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That is the trouble VM they are not prepared to pay for content, I was told a similar thing about ESPN America in January. I was told "its expensivebut we are trying to find away to bring it to our customers at an affordable price". The way things are going I would rather pay an extra £10.20 a month and get all HD.
Its all very disappointing:rolleyes:
I shall be waiting for infinity ( about 2 to 3 months)and seeing what sort of package I can get from Sky for up to 40 mb bb and TV.

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Maybe a HD+ package is now required? with extra HD channels, that may be seen by some as niche, as some may not want a bigger rise in the cost of XL TV?

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I am also wondering VM need to think of a new XXL TV package or allow per channel uplifts. Its great to have an all encompassing top tier XL TV package but for those clients who really want everything, then some extra may be the route forward. The only issue I can see though is that the channel owners may want a minimum volume subscription/revenue, so building it into the price of all XL TV users is the only way VM can do this, but they don't want to make XL TV too expensive as well so the dilemma for VM.

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This model isn't working in my opinion.

An additional subscription option is required because it is clear lot's of us are just never going to be satisfed with the HD offer as things stand and if they don't do something people will simply jump ship.

If you want content you have to pay for it and I reckon people would, I wish VM would grasp that. I am sick and tired of being at VM's beck and call regarding 'negotiations'. Just charge for it and let us decide whether we want to pay for it but at least give us the choice.

My word even cheapo FTA channels like True Entertainment only appear because they swap out another channel.

I would be really interested to know how many XL customers actually require ESPN included for 'free', of course it's not free and I wonder how much of the sub goes to them and how many non premium HD channels it would pay for.

If people want ESPN they should pay a sub for it, it's not fair everyone on XL paying for it even if they dont want ESPN to subsidise those that do. That might pay for a few extra channels.

And I bet there would be more takers for a HD+ sub in the general customer base than those who would pay for Tivo features, i'm sure of that.

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If they want to hold on to customers who want more HD then they will have to look to do something new quickly. I am only with VM because of BB and a decent package deal. Now with infinity due to be launched here in 2 to 3 months, time is running out for VM to do something as far as I am concerned.

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Can you still downgrade to M and get Catch Up?

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No, M+ is the bottom pack now.

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Read my previous posts I've been saying this for ages I would gladly pay a bit more if it got me ESPNA HD and the many others were missing. My feelings are like alwaysabear , I dont like Sky but if there's only them can provide what you want.

HD is were the growth is

http://www.iptv-news.com/iptv_news/2...wth_is_immense

http://www.fool.co.uk/news/investing...hd-growth.aspx

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I think many, many more average customers would prefer to pay a bit extra for more HD content than pay for Tivo and no extra content, I honestly do.

They certainly seem to with a certain other Pay TV provider.

Even little Smallworld get this, they introduce HD in April and they are charging for it too so it will be interestng what's offered.

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Doesnt sound good if Sky Arts is to "expensive" a phrase that seems to be getting used a lot.

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Another problem now with introducing a HD sub would be with those who already pay the £7.00 sky premium HD sub.

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But the £7 is a premium for Sky Movies/Sports surely which for Sky subscribers is on top of the £10 they pay for HD access. So introducing a fee for some "premium HD channels" would be like VM starting to add some of that £10 Sky customers pay now for ALL their HD channels.

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Sky sports on sky is 20.25 you get them in HD if you take the HD pack at 10.25.

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Correct, my error, we are talking about the HD add-on price only here not the subscription in the first place for Sky Sports. They really know how to charge on Sky, good job I'm not that bothered!

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l have said l am willing to pay a little extra for the extra channels.
they should introduce another tier package so as you say customers who want to can pay the extra, Virgin have to grab the bull by the horn and be more open to customers ideas and suggestions.
At the moment Virgin are not launching enough channels and have been getting rid of some and not replacing them.

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On Sky
Sky Sports is 20.25 and HD pack is 10.25 plus if you take 6 mix that is 24.50
Total is £55.00 but no ESPN like VM.

