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andy_m 25-10-2013 21:25

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35636857)
I suppose it comes down to what you enjoy.

I pay £10.00 per month for Boxnation because I love boxing. I can understand why others would think £10.00 per month for a non-HD channel dedicated to boxing is a rip off.

For some Premier Sports coverage of Nascar and NHL is worth £9.99 per month.

I know your a big fan of the horses Den. Die hard racing fans probably think Racing UK is a must at £20.00 per month whilst other would think :shocked: :D

The thing is, Premier Sports isn't a dedicated NHL or Nascar channel, it just happens to have those rights. You pay for Box Nation on the basis of their unspoken promise that they'll do everything they can to provide top boxing action and relevant programming. Premier's rights portfolio is too thinly spread for them to make the same offer to individual fans of any of the sports they show.

vincerooney 25-10-2013 21:30

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35636847)
It seems those good old Sky customers have short memory's then.

£9.99 is just absolutely a rip off as in my mind as a more reasonable price would be around £4.99 per month.

agreed. isnt that the price for espn last season? its coverage including football and american sports on espn america is laughlingly more in depth than premier sport. they really arent helping themselves with that price

spiderplant 25-10-2013 21:40

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35636862)
compared to tobacco and alcohol and many other things it certainly represents better value.

We all have different values. I'm perfectly happy to pay £20 for a decent bottle of wine, but I certainly wouldn't pay it for a TV channel.

Chad 25-10-2013 22:12

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35636869)
The thing is, Premier Sports isn't a dedicated NHL or Nascar channel, it just happens to have those rights. You pay for Box Nation on the basis of their unspoken promise that they'll do everything they can to provide top boxing action and relevant programming. Premier's rights portfolio is too thinly spread for them to make the same offer to individual fans of any of the sports they show.

Very true.

Premier Sports has always felt like a cross between Eurosport and ESPN America.

Premier Sports have a history of grabbing one off events to help sell their channels. In the past they've grabbed the rights for Rangers, Celtic and Motherwell playing in the qualifying stages of Europe. They've also landed one of boxing events too. I have no idea what Virgin will be paying Premier Sports over the next few months however I wouldn't be surprised to see Premier Sports snapping up some decent random events.

alwaysabear 25-10-2013 22:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35636869)
The thing is, Premier Sports isn't a dedicated NHL or Nascar channel, it just happens to have those rights. You pay for Box Nation on the basis of their unspoken promise that they'll do everything they can to provide top boxing action and relevant programming. Premier's rights portfolio is too thinly spread for them to make the same offer to individual fans of any of the sports they show.

That sums up what I think about Premier Sports.

RichardCoulter 25-10-2013 22:49

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35636845)
Been following a conversation on Twitter between a Virgin Media customer and Premier Sports.

Virgin Customer: "absolutely over the moon about this. We have the xl package so will we have to pay for it next year?"

Premier Sports: "at some point yes."

Virgin Customer: "any idea how much it will be?"

Premier Sports: "probably same as SKY. £9.99 p/m"

And in reply to SKY customers kicking up a fuss about being free on Virgin Media:

Premier Sports: "we were free for 3-4 months on SKY back in 2010."

Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35636847)
It seems those good old Sky customers have short memory's then.

£9.99 is just absolutely a rip off because in my mind a more reasonable price would be around £4.99 per month.

Media boy has been given information that says the price will be £7.99 a month.

It wouldn't be the first time that an outsider has more accurate information than staff of the company in question.

It looks like the improved offer that I referred to and speculated would result in a lower subscription cost has come to fruition.

This deal was done really quickly, I wouldn't be surprised if this channel is currently being carried at no cost to either party, with the finer details being sorted out later.

Also, doing it this way allows customers to "try before they buy", which might ally the fears of Premier Sport that they wouldn't get enough subscribers to make launching a standalone channel economically viable. The 20% discount compared to satellite subscriptions won't harm take up rates either.

Premier Sports are obviously hoping that the opportunity to showcase their channel will drive up subscriber numbers, but people on here don't seem to be too impressed so far.

I believe that both parties will be monitoring the performance of the channel until the end of the year before deciding upon a long term business model for the channel, so this does not rule out PS going into XL.

Chad 25-10-2013 23:12

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35636893)
I believe that both parties will be monitoring the performance of the channel until the end of the year before deciding upon a long term business model for the channel, so this does not rule out PS going into XL.

I think you could be spot on

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Looks like the Champions League rights might cost SKY a fortune:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/m...e-worries.html

"BT lost ground earlier in the week on worries it will not recoup the £450m a year it is spending to go up against BSkyB in sports broadcasting. Yesterday, however, investors were weighing the potential damage the rivalry might inflict on Sky."

"analysts at Macquarie warned that the company should expect “fierce competition” in the forthcoming bidding process for the pay-TV rights to broadcast Champions League matches from 2015 to 2018. They estimated the price Sky will pay to secure the rights will rise 70pc, which would knock the company’s 2016 estimated earnings by 4pc."

It looks like SKY Sports might start to get really expensive in the next 12 to 24 months.

I thought breaking up football rights and giving the consumer choice was supposed to be a good thing? All I'm seeing is evidence of crazy bidding wars that's just going to push up subscription prices up over and over again.

vincerooney 25-10-2013 23:19

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35636895)
I think you could be spot on

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Looks like the Champions League rights might cost SKY a fortune:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/m...e-worries.html

"BT lost ground earlier in the week on worries it will not recoup the £450m a year it is spending to go up against BSkyB in sports broadcasting. Yesterday, however, investors were weighing the potential damage the rivalry might inflict on Sky."

"analysts at Macquarie warned that the company should expect “fierce competition” in the forthcoming bidding process for the pay-TV rights to broadcast Champions League matches from 2015 to 2018. They estimated the price Sky will pay to secure the rights will rise 70pc, which would knock the company’s 2016 estimated earnings by 4pc."

It looks like SKY Sports might start to get really expensive in the next 12 to 24 months.

I thought breaking up football rights and giving the consumer choice was supposed to be a good thing? All I'm seeing is evidence of crazy bidding wars that's just going to push up subscription prices up over and over again.

Yes footballing rights in this country are a disgrace and one either thinks its complete incompetence by the anti competition authorities or something a bit more corrupt.

Before it was just sky sports we had to buy to see english football. The competition authorities then decided this was naughty and not good for us. Meaning most people now have to pay an extra tenner to see all of the football and sky sports have increased their prices even more so.

Well done to all involved in that. With the highest ticket prices as well people in england sure do have to spend a lot to watch football.

