It's a nonsense that large numbers of illegals are arrested then allowed to just wander off and disappear into the black economy.

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According to an article in the Sunday Times (paywall) some of the 'child refugees' brought to the UK from Calais have already disappeared.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/uk...nish-q6xxrt706

There are totally unwarranted fears that they've been drawn into illegality, child slavery, prostitution etc. but I reckon they've just had enough of HMG's 'hospitality' and are making their way to Lily Allen's gaff for a party with Bob and his celebrity chums.

Who'd have thought eh? Quelle surprise!

Seriously, it shows how out of touch they are that the great and the good who're always so keen for the UK to take in these people don't seem to appreciate the terrible reality that awaits them here with the obvious lack of govt. support and of course all those 'sincere' offers of housing which were so quickly forgotten by those who so piously issued them.

The UK clearly already has a massive problem in safeguarding the welfare of its own needy and vulnerable children (and indeed adults, including the mentally ill) so what on Earth made anyone think that somehow HMG would step up a gear for these migrants? What made them think that new resources would come out of thin air and the family ties we heard so much about would prove as robust as it was claimed by those who cited them? Maybe the problem is that nobody amongst the powerful elite and celebrity luvvies actually thought it through, much less let themselves get directly involved in the aftermath of what they helped create. Does anyone think these people are losing any sleep over this?

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"Child refugees" disappearing has been going on for ages.

There was a documentary where an immigration officer was telling telling somebody that their documents were bogus and they wouldn't be let in, but on the other hand if they said they were under 16 they would be let in. Guess what happened next? Yep, they lied, they were let in, placed in care, and then skipped. This was not undercover or covert filming, but totally out in the open.

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Yes it has and has been raised before in this (and other) threads. The problem is that we have a group of influential people for whom that doesn't matter either because they're thick or because they have another agenda, well meaning or otherwise. These people use the same false and flawed arguments every time situations such as this arise. First they try to shout down as racist anyone who opposes their views. Then they make ridiculous claims like 'they won't be here long and most of them will go back home to rebuild', then they tell us 'they're vulnerable children who need our help'. When they've been here a while and it's time to go home and rebuild they tell us it's not fair send anyone back because they've put down roots here. When the entirely foreseeable happens and they start getting into to trouble in significant numbers they then tell us it's our fault and we need to do more, provide more etc. They use the same arguments repeatedly no matter what the outcome because the truth is they're not as concerned about the effects on the ordinary people of the UK as they are in pursuing their goal which if left unchallenged will sooner or later ruin this country for those of us who aren't shielded from the fallout by our wealth and rich mates.

We need to remind these people there is a price to be paid and maybe someone from HMG ought to start tell those who so proudly promised to offer refuge that they need to start delivering on their promises because to do otherwise would be the most appalling hypocrisy. Maybe the BBC could do a documentary about all the rich luvvies who promised to do their bit but didn't. The trouble is too many of them have jumped on the bandwagon themselves and it'd all be too embarrassing...

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Lovely thing to do, big mouthed celebrities who can afford it should remember actions speak louder than words

http://www.indcatholicnews.com/news.php?viewStory=31525

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Yeah, Big Issue sellers, scrap metal collectors, clothing for "charities" collectors, car hand washers and the homes they occupy from Buy-To-Let owners.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-38280118

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Does she* live in an ivory tower?


* corrected in the interests of sexual equality.

(men don't have the monopoly on stupidity.... :D)

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"She" does I think ;)

But she probably refers to it as "twr ifori" ;)

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Isn't that a trendy cafe bar in Islington?

Lol :D

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38265684

I wonder how robust the asylum process will be? What incentive does Greece have not to just rubber stamp virtually every application and let these people head off to where they want to go - anywhere but Greece where they system is overwhelmed? :confused:

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38225712

God only knows where we'd be if we didn't have robust immigration controls eh?

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38359934

Who could have predicted this? :shrug:

:rolleyes:

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French police need to keep on top of dismantling that or they'll be back to a full camp in a few months.

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French charities (and it is understood British also) are supplying the tents, etc. according to many French media outlets.

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Yes they are bound to do that.

I think many of these people have convinced themselves that the UK alone will offer them what they want and until they get here and find out for themselves, they won't accept anything else and will carry on trying. The UK is a place where it's easy to work under the radar and even if you get caught, the chances are you'll be released and allowed to disappear again. Until we change that, the problem will continue and grow.

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Given the latest news from Berlin that the person who's been apprehended for the lorry attack there is a Pakistani asylum seeker*, I wonder whether ultimately it'll be the actions of migrant murderers, rapists and criminals which ultimately force our dithering governments to get tough on porous borders, illegal immigration and the widespread abuse of the asylum system. Notwithstanding the actions of our very own home bred ****, it'd have been far better if our glorious leaders had listened to common sense years ago but for some reason that was beyond them and now they're trying to put a genie back in a bottle and ordinary people going about their lawful business are the collateral damage.


* Not yet charged.

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Merkel must be counting the days until she loses power and can hand it all off to someone else to deal with.

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I really don't think she is. I reckon she still doesn't accept reality. She's been in power too long and we all know what happens - they start to believe their own rhetoric and can't accept they're ever wrong. The comments she's made recently are all about shooting the right's fox nothing more. I don't think she'll ever accept what she did when she welcomed all those unknown faces into Europe.

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She's probably got a nicely feathered nest in some bolt-hole in the sun.

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Don't they all? I bet it won't be close to a refugee centre either.

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A nice refugee camp somewhere ought to fit the bill :D

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Just to show how much he listens to the public farron's christmas message is about how the UK should open it's doors for more child refugees to come in and after the last lot we let in who could have any objections :rolleyes:. We have a property market that's fast becoming beyond most people's means our national infrastructure is close to breaking point and morons like him would still have an open door policy letting in whoever and doing more damage. Political opposition is essential in a democracy but how the hell did we end up with the pathetic opposition we currently have led by idiots.

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They're totally out of touch with the lives and problems of ordinary people, just like the Eurocrats who're so wedded to their single state pipe-dream that they can't/won't see common sense.

I've just heard some Europol figure on TV claiming that open borders doesn't have a negative impact on security. Honestly it's quite bizarre that they still peddle this utter claptrap.

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Libtard of the day award would seem to go to Hamburg Justice Minister Till Steffen: German Politician Prevented Police Sharing Image of Christmas Market Attacker

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The Tunisian failed asylum seeker had already spent time in jail for burning down a migrant centre in Italy and armed robbery in Tunisia but I don't suppose any of that should have coloured anyone's view of the risk he posed. :rolleyes:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/world...-a3426166.html

How many more budding terrorists and murdering **** like him are on the loose in Europe now I wonder?

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Sadly, we'll never know. We'll only hear about the ones who are successful...

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Perhaps they're all translators to

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/748...-calais-jungle

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38486584

Never mind, I imagine most of them are vulnerable women and children... :rolleyes:

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Linky

If racial profiling prevents rapes then what is the problem? This "type" have proven last year to be trouble and were obviously waiting for the same opportunity this time.

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 

Thank God for the 'type' of immigrant we get in this country. They do all the crappy work we can't be arsed to do.