On VM
Sky Sports is 22.50 and 7.00 HD premium charge plus XL TV 24.50 from April
Total is £54.00

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And although Sky (quite rightly in my opinion) market ESPN as a stand alone channel hence it isn't included for £55 a month they get shed loads more HD channels and a lot more channels in general for that £55. ESPN is a premium channel and as such we should choose whether we want it like we do with other premium channels, no others are included in XL.

VM should make ESPN a stand alone channel and introduce a different pricing structure for XL in my opinion which would allow for more basic HD channels.

Because I am tired of hearing them say 'we cannot afford it'. I am beginning to wonder if they cannot afford it because of all their debts. To be honest I don't care why, they need to look at their offer and fast. If they think a PVR is going to be their saving grace I think they are deluded if the US is anything to go by.

If it wasnt for catch up I would can VM now, I hate some of Sky's practices but i'm not sure I hate them as much as being at VM's beck and call on 'negotiations' that either take forever, or go nowhere.

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So the price difference is the price of ESPN, so it would be £65 for everything on Sky, but all HD channels would be available. Sounds good to me, just need BB speeds to match VM then I will be off.

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Agree, if you want HD Sports the prices are similar then.

However if you are not bothered about having Sky Sports like me, then I am paying £24.50 for XL TV with HD versus £34.75 for Sky with their 6 pack and HD. Now Sky have more HD of course but not on what I regard as essential channels so personally I'm happy with the VM approach and if VM wanted to introduce a "premium HD" channel fee for £5 say, they could still be cheaper than Sky for all but a few channels where Sky would insist (via charging a too high a price) on some form of exclusivity, as is the case right now with Sky Atlantic SD/HD, where exclusivity is determined by Sky taking the view the value of that channel is much higher than VMs view, but that is another debate and another thread on here!

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Here, here,:clap::clap:

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64 actually ESPN is £9.00 for SS subscribers.

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:o: Silly me I cannot add up.

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And you can add another 10 pounds p/m to the sky price if you have HD in two rooms, so it's 24.50 for VM and 44.75 for Sky. VM's pricing works for me!

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With Sky, you get ALL channels that are out and therefore make a charge for that, and its a business and they give there customers what they want - at a reasonable price.

With VM, l believe you get the channels that VM want, and NOT with the customer in mind, Every product is worth a price, and l don't think VM want to pay that price - they want it on the cheap. ie Sky Atlantic for example.

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Must admit I tend to agree

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That's like anything , they both have their pros and cons.

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In fairness you can also add £14 to VM if you have the Sky HD channels in two rooms. And then there's the Tivo charge too if you want that.

And if you are not on XL isn't multiroom with V+ over £10 a month?

When I add on VM's almost extortiante phone charges I don't think there is much between them on price overall but Sky is much more flexible for me.

But they haven't got catch up which is a killer feature for us.

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An extra 20 pounds per month is a big 'con' to me :D

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V+ multiroom with Sky HD channels is over £17 a month on VM without XL you know.

It's just a way to get you to take the top tier which I accept is good value anyway but it's painfully inflexible for me.

How much is Tivo multiroom?

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But I don't have them at all.

This is why there is no 'best' provider; it's what's best for your individual preferences, and even then, there will be compromises.

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I've asked the question a couple of times and never got an answer.

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I would assume it's £6.50 normal additional box rental + £3 TiVo fee

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I agree with that.

I just think VM need to take another look at their pricing structure, it's just too inflexible for me if they keep on saying they cannot afford to offer what a lot of people clearly want. An option to pay more, like with the Sky HD channels would be worth considering at least.

And the blanket inclusion of ESPN in XL is inflexible to, it is a premium channel and as such we should choose whether we want it or not. That way it could free up more money for basic, general HD channels which is what the XL package should be.

Premium channels should be an option for me, not just included whether you want it or not. No other premium channels than ESPN are included.

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This is the question; is the £3 TIVO fee per box or account? If they make it per box, it seems to me that VM are picking up bad habits from Sky.

