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couldn't agree more mate :clap::clap::clap:

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16004787.stm

Crazy man speaks again. If the World Cup 2022 is played in the winter, I'd like to see England boycott it

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Have you ever been in the middle east during summer? It'll be murder on the players unless all the games are late evening or in totally enclosed climate controlled stadiums..

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I know it would murder to play in the summer but they said they could build air conditioned stadiums. If they can't, then the bidding should be reopened. If the World Cup was held in the winter then the European football season will have to be severely altered to accommodate, probably over several seasons

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The thing is football is a global game and several nations play football during the summer. Why should those nations always have to change their leagues.

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Nobody should be changing their league plans. The world cup is nothing more than a pocket-lining charade directed by what can only be described as a borderline secret society clique. High time that FIFA jogged on.

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What about Russia, Norway, USA and Sweden that play during the summer. They have to change every time they qualify

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Then it won't be a problem for them.

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It is for every world cup that takes place during the summer. If they can move their leagues I don't see what the rest of Europe shouldn't have to move theirs once in awhile

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Well there lies the problem, the rest of Europe, South America and basically the cradle of the footballing civilisation will be disrupted. I don't think it's any secret what's gone on and quite frankly the people who have made these decisions really ought not to be making them... even the slightest notion of holding the World Cup in Qatar is utterly ridiculous. Every scandal Blatter has walked away from scot-free. That man has vertical shoulders and no shame.

Let's face it anyway, the World Cup is becoming something of an unwanted sideshow with the growing influence and importance of the biggest domestic league competitions. There seems to have been little appetite for it from some of the more established teams certainly for the past 2 competitions so what appetite anyone will have for a disrupted season in 2022 remains to be seen, I would be surprised if there's any.

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Premier League scores


Blackburn4-2Swansea
Man City5-1Norwich
Newcastle0-3Chelsea
QPR1-1West Brom
Tottenham3-0Bolton
Wigan0-4Arsenal




http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...em/default.stm

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Man City game was good, Glad West Brom drew,shame Villa couldn't do the same.

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City v United in cup

Great draw...

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:D

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indeed :D

Arsenal v Leeds :)

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Wow really looking forward to this blockbuster and hopefully a City win.

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We've had Leeds, Liverpool and City is consecutive seasons in the 3rd round of the cup now. Talk about dream draws for the FA....

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16023214.stm

Bad news for Newcastle fans.

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Carlos Vela, Arsenal player on loan at Real Sociedad (Spain - La Liga) scored a decent goal last night...

http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos...vela-v-malaga/

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What a magnificent goal.:clap:

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Good result last night...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15914767.stm

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Well as a Liverpool fan l am fuming with another display of refereeing incompetence.:mad::mad:

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I see Suarez is in trouble again, this time for swearing at fans. All Dalglish can do is defend him by saying its scandalous fans were calling him a cheat!?!?!? He then went on to say

"His integrity is impeccable. He can look in the mirror and go to bed at night and sleep soundly. If other people can do that then fine. All we ask is to be fair, is to be honest."

The guy has been charged with making racist comments, has been pictured swearing at fans and is forever diving and feigning injury in matches. Dalglish is starting to look a bit stupid in the way he's defending him. I'm suprised he didn't come out saying sticking your middle finger up at people is a sign of endearment in Uruguay.

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How about fuming at Carroll's (lack of) finishing or Reina's fumble....

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And the commentator on Sky said something along the lines of "he does go looking for contact"... I think they should just call it as they see it.... as in "there goes suarez cheating again!"

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I do think fans would be less likely to shout cheat if he didn't cheat all the time.

As an Arsenal fan I am amused at the free ride Dalglish gets from the press. Arsenal and Wenger were subjected a relentless barrage of criticism at the start of the season. Liverpool and Dalglish seem to get nothing but praise and they are three points behind us! Dalgish spent stupid money on his squad as well.

I mean this was the BBC's preview: http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=uk

I mean really. Not sure in what degree you would classify blowing £35 million on Andy Carroll as 'canny'.

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After 14 games last season Liverpool and Hodgson had 19 points. This season Dalglish has 23 after 14 games.

Thats progress isn't it?...... :D

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Well Carroll l have never rated and every goalkeeper is entitled to one fumble.

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Spearing's tackle on Dembele

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/12/40.gif

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Then the FA need to review the guidance they are giving referees about centre-halves going through the back of strikers. You can take any given occasion that Suarez (and he is not alone in this) appears to go to ground easily and there could be three or four others where he's barged in the back or had the back of his legs kicked and received nothing. You may not see this on the tv screen but when you're a few yards away from it happening at the match there's no escaping from what goes on.

And the racism issue is irrelevant until he is actually found guilty of something. Yes he should perhaps have tempered his actions last night but isn't it odd how this is rather reminiscent of the Wayne Rooney witchunt. Seems that fine, upstanding, agenda driven establisment known as the British sports media has a new whipping boy.