I wish i was german. Ten quid a ticket to go see hertha berlin

jfman 25-10-2013 23:26

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Competition is a good thing but right now we are not seeing true competition. We are seeing two near monopolists in different markets "compete" in markets that aren't genuinely competitive, using their massive profits and market power to pass it onto consumers rather than eat into their profit margins.

Vince raises a point above. In Germany all of the top 2 tier games are televised and therefore television competes with actual attendance - reducing prices at grounds and television isn't viewed as anti-competitive.

harry_hitch 25-10-2013 23:52

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35636869)
The thing is, Premier Sports isn't a dedicated NHL or Nascar channel, it just happens to have those rights. You pay for Box Nation on the basis of their unspoken promise that they'll do everything they can to provide top boxing action and relevant programming. Premier's rights portfolio is too thinly spread for them to make the same offer to individual fans of any of the sports they show.

Whilst I fully understand your point, I am not sure if I agree entirely andy. Having scooted through the Premier Sports listings, it appears that they have a bit more content for NHL and NASCAR than just the games/races. They show a nightly show dedicated to NHL also, as well a pre-show for NASCAR.

Their listings are rather skewed at the moment too, because they are currently filled with RLWC fixtures and highlights.

On another note, I do not see how BT Sports can be seen any differently. There is very little to nothing extra (other than live programming) for tennis, rugby, baseball or Australian and/or MLS football fans. Even when had a bit T20 cricket, there was nothing but live games and highlights. They seem to want to pile their schedule with additional Premier League and european football companion pieces.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35636895)
I think you could be spot on

---------- Post added at 22:12 ---------- Previous post was at 21:53 ----------

Looks like the Champions League rights might cost SKY a fortune:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/m...e-worries.html

"BT lost ground earlier in the week on worries it will not recoup the £450m a year it is spending to go up against BSkyB in sports broadcasting. Yesterday, however, investors were weighing the potential damage the rivalry might inflict on Sky."

"analysts at Macquarie warned that the company should expect “fierce competition” in the forthcoming bidding process for the pay-TV rights to broadcast Champions League matches from 2015 to 2018. They estimated the price Sky will pay to secure the rights will rise 70pc, which would knock the company’s 2016 estimated earnings by 4pc."

It looks like SKY Sports might start to get really expensive in the next 12 to 24 months.

I thought breaking up football rights and giving the consumer choice was supposed to be a good thing? All I'm seeing is evidence of crazy bidding wars that's just going to push up subscription prices up over and over again.

Consumers do have a choice though Chad. You can choose between two suppliers of PL football currently. People simply choose to pay the extra charges for Sky Sports.

I have no sympathy for those who pay.

I love my Cricket, and will happily watch Golf for the better part of a day if I can, but I will not pay the price Sky want to charge.

I know my next point has been made many times before, but it is always relevant. People can exercise some consumer rights, make a choice and simply cancel Sky Sports. It is the only way the price will come down.

jimbo2 25-10-2013 23:56

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BBC3 HD AND CBBC HD

Does anyone have a date yet for BBC3 HD/CBBC HD? It has been reported elsewhere that they are supposed to be on Virgin by or from 10 December.

I cannot get confirmation of this so if anyone knows, please can you let us know?

Also, any dates for BBC4 HD/CBeebies HD and BBC News HD?

Can anyone confirm if and when Red Button HD (channel 994) is going off? It has been suggested that this will stop after Doctor Who 3D on 23 November - but again - no confirmation yet.

Can anyone please shed some light on any of these changes? Thanks.

ocav 26-10-2013 00:42

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Originally Posted by jimbo2 (Post 35636935)
BBC3 HD AND CBBC HD

Does anyone have a date yet for BBC3 HD/CBBC HD? It has been reported elsewhere that they are supposed to be on Virgin by or from 10 December.

I cannot get confirmation of this so if anyone knows, please can you let us know?

Also, any dates for BBC4 HD/CBeebies HD and BBC News HD?

Can anyone confirm if and when Red Button HD (channel 994) is going off? It has been suggested that this will stop after Doctor Who 3D on 23 November - but again - no confirmation yet.

Can anyone please shed some light on any of these changes? Thanks.

Nothing is confirmed.

But rumours about the Red Button HD closure are very likely to be true, after Doctor Who there is no more content this side of Christmas scheduled for this, and the service will have to be removed from Freeview for the launch of BBC Three HD.

BBC Four, Cbeebies and News HD will very likely be later than BBC Three and CBBC HD as a new Freeview MUX will have to be launched (I know we are talking about Virgin Media but the BBC has to launch on all platforms at once)

Mikey1981 26-10-2013 01:03

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35636904)
Yes footballing rights in this country are a disgrace and one either thinks its complete incompetence by the anti competition authorities or something a bit more corrupt.

Before it was just sky sports we had to buy to see english football. The competition authorities then decided this was naughty and not good for us. Meaning most people now have to pay an extra tenner to see all of the football and sky sports have increased their prices even more so.

Well done to all involved in that. With the highest ticket prices as well people in england sure do have to spend a lot to watch football.

I wish i was german. Ten quid a ticket to go see hertha berlin

I go to watch Hertha Berlin a few times a year, over there now in Munich to watch them play Bayern tomorrow, over there absolutely every game is shown on skybundesliga live.

ncfc1902 26-10-2013 02:16

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35636904)
I wish i was german. Ten quid a ticket to go see hertha berlin

Do they charge non Germans more then? :D

RichardCoulter 26-10-2013 02:37

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Just checked the picture quality on Premier Sports for myself.

It seems ok to me, I wonder if it just seems poor to some people because, when flicking through, one goes from BT Sport 2 HD to Premier Sports??

Dave42 26-10-2013 02:46

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35636968)
Just checked the picture quality on Premier Sports for myself.

It seems ok to me, I wonder if it just seems poor to some people because, when flicking through, one goes from BT Sport 2 HD to Premier Sports??

picture ok on my TiVo too for PS

Harryn9000 26-10-2013 02:49

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it on ok on my tivo but goes a bit pixilated every so often

RichardCoulter 26-10-2013 03:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbo2 (Post 35636935)
BBC3 HD AND CBBC HD

Does anyone have a date yet for BBC3 HD/CBBC HD? It has been reported elsewhere that they are supposed to be on Virgin by or from 10 December.

I cannot get confirmation of this so if anyone knows, please can you let us know?

Also, any dates for BBC4 HD/CBeebies HD and BBC News HD?

Can anyone confirm if and when Red Button HD (channel 994) is going off? It has been suggested that this will stop after Doctor Who 3D on 23 November - but again - no confirmation yet.

Can anyone please shed some light on any of these changes? Thanks.

