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Just kidding of course. Your always welcome on my dingy. |
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Whilst the channel known as "ESPN" is in existence, the channel has to be carried on VM under the current arrangements for contractual reasons. Of course, contracts can be renegotiated to take a holistic approach... When companies sell assets, especially assets that they know a competitor is keen to get their hands on, they do tend to bundle in weaker performing parts of the business. Examples are that pub management companies will offload poor performing pubs too as a condition of selling a highly desirable outlet to another company. When NTL wanted SKY 2 on their platform, they had to agree to take Sky Travel and Sky Travel+1. If the allegations about Sky Atlantic are correct, expect to see other gems such as Pick TV+1 :D Quote:
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If anybody comes across Sky staff not following this direction from their management, can you please let me know via PM :) |
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Just been talking to my old school mate in town on the sky stall,of course asked him about sky Atlantic.just winked at me but did confirm that they are not allowed to say exclusive anymore.Denphone dare we start to believe lol
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Just a wonder, with Sky there are 2 different channel packages, the Basics (Sky1, Living, Atlantic, Arts, News & Sports News) and Premium (Movies and Sports), what does Sky 3D fall under? |
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"some rumours turn out to be true..."
seriously, what is the point of stuff like this? sounds like a bullsh*tter to me whoever this "source" is. you get exactly the same on football forums. windup merchants hedging their bets. 'Just been told we're signing a really good player if not by this weekend then definitely by next weekend, been told deal done, but i can't say who it is!!!!1' then eventually a player is signed a few weeks later and they say 'that's the player i meant!' and everyone congratulates them on their inside knowledge. |
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When Sky Atlantic goes to an ad break its displays the following
Sky Atlantic logo with the words 'Only on Sky' below , it then repeats this just before the programme resumes from the ad break , I've seen it literally minutes ago. Maybe they're waiting until it goes live on another platform before dropping it. |
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With sky announcing the release soon of their standalone roku box does this negates the need to negotiate with companies and sell direct to consumers? In essence boycotting the middle person which is virgin in this example.
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starting to believe more that bomber is right and us VM customers will be :cleader::cleader::cleader: on Thursday and the dark siders will be :bigcry::bigcry:
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Devices such as the Roku Box negate the need for a middleman to an extent, but linear TV channels via a set top box are still the preferred method of watching TV for most people, so there is still a desire to get channels onto the EPG of the various platform providers.
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So, to sum up: there are 4 channels testing - the question is what will they be? BT Sport? Sky Atlantic? Some channels that have been coming soon? (MTV Classic, Comedy Central Extra+1, Universal HD, E! HD)
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The name "Sky" refers to both a broadcaster and a platform, so the term "Only on Sky" is at least open to interpretation, I'd say.
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I'm still pretty sceptical about us getting BT Sports and Atlantic, i'm not so sceptical regarding Atlantic as i am BT Sports, but if it's free i will only believe it when i see it on the EPG.
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I can see myself at one minute past midnight on Thursday morning checking the EPG...
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I am pretty much in the same category. I want to believe the rumours and respect all who post here with their information but after the "ITVgate" I am take a skeptical approach now to "leaks" and "insider" andpretty much a doubting Thomas now until we see concrete evidence and accept these post on face value basis (albeit they did arrive) From what is in the public domain so far as fact is that both BT and Sky are staging a huge campaign targeting virgin subscribers using the bait that BT is (currently) not available; this is true and does lie well with the post from bomber. We had confirmation virgin will not reduce XL price; they did say they will "monitor" to ensure good value. It could imply new channels in the near future We also have confirmation from David @ smallworld that he believes it will be an exclusive like sky Atlantic; I respect David posting as a man who tells it like it is and does not withhold information to his users and as per my previous post confirmed before that sky 1 hd, sky Atlantic and skysports 3&4 hd remain exclusives. So in conclusion I guess I have to wait till 1st for virgin to play their card ( if intending to play at all) |
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Love the banter between sky and vm on here,end of the day Thursday could be awesome or disappointing.we have been there before,end of the day whatever happens it is clear that vm are certainly trying and no one can knock them for that and they are trying to get not only the best deal for them(after all its a business) but for there customers personally I would be happy with sky Atlantic and universal hd but anything else is most welcome the bt sports will it or won't it saga may continue but looking at the take up figures from bt themselves and sky they need vm more than vm need bt spoke to a number of people over the last week from vm sky and bt for different reasons and it as come apparent that vm want bt sports in the xl pack but bt don't
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Or it is a dead man's hand
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Well there are two answers to that question and l know which one l would put my money on.;)
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Ive already told you guys what there Adult Channel 1, Adult Channel 2, Adult Channel 3 and Adult Channel 4 :D:D:D
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God , I hope not!.
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;);) this has been going on for sometime now!, are VM listening.?
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4seven +30, 4seven +45, 4seven +1, 4seven +2
Now you have even more chances to catch up on your favourite Channel 4 shows :D |
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One thing that's not been mentioned about Sky Atlantic is as well as all the current programming we'll be able to see, we will also get all the stuff from On Demand!