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Be nice to know what your thought are on it thenry.:)

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Unfortunately Spearing's challenge was a stonewall red card if you're playing by today's rules. You would have seen this week-in and week-out 20 years ago but you can't follow through with the studs even if you get the ball first even if it's due to momentum. He didn't need to make that challenge.

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he got the ball but the follow through was dangerous which warrants a red

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Ah would you be saying that if it was a Arsenal player.;)

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probably. I'm not calling for him to be on the gallows although I couldn't say the same about Suarez

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Players should learn to tackle.

There are so few defenders who can cleanly win a ball by timing their tackle and doing so whilst maintaining control of their body. The reason Spearing's challenge so was bad was the same reason Shawcross' tackle on Ramsey was bad, neither were intended nor malicious, but were desperate lunges for the ball in which they throw themselves at the challenge and lose control. When they do this they are gambling on the tackle being successful and they are gambling on the the risk of injury to their fellow players. This is why these tackles are deserving of red cards.

Again it's a consequence of our approach to the game. It's the prioritisation of strength and speed over technical ability. We like defenders who use their strength to push players off the ball, ones who clatter a opposition player and win the ball. Even as we get over this bias in our midfield and attacking players, slowing trying to improve technical ability in these areas, we remain stuck with this 'big, hard man' view of a British centre back. Yet the best defenders are the ones who read the game and can intercept a pass, can funnel opposition players away from danger areas without touching them, and who only make a sliding tackle when they can dispossess a player with minimum contact. Timing and anticipation. This doesn't look as dramatic as completely clattering a player and emerging with blood on your fact like a true warrior.

There is a reason Association Football broke away to form a separate path from rugby.

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Champions League results.

Apoel Nicosia 0-2 Shakhtar Donestck
Barcelona 4-0 BATE Borisov
Chelsea 3-0 Valencia
Dortmund 2-3 Marseille
Genk 1-1 Bayer Leverkusen
Olympiacos 3-1 Arsenal
Porto 0-0 Zenit St Petersburg
Viktoria Plzen 2-2 AC Milan

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/league/...league?cc=5739

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The racism issue is relevant because he has been charged and is not being investigated now. He has a case to answer, if there was no evidence he wouldn't have been charged. The media reaction would have 10x what it has been if it was Rooney swearing at fans. I wonder if Suarez will get the two match ban? Theres always a reason why the media start picking on certain players and Suarez is giving the media a fair few reasons.

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Wenger said... "I don't think we had the right tactical approach"

yup, same old. we should have gone 4-4-2 and not played Arshavin.. the guys a disgrace. Santos went off injuried, didn't even need to play.. I wanted the same team and formation set out to play City out tonight but it seems suffocation is needed not urgency in our game :banghead:

anyway, still topped the group bring on the knock outs.

Marseille go through too in our group after a shocker in Germany but then again Dortmund have folded on more than one occasion in Europe. Stick that on your step Mr Gotze Senior!!

Chelsea win and go through, no major upset.

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AVB post match LOL

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Suarez is innocent until proven guilty and the evidence, whatever it may be, you refer to is known only to the parties involved. If he is found guilty then he will take his punishment until then it's a charge and nothing more. The FA are obliged to investigate the incident because a complaint was made and they cannot just dismiss the complaint out of hand as there is the danger that it may discourage individuals who have genuinely suffered racial abuse from coming forward.

The media pick on certain players because it's a cheap-shot story and the sports journalists who inhabit the lower tiers of the food chain base their careers on churning out lazy, ill-informed drivel: sound-bite journalism tailored to influence the thinking of the masses. No different to the crap you read on the front of the mail or any of the other gutter red-tops.

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http://www.sportinglife.com/football...medium=twitter

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A bleak night for both Manchester clubs with them both on the verge of going out in the group stages.

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can't remember the last time matchday 6 was exciting. loads of movement. Lyon sneak into 2nd with goals galore and Ajax 2 down against Real Madrid. Only need Group B to wake up and it'll be a night to remember.. not that it isn't already :D

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Ajax had two perfectly good goals disallowed for off-side as well (ended up losing 3-0).

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Champions League Scores


Ajax0-3Real Madrid



Benfica1-0Otelul Galati



Dinamo Zagreb1-7Lyon


FC Basel2-1Man Utd


Inter Milan1-2CSKA Moscow



Lille0-0Trabzonspor


Man City2-0Bayern Munich


Villarreal0-2Napoli




http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/

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How on earth did United fail to qualify from that group!? Amazing

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Yes it was easily the easiest group to get through.:shocked:

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unlucky dude are you an Ajax fan? goals will be on in 10 mins, can't comment till then.