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I would go along with that and I watch ESPN a lot. If the £24.50 XL got me say another 7 or 8 HD channels I would gladly pay £9.00 for ESPN so long as ESPNA HD was included like on Sky.

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I definitely agree with that.

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Problem is it's set in stone now , can you imagine what would happen If they dropped the ESPN inclusion in the XL pack.

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If you think about it logically why should a premium sports channel be included in XL, it's basically forcing it on you whether you like it or not.

And forcing you to pay for it too as we know it isn't free.

It just seems very inflexible given they are saying they cannot afford certain general HD channels which is surely what the XL pack should be all about. I would guess ESPN must get at least a few quid each month off every XL customer.

Just my opinion though.

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Totally agree and I am a sports fan , XL should be for channels like Sky Arts HD , SKy Atlantic HD , UNiversal HD , Nat Geo Wild HD etc.

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Just a few irrate sports fans?

Absolutely agree.

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I would agree to that.:D

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Up to about 18 months ago I paid £10 a month for NASN (now ESPN America) so that makes sence if we can get as many general HD channels on the XL package.

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Set in stone until the current agreement with VM ends, which I would imagine is also when ESPN would need to negotiate new premiership rights. If ESPN will more packages when the next bidding round comes along, I don't see it remaining in the XL package.

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I remember reading somewhere that Virgin pay ESPN between £1.50 to £2.00 per month for each customer on the XL package. Can anyone confirm if this is true?

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Whilst I agree totally with what your saying, without TiVo VM need to seriously look at using Mpeg4 compression, or introducing some kind of hard drive upgrade service, because the current hard drives on V+HD boxes fill up way too quickly with HD broadcasts. Imagine how much of a struggle it would be with even more HD channels and more HD programmes to record.

Maybe, just maybe, that is one of the reasons why VM are putting so much emphasis on getting TiVo out there. Once TiVo has fully launched, perhaps we'll see a steady stream of new HD channels (I'm probably clutching at straws, but you've got to have hope! :D)

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More HD is planned for this new financial year, also TiVo is MPEG4 compatitble and I'm sure V-HD is too :)

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Yes i think that this is true as i posted a long time ago that the boxes were backwards compatible?

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Compatible it may be, but VM aren't broadcasting MPEG4 yet are they? Or is this something that is in the pipeline?

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Once everyone is on TiVo (incl V-HD) VM will switch to MPEG4.

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tivo will be given to everyone? Those boxes must cost rather alot for virgin, the V+ HD boxes are mpeg4 compatible, surely those are good enough?

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VM are investing in their network/platform ;)

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The Samsung one maybe (?), but the SA V+ certainly isn't mpeg4 compatible.

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I understand that M is still available by going through retentions.

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Only if Customer Relations choose to allow it. You can't just request it.

It's not available otherwise.

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With the channels available on that package you would be better getting a freeview box from the local supermarket and sticking an aerial in the loft.:erm::D

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But the history for this reads differently.


Setanta was added to XL at no extra charge for us.

Setanta went out of business, ESPN took over their content for most things.

ESPN continued where Setanta left off being part of the XL package still with no extra charge.

So how are we paying for it :confused:


OK if they made it a pay channel it would free up some money but who knows what the deal was and how much ?

Might be just enough for one extra HD channel and the lost of an HD channel from XL.......

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Also it would make sense since then Virgin will have only one or two middleware's to maintain providing that the V-HD box gets a Lite Tivo version or something Tivo-esque.

If that makes sense?

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I would rather keep ESPN/ESPN HD in TV XL than have Sky Atlantic or any of the "missing" HD channels.

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Agree with this except for the Sky Atlantic bit

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I think you should pay for it outside of XL as it is a pemium channel.

Why should non sports fans subsidise sports fans?

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Lay off ESPN in the XL package.It's the only reason my other half won't reduce our package.If he did I'd say goodbye to Syfy,,FX and other channels I actually quite like to watch.