Sky Atlantic arriving on VM for me will finally see some sort of balance re-addressed in quality VM have to offer on their platform. |
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Supporting Richard Coulter's earlier post, Nialli is reporting on his blog that multiple sources have revealed that Sky staff have been told not to promote Sky Atlantic as being exclusive to the Sky platform.
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Sky Atlantic has been a thorn in our sides, but we will get it soon and then we can catch up with all the material we have missed over the last couple of years. Rather a delay like that than extortionate rates being charged for the channel. |
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I'm pretty sure the first half is right, hence why the FA Cup is still on ESPN. Whether the deal with Virgin remains, I'm far less sure.
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Could that be the real issue re: existing contract between espn and virgin media irrespective of new owners.
I would guess Probably not because BT mention in their marketing strategy that after 31st July virgin will no longer have access to espn so would disagree with that assumption that vm "has" to carry it @richardcoulter: may I ask why you personally should be informed of whether sky workers are not following supposed direction from management. Surely that would be up to sky to deal with much as virgin media workers following direction from their management regarding advice they give in retentions |
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New idea for the 4 test channels: Sky Atlantic SD, Sky Atlantic HD, Sky Atlantic +1 & Sky1 +1
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Could be another 4 shopping channels? :D:D:D
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The takeover by Liberty doesn't change this legally binding agreement, as long as ESPN still exists as an entity. BT can't close down ESPN because of the requirements of various unexpired sports rights. The ESPN brand WILL eventually disappear. Of course, both companies are free to supercede the contracts if both parties agree. With immediate effect, Sky employees have been told not to refer to (or insinuate) that Sky Atlantic is a channel that is exclusive to British Sky Broadcasting Group PLC. Appropriate action would need to be taken by Sky management regarding any issues of insubordination by anybody working for or on behalf of Sky Television. I am afraid I am unable to expand any further due to commercial & confidentiality issues. Quote:
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I must preface this by saying I believe BomberAF is correct and that we will see Atlantic and BT Sports coming very soon and in the way he told us it would come too:). However, lets not forget that Sky dropping the "exclusive" could simply mean it will be made available on NOW TV, not VM. It could also be launching on BT as part of the sports deal. These are very unlikely scenarios though and I think in the next couple of weeks many people who have been upset with VM, will be over the moon:)
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Re: Current channel negotiations. I do concur with your view that any person employed by any party partaking in these alleged negotiations would be foolish to risk disciplinary action (up to and including dismissal) for the sake of disobeying a management instruction not to pass on very commercially sensitive information that may leave either company open to the threat of legal action for damages and/or breach of contract. This level of security is unprecedented and is highly unusual, so it is quite feasible that Media Boy would be able to obtain a "heads up" regarding channel launches. |
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Match of the day will be available on the BBC iPlayer from this August , previously it couldn't be shown On Demand due to rights issues.
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Always wondered why the IPlayer online had films but not on the VM iPlayer.
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If only Stokesey looked like Rachael Riley :( |
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Also I have no wish to push thru long lists that simply repeat themselves. I come here mainly when I am bored and in the UK. I read -but do not post when I log on to a remote server. PS some friends have just been visiting as ( they both are on Sky) & want someone to offer "Whole room Harmony boxes" with advanced TV plus. I tend to agree except, the Tivo looks better ! but really that`s a reason to to change! |
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Lots of stuff on here about why ESPN is staying as ESPN. I read it that when they sold everything to BT, part of the deal was that they wanted to keep a channel called ESPN in the UK so that they could keep people familiar with their brand. And that's it. BT picked up their content and agreed to run one channel in their name.
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Is not ESPN an American brand ( Disney/Hurst) and will continue as such. Just pulling out of a small market ( UK) selling its brand to BT- Virgin comes to mind:D
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One thing it does seem: something is definately going to happen this week...
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But yes, it seems something might happen on the virgin tv front, cookery channels, here you come :D |
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All the above of course is based on rumour and conjecture. The four streams testing could be anything, the lack of BT Sport could be VM hanging out to get the best deal and as for Sky Atlantic, well who knows.
Having said that, I can't see the Premiership football/rugby or their sponsors accepting a drop in potential viewers of a few million. The pressure will be on BT to do a deal with VM especially with the lack of uptake by BT. |
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They auctioned the rights...there wasn't a "must increase viewers clause". Or they would have let BBc or ITV have the rights for less money |
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Personally I can't wait for next week either, its going to be hilarious :D
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I've only just realised that most of the VM sheep in here are pensioners. How bizarre.
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:D John 21:17 He said to him the third time, “Simon, son of John, do you love me?” Peter was grieved because he said to him the third time, “Do you love me?” and he said to him, “Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you.” Jesus said to him, “Feed my virgin sheep. |
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Another Sky Atlantic is coming to VM post - http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...11&postcount=1
Its getting rather boring now this week is going to be an interesting one especially when ESPN shuts VM will surely make an announcement of some sort this week ---------- Post added at 10:11 ---------- Previous post was at 10:07 ---------- On the VM forums I hear that there will be the announcement about BT Sports tomorrow (Monday 29th July) http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...1914794/page/2 - post 19 |
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Fantastic, you could not make it up :D |
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I found that post: http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...1914794/page/3 Also posted on Digital Spy: http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...&postcount=543 |
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