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Damien, Den.. everyone dubbed theirs the easiest LOL shocking

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Yeah. Ajax should have been 2-1 up at some point.

In fairness, Madrid didn't field their best side. It feels like Ajax deserved a point from that match though.

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the goals program wont justify that. shame, chin up

anyone remember this - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15853955.stm

:LOL:

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Because we have been completely **** in Europe this season. Every game it seemed the players thought it would be easy and under estimated the opposition, even tonight. We got what we deserved and now have the embarrassment of being in the Europa league, i would have rather finished bottom of the group. Hopefully it gives the players a wake up call and shows Ferguson we need a decent central midfielder brought in.

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unlucky man, 1st was for sure a goal. second a very good shot at goal.. disallowed because one of your players blocked the vision of the goalkeeper? :rolleyes: i didn't see whether he was offside but he looked on? Reals third summed it up, your defender didn't even bother getting back on the line

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Yes l have to agree that Man Utd should have bought a quality midfielder to replace Scholes and failed to do that and are now paying the price.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16064924.stm

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why? is this UEFA wanting the best on show or actually disciplining individuals for stupid stuff

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French betting authority investigates Lyon's Champions League win
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...?newsfeed=true

lol something bad had to come from an epic night in Europe

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Uefa investigate Arsenal's Jack Wilshere after tweet about bet on Emmanuel Frimpong to score against Olympiakos
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...lympiakos.html

:rolleyes:

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16083563.stm

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Man Utd have received more bad news this morning regarding their centre back Nemanja Vidic.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16079897.stm

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Is it me or does there seem to be more serious injurys knocking about this year?

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No there has definitely been quite a few serious injuries this season.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16118791.stm

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:D

ARSENAL UNVEIL STATUES OF THREE LEGENDS
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...icture-special

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16122746.stm

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I have to agree..I find Neville annoying..and don't gert me started on Lineker :)

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Yes its very easy to criticise when you are on TV as a pundit as players and managers are a easy target for sensational or exaggerated headlines and remarks whether its in the written press or on TV.

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Suarez 1-0:cleader::hyper:

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Well Newcastle got trounced. I can almost smell the joys of mid-table looming. :sleep:

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9659363.stm


Arsenal1-0Everton

Bolton1-2Aston Villa

Liverpool1-0QPR

Man Utd4-1Wolves

Norwich4-2Newcastle

Swansea2-0Fulham

West Brom1-2Wigan




Phew thank god Liverpool sneaked a win.

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BBC feed > That is Robin van Persie's 33rd goal of the calendar year, by the way, which is one less than Thierry Henry managed in 2004 and three less than Alan Shearer's all-time record of 36.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmw...t10g4j9_latino

:angel:

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l suspect RVB when he retires will have a statue put up for him as nearly every goal Arsenal scores is scored by him.

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El Clasico... argh!!! :mad: some brilliant football played but the play acting, oscar winning antics, childs play, FAKES!!!! :afire:

3-1 Barca. Madrid should have won to be honest, yeah it was to some extent a game of two halves, Real 1st, Barca 2nd but there were a few chances that went begging for Real which could have seen them win.. may be, Ronaldo heading the ball off target with Valdes left watching was one of them. Anyway Real scored in the first minute, stupid casual playing the ball out from the back from Barca, put under pressure by Real with Benzema getting the final shot on goal to put the home side 1 up. Alexis levelled up with a nice goal half hour in, both sides went into the dressing room at HT level. Madrid played well, you could sense they could actually win but it seems they lost it or lost stamina to keep up the intensity in the second half, real shame :dunce: A deflected shot off Marcelo put Barca 2-1 up then Fabregas :( headed in their 3rd.

the ref done well :tu:

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At least one thing I have found with Neville is that he is not as biased as I expected him to be. And I am afraid as far as criticism of Chelsea goes, that is his job, he is a football critic. Alex Ferguson has gone mad at Roy Keane because of the same who is being paid a lot of money to be a football critic. Manager's should know by now that its part of the job.

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Well its that man and his magic again at the stadium of light as Sunderland score 2 goals in the last 8 minutes of the match to get Martin O'Neill off to a winning start against Blackburn.

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Martin O'Neill's red and white army :cleader::cleader::cleader:

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Well done.

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I am thinking of supporting Chesea, well, for one game anyway starting tonight :)

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Spurs were definately robbed a point, I mean 2/3 handballs and that goal was clearly onside, even the blind saw it.

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Good result tonight ;)

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Mancini got his just deserts tonight, I mean to say, a defender sent off so replace a forward with a defender fair enough, but not two in short order , deJong for Silva smacked of desperation.:rolleyes:

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Not sure what to make of that as an Arsenal fan. Chelsea have moved ahead of us again in the battle for the Champions League spots and now have some momentum. However City won't beat our unbeaten record and might have a confidence blow ahead of our trip up there on Sunday.