There is a claim here (post 16) that says that there is a VM leaflet available clarifying the date:

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1902985

denphone 26-10-2013 07:09

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35636873)
We all have different values. I'm perfectly happy to pay £20 for a decent bottle of wine, but I certainly wouldn't pay it for a TV channel.

And if you are happy with that Sir then that's the main thing.:)

Chad 26-10-2013 10:21

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35636989)
And if you are happy with that Sir then that's the main thing.:)

He'll still be sleeping off that luxurious bottle of wine at the moment :D

Mikey1981 26-10-2013 10:23

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Originally Posted by ncfc1902 (Post 35636962)
Do they charge non Germans more then? :D

Normally no, for this game yeah as I'm in the away end and it'd been sold out for a while but still paid less than I would to watch Everton.

Itshim 26-10-2013 11:01

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New channel - name escapes me.Coming Nov 2nd - source, Sky living last night.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35636401)
Exactly. I know some deaf people who can only watch live or recorded TV, because VOD doesn't have subtitles.

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As you were told the last time you came into this thread making such derogatory remarks:

'If that is your view, this thread clearly does not meet your needs and it may be a good idea to neither read nor contribute to it'.

You graciously did for some time, what's changed? (or are you simply gratuitously trying to stir up trouble?) :confused:

Sorry Richard but to believe that "the great one " has been given secret information , but can not share with us sounds like a play ground story. If you choose to believe in such childish rubbish. Please feel free but respect others who treat it with a JCB shovel of salt :D Guys who E mailed your support to my comments - Please put your heads over the parapets :erm:

In answer to your request I thought such fairy tales had stopped. As they have not, I will post as & when I wish too. For trouble read "real world" not (put what you will here. )

Chad 26-10-2013 11:21

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35637017)
New channel - name escapes me.Coming Nov 2nd - source, Sky living last night.

I think it's Lifetime

http://www.lifetimetv.co.uk/

blue666666 26-10-2013 11:32

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Is anyone expecting big news next week ?

theone2k10 26-10-2013 11:55

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35637017)
New channel - name escapes me.Coming Nov 2nd - source, Sky living last night.

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Sorry Richard but to believe that "the great one " has been given secret information , but can not share with us sounds like a play ground story. If you choose to believe in such childish rubbish. Please feel free but respect others who treat it with a JCB shovel of salt :D Guys who E mailed your support to my comments - Please put your heads over the parapets :erm:

In answer to your request I thought such fairy tales had stopped. As they have not, I will post as & when I wish too. For trouble read "real world" not (put what you will here. )

It's Lifetime it launches on the 4th November :)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blue666666 (Post 35637025)
Is anyone expecting big news next week ?

Nothing yet , more areas should get the TiVo update but that's only info i have atm.

vincerooney 26-10-2013 12:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ncfc1902 (Post 35636962)
Do they charge non Germans more then? :D

haha no but then i could see hertha berlin play 17 home games a season at a cost of about 200 euros which is probably the cost of 3 arsenal games.

OLD BOY 26-10-2013 13:18

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Originally Posted by MaverickJesus (Post 35636723)
The network backhaul deal has a absolutely nothing to do with Sky channels appearing on VM, I have no idea why you keep pedalling this wildly optimistic rubbish.

From what you ascertain, the deal is already done, and apparently has been done since about June. But whatever, they chose not to actually launch the channels they have supposedly paid for and signed off, because of, err...***** and giggles I guess? :confused:

You seem to have this incredibly misguided opinion that Sky are desperate to get their channels on VM, which flies in the face of pretty much all the actual evidence.

We also won't 'see within weeks'. Just like we didn't the last 30 odd times you have said this over the last 6 months.

It is not 'wildly optimistic', MJ. The negotiations and the better relationship between VM and Sky have been reported and it doesn't take much in reading the media reports to conclude what I have concluded. I note that Media Boy is now convinced that some of the missing Sky channels will launch this year.

The delay in launching - there could be a number of reasons for this, but I believe it may have something to do with the negotiations over the Sky Bravo channel or it may have something to do with the launch of the Sky channels elsewhere. We all know by now that channel launches can be delayed for technical and other reasons - just look at Fox + (or do you also deny that this is ready to launch on VM?).

You can choose not to believe what I have been saying, MJ. However, I will be proved to be right in the end.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spankysmagicpian (Post 35636727)
OB - could you please direct me to the information where this is confirmed please?

There is no official confirmation of course, spanky. You won't get this until the day of the launch! Look at the BT channels - I correctly stated for weeks that we would get them before the first Premiership match, even after the channel was launched elsewhere and people were having major doubts about this.

Stay steady - they will come soon enough!

Media Boy UK 26-10-2013 13:34

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Originally Posted by blue666666 (Post 35637025)
Is anyone expecting big news next week ?

No info in Media Boy HQ yet.

Mad Max 26-10-2013 13:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35637017)
New channel - name escapes me.Coming Nov 2nd - source, Sky living last night.

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Sorry Richard but to believe that "the great one " has been given secret information , but can not share with us sounds like a play ground story. If you choose to believe in such childish rubbish. Please feel free but respect others who treat it with a JCB shovel of salt :D Guys who E mailed your support to my comments - Please put your heads over the parapets :erm:

In answer to your request I thought such fairy tales had stopped. As they have not, I will post as & when I wish too. For trouble read "real world" not (put what you will here. )



This......:tu:

kandinsky 26-10-2013 13:49

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Premier Sports

VMs announcment says its free for a month at the beginning of their blurb and then says free until end of year at the end.

Does anyone at Virgin proof read these things before posting?



Live rugby league, hockey, football and more!
We've got some fantastic news for all you sports fans. We've signed the brilliant new sports channel Premier Sports. And to mark the occasion, we're giving it to all our customers for one month, at no extra cost.

Premier Sports is the only place to view all 28 games of this autumn's Rugby League World Cup. So alongside England's games, you can watch Wales and Scotland taking on the likes of Australia and New Zealand too.

That's not all. Premier Sports is the home of North America's NHL ice hockey, NASCAR Trucks and South American football from Argentina and Brazil, so you can spot the Neymar and Lionel Messi of tomorrow!

Tune in to Premier Sports (CH 551) from Friday 25th October to catch all the action. And, remember, it's free for all our customers until the end of the year.


:confused:

passingbat 26-10-2013 14:11

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35637055)

There is no official confirmation of course, spanky. You won't get this until the day of the launch! Look at the BT channels - I correctly stated for weeks that we would get them before the first Premiership match, even after the channel was launched elsewhere and people were having major doubts about this.

Stay steady - they will come soon enough!

I think the problem is that you are posting what is just your firmly held opinion, based on circumstantial evidence, as if it was a fact.