If anyone wants to get rid of anything how about the Challenge channels..or the sales channels.:p:

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Don't you have as much of a right to have XL for "Syfy,,FX and other channels I actually quite like to watch" if it didn't contain ESPN, as he has to have XL because it has currently has got ESPN?

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Ok let me word it differently.

ESPN is a pay (premium) channel and that's the point. It is a premium channel if you don't have XL. It's a great offer if you want it, no doubt about that but you cannot possibly think it is free when it is a stand alone channel otherwise.

23 live and exclusive Barclays Premier League games, FA Cup, Scottish Premier League, Guinness Premiership and on and on. There is no way that content comes cheap. And as I said on another thread all that included proves just how good value XL is, but only if you want ESPN.

XL is fantastic value, it really is and I have never said otherwise but part of that sub pays for ESPN, otherwise why is ESPN upto £8 a month?

Another thought, I wonder what will happen if (as is highly likely) ESPN get more Premier League packages in the future, will it still be included in XL? Pure speculation on my behalf but when Setanta had two packages included in XL what happened, I don't need to tell you.

We'll see, don't think for one moment I am slagging off XL other than I feel it is inflexible, that's all.

I am happy for the current model to continue but I would very much welcome the choice of having an additional HD sub for basic HD channels, that's all as it seems it is the only way we can get them and I honestly think it would increase VM's appeal.

Just my opinion.

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Why should non arts fans subsidise arts fans?
I think the channels pay VM for carriage, so we'd be worse off!

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There will always be an element of perveived subsidy for different genres as of course everybody has different tastes.

The point was raised though as ESPN is actually a premium channel, not a basic sports channel like Eurosport or even Eurosport HD so it is obviously expensive to provide. We know how expensive Barclays Premier League costs to provide to pay the monkeys millions who play it!

It must certainly be more expensive than Sky Arts but I know where you are coming from.

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Can we keep all ESPN becoming a Premium or not at

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...l-package.html

Leave this thread to channels that may actually be launching on Virgin Media soon.

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You're probably right.

Cheers Mod ;)

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The arts channels aren't premium channels; ESPN is.

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ESPN channels are great part of the XL package they are the biggest reason for me have XL. Why dose some people just want more and more channels just for the sake of it. Surely it is about programe content that is important.

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That's why many people want Sky Atlantic; it has new, award winning shows on it.

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Is the Sky on demand content still planned to arrive on VM ?

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Do not know it may be to expensive:erm:

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Yes, Sky Atlantic it looks good on the adds on Sky. But I do not think we will be getting it any time soon, Sky have used Atlantic to give two fingers up to Virgin and its customer. I remember get Sky One and was very excited be now I hardly watch it .

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Looks like you're getting nothing anytime soon. Can't even get sky arts HD for god sake :rolleyes: of course virgin reps on here will continue to trot out that you'll receive early christmas presents then oh just wait and see what happens at the start of the financial year:rolleyes: what next in time for your summer holidays?:D

Be honest with yourselves as far as tv is concerned yer getting hee haw while sky pile it on:p:

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But SKY Atlantic is soooo popular........................................... ........................................not even with SKY customers.:D:D:D

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The only one that counts for me on there is the financial year as i do not celebrate Christmas and never go on holidays.

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Mad Dogs was good but there is little we watch on Sky 1, it's encouraging they finally seem interested in UK productions though. Their rumoured purchase of Shine Productions (the biggest independent production company in the UK which they already have a share in, and was set up and run by Murdoch's daughter) is hopefully a sign that they have finally realised a lot of British people still prefer British programmes but we will see.

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Hilarious;) wouldn't surprise me if Virgin dropped tv altogether soon, you're going nowhere:D

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Your surnames not Scrooge is it LOL :D

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I don't believe that Sky have any intention of letting any other provider carry Atlantic while it's a free channel on their platform. You'll note that it's also unavailable to BT Vision and TalkTalk customers. I think that they've probably priced it artificially high so that they can say "well, we've offered it to other providers but they're not interested". Once it moves into the Variety Pack later this year I'm sure the situation will change.