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Do you really care about the unbeaten record that much?

I think i'd be more concerned with a backlash rather than it being a confidence blow.

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they'll be fired up next weekend thats for sure. they have always had it in for us from the start with them mentally fixed on us going out the top 4 when in reality it was always going to be someone else :p:

agree that Mancini made a bent move taking Silva off. i ran out to the shop in a bloody mini storm missing the sending off, taking off etc. :(

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well if the fans count as well as they spell/read it wont make a difference :D:D



http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16128922

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Modibo Maiga is in Newcastle having a medical ahead of a proposed £7 Million move to Tyneside.

New strike partner for Demba Ba. Feel a defender will also be bought given the current proof that the squad lacks depth, especially in defence.

Other rumours up here is that Tiote has already agreed to sign for Chelsea.

One last thing. Both Maiga and Ba will be playing in the African Cup of Nations..... So top tip is.. If you need a new striker buy one that's going to absent for a length of time.

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Nice to have it. It's quite a cool thing for the club to have done, zero losses in the entire 38 game league.

Meh, Don't expect to get anything from the game anyway.

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It looks like Darren Fletcher is going to be out for the season because of this stomach illness he has been suffering with. So we surely have to buy someone in January, it will be interesting if we go for a big name or not. Normally Ferguson would avoid it because they will be cup tied in Europe, which obviously isn't an issue this season, but could mean top players wont want to come. Or could there be a shock move for an ex number 7? ;)

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Well, it's better to avoid it because the cost is higher. Granted Ferguson isn't so stupid as to blow £35 million on an Andy Carroll but it still represents worse value. United needed a central midfielder prior to Fletcher's illness (get well soon) anyway, especially one with some creativity, I was surprised they didn't appear to be after Modric.

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I think before Fletcher's illness we would have been ok until the summer, with Anderson and Cleverly back soon hopefully. But now he's out we could have a few problems, although they could be eased with being out of Europe already.

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To be honest I don't think Fletcher's absence will be a big deal. You've been without him rather frequently and the last few years he hasn't been that impressive. United need a great creative play maker again.

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I think if he can stay fit, Cleverley can be that player. We've been a much better side in the games he's played in this season but obviously he has a long way to go to prove he can be that player.

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You have got to remember 2 things one is Cleverly won't be back for at least another 4 to 6 weeks and then he has to get back into form very quickly and after that you have to remember he is still a young player where performances can be inconsistent at times for younger players so in my mind Man Utd need to buy in the transfer window to sustain their Premiership challenge.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16171939.stm

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We need another Cantona to provide the magical spark and another Keane to be the 300bhp midfield engine.

I've never hidden my disdain for Donkey, SAF's biggest waste of money since Veron. He could be sold off for £5m which will help with transfer funds slightly. Rooney is too inconsistent, he has barren spells too often but at least he gives 100% each time unlike Donkey.

Hernandez hasn't had the same impact as last season but being 23 he's got time on his side.

So yes we need a deadly goalscorer, something we haven't had since Ronnie left.

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Yes l have to agree with your many points you have made as yes Rooney is inconsistent and although Hernandez has great talent but he is still young and yes our team could also do with a Cantona and Keane as well but these type of players are rare in their availability and when they do become available they are likely to be snapped up by the moneybags clubs.

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We don't need a striker. Rooney, Hernandez, Welbeck and Berbatov are plenty good enough and then we have others in reserve. At the moment all we really need is a central midfielder. Anything else will wait until the summer.

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But the problem will be buying a quality midfielder in the transfer window in january and l also feel you could be underestimating the loss of Vidic for the rest of the the season and for these two reasons at the end of the season will probably be the difference between winning the title and finishing second.

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Rooney - great player when played up front behind someone else. Too often he has been played in midfield or on the wing.
hernandez - 6 yard goal hanger who offers little with link up play or outside the box.
Welbeck - Never good enough in a million years. Looks ok at United as we create more chancesthan lower league teams
Berbatov - Never been given a chance and never seems to perfor when Fergie plays him

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...s-breaking-leg

He will be a key loss for Spain and Barcelona in their forthcoming campaigns next year.

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:shocked: didn't realize he was 30

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No he is a bit older then l thought he was but his loss will be a big blow to Spain and Barcelona.

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Everton have reached an agreement in principle to bring Landon Donovan back to the Club on a short-term loan from LA Galaxy.

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archiv...ovan-to-return

good news for Everton

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Mario Balotelli was at the centre of another bust-up with one of his own team-mates today.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...round-row.html

brilliant

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Yes Donovan done well in his last stay there and Balotelli well we know what he can do on the pitch but here he is again making headlines off the pitch and there is only so much the manager will tolerate in the end before he gives him his marching orders.