No one has a problem with firmly held opinions; but they do have a problem when you tell them it is a fact, but fail to reveal the nature of your source.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35637017)

In answer to your request I thought such fairy tales had stopped. As they have not, I will post as & when I wish too. For trouble read "real world" not (put what you will here. )


First of all, they are not fairy tales they are rumours; some have substance and some don't. Some are gleaned from things like VM accidentally putting up web pages before they should do (and rapidly removing them) and some from insiders (and I you don't believe in leaks, you really aren't living in today's world) and some are pure speculation.

But all the above is what this thread is about; and we love it. We don't take everything as gospel, and have fun with the information, real or unreal.


It seems to me that this thread just simply isn't for you.

denphone 26-10-2013 14:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35637010)
He'll still be sleeping off that luxurious bottle of wine at the moment :D

For that money he must have bought it at harrods.

theone2k10 26-10-2013 15:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35637068)
I think the problem is that you are posting what is just your firmly held opinion, based on circumstantial evidence, as if it was a fact.

No one has a problem with firmly held opinions; but they do have a problem when you tell them it is a fact, but fail to reveal the nature of your source.

---------- Post added at 13:11 ---------- Previous post was at 12:53 ----------




First of all, they are not fairy tales they are rumours; some have substance and some don't. Some are gleaned from things like VM accidentally putting up web pages before they should do (and rapidly removing them) and some from insiders (and I you don't believe in leaks, you really aren't living in today's world) and some are pure speculation.

But all the above is what this thread is about; and we love it. We don't take everything as gospel, and have fun with the information, real or unreal.


It seems to me that this thread just simply isn't for you.



:clap::clap::clap: Spot on mate.

howardmicks 26-10-2013 16:18

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not been scrapped yet,but we are slowly getting there


http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php...nt-policy.html

MaverickJesus 26-10-2013 18:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35637055)
It is not 'wildly optimistic', MJ. The negotiations and the better relationship between VM and Sky have been reported and it doesn't take much in reading the media reports to conclude what I have concluded. I note that Media Boy is now convinced that some of the missing Sky channels will launch this year.

The delay in launching - there could be a number of reasons for this, but I believe it may have something to do with the negotiations over the Sky Bravo channel or it may have something to do with the launch of the Sky channels elsewhere. We all know by now that channel launches can be delayed for technical and other reasons - just look at Fox + (or do you also deny that this is ready to launch on VM?).

You can choose not to believe what I have been saying, MJ. However, I will be proved to be right in the end.

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There is no official confirmation of course, spanky. You won't get this until the day of the launch! Look at the BT channels - I correctly stated for weeks that we would get them before the first Premiership match, even after the channel was launched elsewhere and people were having major doubts about this.

Stay steady - they will come soon enough!

He has been convinced those Sky channels were going to launched for years mate, don't get carried away.

The very nature of you continuing to post these lies is that eventually, if you persist for long enough, you will accidentally be proved right. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, and that sums you up entirely. All talk, no substance.

johnasimmons 26-10-2013 19:39

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Originally Posted by MaverickJesus (Post 35637152)
He has been convinced those Sky channels were going to launched for years mate, don't get carried away.

The very nature of you continuing to post these lies is that eventually, if you persist for long enough, you will accidentally be proved right. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, and that sums you up entirely. All talk, no substance.

I get the feeling you are just here to stir people up, you are probably more suited for the Digital Spy forum :sniper:

passingbat 26-10-2013 20:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 35637173)
I get the feeling you are just here to stir people up, you are probably more suited for the Digital Spy forum :sniper:


I think he's lost, as he lists Sky services and nothing from VM. Maybe the nice Sky people who post on here can help him find his way home. The poor old boy is probably just a bit confused.

theone2k10 26-10-2013 20:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MaverickJesus (Post 35637152)
He has been convinced those Sky channels were going to launched for years mate, don't get carried away.

The very nature of you continuing to post these lies is that eventually, if you persist for long enough, you will accidentally be proved right. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, and that sums you up entirely. All talk, no substance.

Sky channels are coming this autumn fact. How do i know? Maybe just maybe i might know somebody in negotiations.

Risco 26-10-2013 21:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35637210)
Sky channels are coming this autumn fact. How do i know? Maybe just maybe i might know somebody in negotiations.

Does this fact include SA HD and F1 HD?

OLD BOY 26-10-2013 21:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35637068)
I think the problem is that you are posting what is just your firmly held opinion, based on circumstantial evidence, as if it was a fact.

No one has a problem with firmly held opinions; but they do have a problem when you tell them it is a fact, but fail to reveal the nature of your source.

I respect your opinion, passingbat, but please, let's chill out! Nobody can quote sources directly on most channel launches because VM do not communicate.

The whole point of this thread is to work out what is going on behind the scenes. If you want to deal in facts, look at the Changelog!

I am telling you what I believe is happening, based on media reports and sometimes the information that comes out of this thread. Do you really think that I would be prepared to lay my reputation on the line if I didn't believe what I was posting?

Listen, if you don't believe what I write, that is up to you, and I am not upset if you don't believe me. I stand or fall on my reputation.

If at the end of the year, the Sky channels haven't materialised, then you will be right and I will be wrong. But if all the predictions I make turn out to be true, eventually, you will start to take what I say seriously.

I will come clean now. I am not absolutely sure that ALL the Sky channels will be with us this autumn. However, Sky Atlantic is coming. Even Media Boy believes it now.

The reason I'm not sure about the remainder of the Sky channels is that I think it is possible that VM will decide to save a few pennies by not having them. But it is not Sky trying to withhold them.

Mad Max 26-10-2013 21:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35637210)
Sky channels are coming this autumn fact. How do i know? Maybe just maybe i might know somebody in negotiations.

Fact? If it is fact why dont Virgin say so? these, so called " coming soon" threads are all speculation, why do we need them? Is it to point score, as in " told you so"? Sorry, i'll just wait till i see it on my EPG, then ill know its FACT!

paultrademark 26-10-2013 21:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35637210)
Sky channels are coming this autumn fact. How do i know? Maybe just maybe i might know somebody in negotiations.

When are you classing as Autumn?

I'd say it's pretty much September - November, do you agree?

Mad Max 26-10-2013 21:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35637231)
When are you classing as Autumn?

I'd say it's pretty much September - November, do you agree?

Spot on..............:tu:

OLD BOY 26-10-2013 21:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by martin201002 (Post 35636659)
I really do hope Sky Atlantic comes to vm, just can't see it happening. Not that I'll be watching it, its proper overrated imo.

If you don't like programmes like Boardwalk Empire, Mad Men, Blue Bloods, Game of Thrones (I could go on...) then clearly the channel is not for you.