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Agree and disagree there are also some excellent US shows it's finding a nice mix , the problem I've found with US dramas is they don't know when to end a show , look at Prison break a great show but should have ended after 2 seasons. The wife loves her fix of Desperate Housewives and Greys Anatomy.

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I fully agree with that.

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I agree with you........................................https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/12/10.gif






OH No!!! I forgot we have TiVo which is the future not the past, and again it will have 3 tuners so unlike a SKY HD box plus free technician visits for the whole term of your contract without even having to argue with the CSR, plus a real VOD system which is the best par none in all polls.https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/03/66.gif

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Sadly for you virgin apostles they have given up on tv and are no threat to sky whatsoever. Virgin as a progressive viable tv provider are finished.

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That's pretty much what convinced me to stay with cable.

Anyone who thinks Sky have no problems should read this

http://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-HD-S...-70/td-p/40819

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No it is not :D I have just never enjoyed what is called the festive period. Also in regards to holidays why would I want to go away and spend it with BRITISH people when I can stay at home and do that:erm:

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[QUOTE=Masque;35186955]I agree with you........................................https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/12/10.gif

You'll have plenty of space on yer TiVo cos ye've no channels to record. Like you say you can always watch porridge on on demand. You're history love x

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You can be one of the few who loves SKY Plankton Atlantic as even their customers are unimpressed.

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Can i just ask why VM are history? Could it just be because dandelion and burdock has got the green light to take over SKY?

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[QUOTE=Henkesghost;35186962]While I do believe Virgin need to add more HD channels , it's a bit strong to say there's no channels to record when in fact XL has around 160 channels and hours and hours of on demand and catch up.

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I agree that elements of VM's VOD are excellent. No doubt about that.

But playing devils advocate surely only VM customers can vote on how good it is in polls, what polls do you refer to by the way?

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It must be dark in sky's growing shadow;)

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I think I meant reviews, it even came top on the Gadget show a while back.

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Only after sunset?

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That's not quite the same thing but it is good though.

I always like to hear peoples views who have used a variety of OD providers, I feel they are best placed to give a balanced critique.

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You have a choice... if VM isn't giving you what you want then move on... https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2012/07/9.gif

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Tell us what channels you would like VM to add ?

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DF where is the OD content from Pop, I thought it was launching when the linear channel closed?

There is Tiny Pop content but hasn't that always been there, or did Ben mean it was Tiny Pop OD content that was joining. I am not 100% sure if it has always been there though.

It's just when I emailed CSC about it they never mentioned Pop was joining TVC. it was quite a standard reply though.

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I have tried SKY but after having them replace 3 STB's in a 4 month period we got rid as they broke the contract due to shoddy service, plus a 10 day wait for an engineer, never ever again, I would get Freesat before a SKY box.

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I'm not sure.. is it not in "More On Demand" , Kids?

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Sky currently have an issue where when you flick up to an HD channel you get NO SATELLITE SIGNAL BEING RECEIVED , it's causing problems when the box is off and you have two recordings set . Not great when you only have two tuners LOL :D

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Who on here cares if they have a problem:D At least we have 3 tuners.

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Sorry I thought you were just referring to the OD content side of things.

I have read Samsung Sky boxes seem to be quite unreliable (I don't think they are issued anymore though) but the newer Amstrad boxes are excellent as Sky own it and it's obviously in their interest to build them like a tank!. To be honest if a Sky box failed out of warranty (and obviously out of contract) I would just cancel if they didn't offer to replace it, as simple as that.

My dad has had a standard Pace Sky box for years without problems so it does seem a mixed bag.

My LCD display is shot on my Samsung V+ and it's less than a year old, assuming it was new when I got it but I know I could phone up and get it fixed or replaced for free I was just worried I might get a replacement SA box as I often record radio shows so have never bothered as otherwise it's fine.

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I was informing people that the grass isn't always greener not promoting them.