Good luck with the rubbish that you can find on other channels (Dawn Porter, Extreme Wife; When Vacations Attack; Body Invaders (I could go on...), I'm glad you are happy.

One thing I will say, though. Many I am sure look at the Sky Atlantic schedule for one or two days and find nothing they want to watch. I am the same. However, with multi-channel TV, you have to go through ALL the schedules and pick out what you want. I would definitely not want to watch Sky 1 all evening, but I cannot ignore the occasional good drama series that appear on there.

Sky Atlantic is not the be all and end all. However, they do screen some programmes worth seeing.

---------- Post added at 20:54 ---------- Previous post was at 20:52 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35636739)
Is it?? Haven't seen anything confirmed as yet!

Believing it isn't compulsory, MM! Just wait to be amazed!!

---------- Post added at 20:55 ---------- Previous post was at 20:54 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tricky Trevor (Post 35636858)
And also a rip off for pathetic picture quality

Well, it is SD! Maybe with the extra money VM brings in, they can afford to launch an HD channel.

---------- Post added at 20:56 ---------- Previous post was at 20:55 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35637229)
Fact? If it is fact why dont Virgin say so? these, so called " coming soon" threads are all speculation, why do we need them? Is it to point score, as in " told you so"? Sorry, i'll just wait till i see it on my EPG, then ill know its FACT!

So why read the Cable Forum Coming Soon thread? You are old enough to work out the fact from the fiction.

spankysmagicpian 26-10-2013 21:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35637055)
I note that Media Boy is now convinced that some of the missing Sky channels will launch this year.

If you throw enough darts at a dartboard, you're bound to hit treble 20 at some stage.

---------- Post added at 12:18 ---------- Previous post was at 12:15 ----------
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35637055)
Stay steady - they will come soon enough!

if they come (in your words) 'soon' then I tip my hat to you Old Boy but as the speculation grows, the more woolly the defination of 'soon' becomes

OLD BOY 26-10-2013 22:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35637231)
When are you classing as Autumn?

I'd say it's pretty much September - November, do you agree?

Autumn is September 22 to December 21. Astronomically, that is.

---------- Post added at 21:02 ---------- Previous post was at 20:57 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaverickJesus (Post 35637152)
He has been convinced those Sky channels were going to launched for years mate, don't get carried away.

The very nature of you continuing to post these lies is that eventually, if you persist for long enough, you will accidentally be proved right. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, and that sums you up entirely. All talk, no substance.

Years? I don't think so! I am happy to stand or fall on this autumn.

theone2k10 26-10-2013 22:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35637231)
When are you classing as Autumn?

I'd say it's pretty much September - November, do you agree?

Yeah i'd agree with that September to November time frame.

---------- Post added at 21:04 ---------- Previous post was at 21:03 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35637229)
Fact? If it is fact why dont Virgin say so? these, so called " coming soon" threads are all speculation, why do we need them? Is it to point score, as in " told you so"? Sorry, i'll just wait till i see it on my EPG, then ill know its FACT!

When do VM ever announce channels? Personally i have Sky too and quite honestly vm subscribers aren't missing much.

OLD BOY 26-10-2013 22:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35637229)
Fact? If it is fact why dont Virgin say so? these, so called " coming soon" threads are all speculation, why do we need them? Is it to point score, as in " told you so"? Sorry, i'll just wait till i see it on my EPG, then ill know its FACT!

And when exactly did VM confirm the launch of the BT Sports channels? Get real, Mad Max, some of us have information that cannot be ignored.

Mad Max 26-10-2013 22:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35637247)
And when exactly did VM confirm the launch of the BT Sports channels. Get real, Mad Max, some of us have information that cannot be ignored.


Information, yeah ok!

OLD BOY 26-10-2013 22:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35637248)
Information, yeah ok!

OK, I'll say no more. Let's just wait and see. I am not expecting an apology.

andy_m 26-10-2013 22:14

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MB, Old Boy says you agree that Atlantic is on the way-is that the case?

OLD BOY 26-10-2013 22:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35637251)
MB, Old Boy says you agree that Atlantic is on the way-is that the case?

Well, it's on his blog!!!

Mad Max 26-10-2013 22:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35637250)
OK, I'll say no more. Let's just wait and see. I am not expecting an apology.


An apology? are you for real? when did you become " the know all" of whats coming next on VM?
I'll stick with the real source of good info and that's MB!

denphone 26-10-2013 22:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MaverickJesus (Post 35637152)
He has been convinced those Sky channels were going to launched for years mate, don't get carried away.

The very nature of you continuing to post these lies is that eventually, if you persist for long enough, you will accidentally be proved right. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, and that sums you up entirely. All talk, no substance.

Whoops big mouth strikes again.;):D

OLD BOY 26-10-2013 22:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35637260)
An apology? are you for real? when did you become " the know all" of whats coming next on VM?
I'll stick with the real source of good info and that's MB!

Your choice! However, an apology would be polite if Sky Atlantic appeared this autumn, don't you think? I am assuming you have manners, of course, which I am sure you have in abudance :rolleyes:

amarkr 26-10-2013 22:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35637021)
I think it's Lifetime

http://www.lifetimetv.co.uk/

I saw that too.

It was a trailer for a new show and looks like its taking over the the BIO slot on 242

OLD BOY 26-10-2013 22:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35637266)
Whoops big mouth strikes again.;):D

It's just a wind up, denphone, don't worry about it!

vincerooney 26-10-2013 22:44

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Lots of angst tonight I see... We need some cheering up with some blockbuster news

Itshim 26-10-2013 22:56

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Not coming soon - But a friend who works for Liberty & worked out whom I am - If you know me the clues are there. Has told me & said that`s its no secret So post if I wish. The following. That the long term targets are.
1) uniform branding across all companies
2) uniform channels across all companies
3) One box only & Tivo is NOT the model favored.


All is subject to contracts of cause but these are the company aims.
Would look t be in place within the next Five years

passingbat 26-10-2013 22:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35637227)
I respect your opinion, passingbat, but please, let's chill out! Nobody can quote sources directly on most channel launches because VM do not communicate.

The whole point of this thread is to work out what is going on behind the scenes. If you want to deal in facts, look at the Changelog!

I am telling you what I believe is happening, based on media reports and sometimes the information that comes out of this thread. Do you really think that I would be prepared to lay my reputation on the line if I didn't believe what I was posting?

Listen, if you don't believe what I write, that is up to you, and I am not upset if you don't believe me. I stand or fall on my reputation.

If at the end of the year, the Sky channels haven't materialised, then you will be right and I will be wrong. But if all the predictions I make turn out to be true, eventually, you will start to take what I say seriously.

I will come clean now. I am not absolutely sure that ALL the Sky channels will be with us this autumn. However, Sky Atlantic is coming. Even Media Boy believes it now.

The reason I'm not sure about the remainder of the Sky channels is that I think it is possible that VM will decide to save a few pennies by not having them. But it is not Sky trying to withhold them.

When have I said it is not coming? The truth is I don't know. Signs are positive, but I still don't know.


Other people say they have a source; no one expects them to reveal it.

You just tell us it is coming with no justification other than you expect us to believe you. That is why people keep challenging you.

theone2k10 26-10-2013 23:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35637278)
Not coming soon - But a friend who works for Liberty & worked out whom I am - If you know me the clues are there. Has told me & said that`s its no secret So post if I wish. The following. That the long term targets are.
1) uniform branding across all companies
2) uniform channels across all companies
3) One box only & Tivo is NOT the model favored.


All is subject to contracts of cause but these are the company aims.
Would look t be in place within the next Five years

BIB is the Horizon box i'm suspecting as i've heard talk about Horizon and it's already up and running in Ireland and across LGs network in Europe.

ocav 26-10-2013 23:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35637273)
Lots of angst tonight I see... We need some cheering up with some blockbuster news

BLOCKBUSTER NEWS

Movie Rental chain Blockbuster still remains open despite tough online competition, over priced rentals and lack of stores throughout the country.

Local woman who cannot be named as she currently is owing her late fee said "what's the point?"


That the sort of news you wanted Vince?

Dave42 26-10-2013 23:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35637282)
BLOCKBUSTER NEWS

Movie Rental chain Blockbuster still remains open despite tough online competition, over priced rentals and lack of stores throughout the country.

Local woman who cannot be named as she currently is owing her late fee said "what's the point?"


That the sort of news you wanted Vince?

:LOL:

passingbat 26-10-2013 23:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35637281)
BIB is the Horizon box i'm suspecting as i've heard talk about Horizon and it's already up and running in Ireland and across LGs network in Europe.


I seriously hope that isn't the case. Tivo has been a massive success for VM so they should leave well alone.

We would lose one of the best features, Whishlists, if they swapped from Tivo.

vincerooney 26-10-2013 23:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35637282)
BLOCKBUSTER NEWS

Movie Rental chain Blockbuster still remains open despite tough online competition, over priced rentals and lack of stores throughout the country.

Local woman who cannot be named as she currently is owing her late fee said "what's the point?"


That the sort of news you wanted Vince?

It's 11pm I'm sat in alone on a Saturday I'll take it to be honest

harry_hitch 26-10-2013 23:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35637299)
It's 11pm I'm sat in alone on a Saturday I'll take it to be honest

You are not alone Vince, you have all of us......:erm::D

theone2k10 27-10-2013 00:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35637282)
BLOCKBUSTER NEWS

Movie Rental chain Blockbuster still remains open despite tough online competition, over priced rentals and lack of stores throughout the country.

Local woman who cannot be named as she currently is owing her late fee said "what's the point?"


That the sort of news you wanted Vince?

You forgot to add if you use their games and movie rental it's very rare you'll get a game even if your top 10 is only games , also not to mention they don't answer the phone.

Horizon 27-10-2013 00:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35637278)
Not coming soon - But a friend who works for Liberty & worked out whom I am - If you know me the clues are there. Has told me & said that`s its no secret So post if I wish. The following. That the long term targets are.
1) uniform branding across all companies
2) uniform channels across all companies
3) One box only & Tivo is NOT the model favored.


All is subject to contracts of cause but these are the company aims.
Would look t be in place within the next Five years

That was my impression of what would happen when Liberty announced they were buying VM. Uniform branding and channels are relatively easy to do. Merged tech takes more effort.

But Liberty are also hoping, according to reports, to merge their Dutch and Belgium cablecos together, as a step towards merging all their European cable interests into one company. Although a sea of debt and tax issues appear to be the main reasons why this may not happen anytime soon.

Bananaman_007 27-10-2013 00:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35637301)
You forgot to add if you use their games and movie rental it's very rare you'll get a game even if your top 10 is only games , also not to mention they don't answer the phone.

I was so frustrated with that i ditched them and went to Boomerang who are quite frankly brilliant. I have had 6 of my 8 pre order rentals so far on day of release. I would like to add they don't bother to answer emails either. Waited 2 weeks for them to send me a rental, emailed to complain and they did not even reply.

passingbat 27-10-2013 00:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35637302)
That was my impression of what would happen when Liberty announced they were buying VM. Uniform branding and channels are relatively easy to do. Merged tech takes more effort.

But Liberty are also hoping, according to reports, to merge their Dutch and Belgium cablecos together, as a step towards merging all their European cable interests into one company. Alhtough a sea of debt and tax issues appear to be the main reasons why this may not happen anytime soon.

Hopefully by the time they get all that sorted, with the increase of online content, I will have 'cut the cord'. If they dump Tivo, that would be even more of an incentive.

Mad Max 27-10-2013 00:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35637269)
Your choice! However, an apology would be polite if Sky Atlantic appeared this autumn, don't you think? I am assuming you have manners, of course, which I am sure you have in abudance :rolleyes:

Really? Ok just testing, of course, reveal the date of Atlantic! no ******** around with autumn etc etc, you seem to be in the know, so how would it harm you?

We're waiting Mr Knowall...........:D:D

RichardCoulter 27-10-2013 00:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35637017)
Sorry Richard but to believe that "the great one " has been given secret information , but can not share with us sounds like a play ground story. If you choose to believe in such childish rubbish. Please feel free but respect others who treat it with a JCB shovel of salt :D Guys who E mailed your support to my comments - Please put your heads over the parapets :erm:

In answer to your request I thought such fairy tales had stopped. As they have not, I will post as & when I wish too. For trouble read "real world" not (put what you will here. )

The content of this thread is available for you to read, which I assume you did before posting.

You would, therefore, have been made aware of the content, so I do not accept your claim that you thought that the nature of this thread had changed.

One can only conclude that you chose to post your negative comments out of a desire to stir up trouble once again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kandinsky (Post 35637067)
Premier Sports

VMs announcment says its free for a month at the beginning of their blurb and then says free until end of year at the end.

Does anyone at Virgin proof read these things before posting?



Live rugby league, hockey, football and more!
We've got some fantastic news for all you sports fans. We've signed the brilliant new sports channel Premier Sports. And to mark the occasion, we're giving it to all our customers for one month, at no extra cost.

Premier Sports is the only place to view all 28 games of this autumn's Rugby League World Cup. So alongside England's games, you can watch Wales and Scotland taking on the likes of Australia and New Zealand too.

That's not all. Premier Sports is the home of North America's NHL ice hockey, NASCAR Trucks and South American football from Argentina and Brazil, so you can spot the Neymar and Lionel Messi of tomorrow!

Tune in to Premier Sports (CH 551) from Friday 25th October to catch all the action. And, remember, it's free for all our customers until the end of the year.


:confused:

This is VM we are talking about, they are known for their poor communication skills on all levels. Let's h8pe that Liberty Global will resolve this long standing problem ;-)

theone2k10 27-10-2013 00:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bananaman_007 (Post 35637303)
I was so frustrated with that i ditched them and went to Boomerang who are quite frankly brilliant. I have had 6 of my 8 pre order rentals so far on day of release. I would like to add they don't bother to answer emails either. Waited 2 weeks for them to send me a rental, emailed to complain and they did not even reply.

A little birdy told me Boomerang are looking into the movie rental buisness too. I agree with you Boomerang are fantastic , atm i have a huge pile of psn+ games to grind through lol.

RichardCoulter 27-10-2013 00:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35637068)
First of all, they are not fairy tales they are rumours; some have substance and some don't. Some are gleaned from things like VM accidentally putting up web pages before they should do (and rapidly removing them) and some from insiders (and I you don't believe in leaks, you really aren't living in today's world) and some are pure speculation.

But all the above is what this thread is about; and we love it. We don't take everything as gospel, and have fun with the information, real or unreal.


It seems to me that this thread just simply isn't for you.

Indeed, but itshim seems to get his pleasure from spoiling the enjoyment of others when the fancy takes him.

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 35637173)
I get the feeling you are just here to stir people up, you are probably more suited for the Digital Spy forum :sniper:

You could be right about Maverickjesus, but it may just be that he has poor communication skills and cannot express himself effectively, so comes accross as abrupt and rude??

---------- Post added at 23:39 ---------- Previous post was at 23:32 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35637278)
Not coming soon - But a friend who works for Liberty & worked out whom I am - If you know me the clues are there. Has told me & said that`s its no secret So post if I wish. The following. That the long term targets are.
1) uniform branding across all companies
2) uniform channels across all companies
3) One box only & Tivo is NOT the model favored.


All is subject to contracts of cause but these are the company aims.
Would look t be in place within the next Five years

That's more like it :)

Well, it doesn't surprise me that LG are going for uniform branding, but this is the first time I've heard it being mooted.

I am also not surprised that LG will be looking to an exit strategy for TiVo. Their own Horizon box is in use elsewhere and would save them having to pay licencing fees to TiVo.

I wonder if the Horizon software can be dropped onto the existing TiVo boxes??

---------- Post added at 23:43 ---------- Previous post was at 23:39 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35637298)
I seriously hope that isn't the case. Tivo has been a massive success for VM so they should leave well alone.

We would lose one of the best features, Whishlists, if they swapped from Tivo.

Perhaps the Horizon box could be incorporated to include Wishlists (and anything else worth having from TiVo)??

Horizon will save VM money and possibly customers too (maybe this change will put a stop to the multiroom per TiVo charge or the actual TiVo charge itself)??

passingbat 27-10-2013 00:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35637311)

------ Post added at 23:43 ---------- Previous post was at 23:39 --------

Perhaps the Horizon box could be incorporated to include Wishlists (and anything else worth having from TiVo)??

Much of the Tivo functionality, such as Whishlists is patented, so that is highly unlikely in my view. That is why Tivo have gained a lot of money through winning law suits recently, from other ST Boxes using Tivo functionality without agreement and paying Tivo for the use.

howardmicks 27-10-2013 01:17

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I was told there are no plans to replace TiVo at the minute,liberty ain't stupid they will know by now that it's a big selling point for vm.To be honest as I currently have both if they was to get rid of TiVo that would be me gone from the TV side

OLD BOY 27-10-2013 01:25

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I'm not quite understanding the reason for your anger, MM! You are not my disciple. You can accept or disregard my comments as you wish. The truth will out in due course. Can we now just chill?,
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35637305)
Really? Ok just testing, of course, reveal the date of Atlantic! no ******** around with autumn etc etc, you seem to be in the know, so how would it harm you?

We're waiting Mr Knowall...........:D:D


Mad Max 27-10-2013 01:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35637333)
I'm not quite understanding the reason for your anger, MM! You are not my disciple. You can accept or disregard my comments as you wish. The truth will out in due course. Can we now just chill?,

What anger? if thats your perception then you are totally wrong, i asked you a straightforward question, which seems to be beyond you, maybe you should "chill" before posting non facts!

RichardCoulter 27-10-2013 04:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35637320)
Much of the Tivo functionality, such as Whishlists is patented, so that is highly unlikely in my view. That is why Tivo have gained a lot of money through winning law suits recently, from other ST Boxes using Tivo functionality without agreement and paying Tivo for the use.

Ahhh, I didn't know that.

andy_m 27-10-2013 07:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35637255)
Well, it's on his blog!!!

It's on his blog but with the disclaimer that it's based on rumour. He says only two channels are confirmed by insiders, FOX+ and News 18.

---------- Post added at 06:11 ---------- Previous post was at 06:04 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35637278)
Not coming soon - But a friend who works for Liberty & worked out whom I am - If you know me the clues are there. Has told me & said that`s its no secret So post if I wish. The following. That the long term targets are.
1) uniform branding across all companies
2) uniform channels across all companies
3) One box only & Tivo is NOT the model favored.


All is subject to contracts of cause but these are the company aims.
Would look t be in place within the next Five years

When they took over they made a point of saying how they couldn't improve on the Virgin brand, and had no plans to change it. I wonder if point 1 means we'll see the brand licensed across other Liberty companies, as opposed to dropped in the UK?

I'm not sure how point 2 will work because UPC Ireland aside, Liberty don't operate in any English language countries.

I'm resigned to point 3, but that's years away yet, and then years more because I won't have to change it, just as some people still have v+. I'm hoping I'll have other fibre options by then.

MaverickJesus 27-10-2013 08:42

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
They don't have an opt out of the Virgin Media brand until mid 2017, so that isn't happening any time soon.

Itshim 27-10-2013 09:44

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35637357)
It's on his blog but with the disclaimer that it's based on rumour. He says only two channels are confirmed by insiders, FOX+ and News 18.

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When they took over they made a point of saying how they couldn't improve on the Virgin brand, and had no plans to change it. I wonder if point 1 means we'll see the brand licensed across other Liberty companies, as opposed to dropped in the UK?

I'm not sure how point 2 will work because UPC Ireland aside, Liberty don't operate in any English language countries.

I'm resigned to point 3, but that's years away yet, and then years more because I won't have to change it, just as some people still have v+. I'm hoping I'll have other fibre options by then.

You could well be correct on all your statements
Yes, it could be that all are called Virgin, I have no idea
Would point out shows can be dubbed, & there is a difference between Channels & Shows.

On the box & in fact the total company structure ,its is I am told down to the bottom line.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35637311)
Indeed, but itshim seems to get his pleasure from spoiling the enjoyment of others when the fancy takes him.



You could be right about Maverickjesus, but it may just be that he has poor communication skills and cannot express himself effectively, so comes accross as abrupt and rude??

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That's more like it :)

Well, it doesn't surprise me that LG are going for uniform branding, but this is the first time I've heard it being mooted.

I am also not surprised that LG will be looking to an exit strategy for TiVo. Their own Horizon box is in use elsewhere and would save them having to pay licencing fees to TiVo.

I wonder if the Horizon software can be dropped onto the existing TiVo boxes??

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Perhaps the Horizon box could be incorporated to include Wishlists (and anything else worth having from TiVo)??

Horizon will save VM money and possibly customers too (maybe this change will put a stop to the multiroom per TiVo charge or the actual TiVo charge itself)??

I simply can not believe that what amounts to "five year child" speak is taken a gospel - really "I was told but can not tell you" is just sad.
Also as I sit here with a broken leg - I have failed to locate a single posting of fact that I could not find around the same time form other sources :shocked:

andy_m 27-10-2013 10:00

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35637371)
On the box & in fact the total company structure ,its is I am told down to the bottom line.

I've no doubt. On the face of it moving the whole operation to one box owned in it's entirety by the company and without any licensing fees to pay makes complete commercial sense. Purely from a personal point of view I love my TiVo so will be sorry to see it go.

TAZMANUK 27-10-2013 10:02

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Anyone noticed myvirginmedia has been updated to a new layout.

Smartcall is in their.

vincerooney 27-10-2013 10:18

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
I hope we do get all the channels from Europe as well. Foreign based only channels seem to be limited to Indian only currently (with the odd French one)

ocav 27-10-2013 10:24

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35637371)
Would point out shows can be dubbed, & there is a difference between Channels & Shows.

Yes that's true but broadcasters won't make a dubbed version just for Liberty Global unless there is money in it. Beside there is also the rights issues to deal with. Most of the foreign channels (even the Irish ones) would have to be blocked out most of the time as they are not allowed to broadcast in the UK.

Channel convergence may happen but it will only be between VM and UPC

muppetman11 27-10-2013 10:24

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35637379)
I've no doubt. On the face of it moving the whole operation to one box owned in it's entirety by the company and without any licensing fees to pay makes complete commercial sense. Purely from a personal point of view I love my TiVo so will be sorry to see it go.

I'm pretty sure there will still be fees incurred , the software on the Horizon box surely still belongs to NDS (Now Cisco).

Tricky Trevor 27-10-2013 10:24

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
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Originally Posted by TAZMANUK (Post 35637381)
Anyone noticed myvirginmedia has been updated to a new layout.

Smartcall is in their.


Well it's now Autumn and the Spotify offer (whatever that is) hasn't happened yet

https://my.virginmedia.com/my-apps/spotify/offers.html

gba93 27-10-2013 10:33

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
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Originally Posted by Tricky Trevor (Post 35637391)
Well it's now Autumn and the Spotify offer (whatever that is) hasn't happened yet

https://my.virginmedia.com/my-apps/spotify/offers.html

As they say:

"We don’t have any Spotify Premium offers for you at the moment, but word on the street is there’ll be a brand new offer coming autumn 2013."

I reckon it's only a rumour. :)

TAZMANUK 27-10-2013 10:40

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
With many customers with TiVo how do they plan to swap out these their thousands of them be a huge cost unles the software can be changed on them which wasnt the case for the v+ boxes...history repeating itself...

Del411 27-10-2013 10:40

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Hi all. Been viewing for a while, just never got round to registering. Just to add to the Spotify offer above, our 3 month free subscription on VIP was running out so we phoned up to find out if there were any offers available yet. We were immediately given another 12 months free without having to argue any case with them. Might be worth you giving them a call?

gba93 27-10-2013 10:52

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
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Originally Posted by Del411 (Post 35637397)
Hi all. Been viewing for a while, just never got round to registering. Just to add to the Spotify offer above, our 3 month free subscription on VIP was running out so we phoned up to find out if there were any offers available yet. We were immediately given another 12 months free without having to argue any case with them. Might be worth you giving them a call?

Welcome and thanks for the heads up :welcome:

Del411 27-10-2013 10:57

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You're welcome & thank you.

spiderplant 27-10-2013 11:46

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35637390)
I'm pretty sure there will still be fees incurred , the software on the Horizon box surely still belongs to NDS (Now Cisco).

You are correct. But licence fees aren't that important to an operator anyway, as they are predictable and can be factored into ongoing subscription fees. The cost of the box and how reliable it is are far more important.

muppetman11 27-10-2013 12:07

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
BT seem to have acquired a few of the HD channels not currently available on VM

History HD
C&I HD
Nat Geo Wild HD

ocav 27-10-2013 12:09

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35637423)
You are correct. But licence fees aren't that important to an operator anyway, as they are predictable and can be factored into ongoing subscription fees. The cost of the box and how reliable it is are far more important.

"Yeah you can have Sky with 200 channels for X amount of month or with us you get the same 200 channels with a box which does primarily the same function (watching and recording tv) but has a few little extras in and that would be X+£5 a month"

Which one is more appealing to the 'general' customer

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35637431)
BT seem to have acquired a few of the HD channels not currently available on VM

History HD
C&I HD
Nat Geo Wild HD

This gives Virgin no excuse now...

denphone 27-10-2013 12:25

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35637431)
BT seem to have acquired a few of the HD channels not currently available on VM

History HD
C&I HD
Nat Geo Wild HD

So there is no excuse then.

theone2k10 27-10-2013 13:21

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35637388)
I hope we do get all the channels from Europe as well. Foreign based only channels seem to be limited to Indian only currently (with the odd French one)

Yeah we all know which European channels you're on about :p::p::p::D:D

Mad Max 27-10-2013 13:43

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Hi Del411, welcome to the forum!

Chad 27-10-2013 14:34

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35637431)
BT seem to have acquired a few of the HD channels not currently available on VM

History HD
C&I HD
Nat Geo Wild HD

Well that dispels the myth that these channels are exclusive to SKY in the UK. It also shows, for History HD and C&I HD, that just because SKY have a stake in these channels doesn't mean they aren't accessible to their competitors.

As others have posted, no reason why Virgin can't go for these channels too.


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