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I've looked at Virgin's phone prices and compared them with BT. By the time I've factored in features to compare a like for like service I'm better off with BT. I'm dissappointed I won't get TiVo next week but I know I'll get it eventually. I'll just have to enviously read everyone elses posts about their shiny new TiVos. ---------- Post added at 15:08 ---------- Previous post was at 14:43 ---------- Quote:
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Just received this confirmation of the boxes on the VIP50 PACK.
Dear Mr. , It has been confirmed today, that if a VIP 50 customer who takes TiVo in their main room and wishes to keep their V+ box in their second room (returning the V HD) - they will incur no additional cost. You will only be charged £10/month extra if you keep both your existing boxes after the TiVo box is installed i.e. you have 3 boxes (The TiVo, V+ and V HD) Regards, No idea of other packs? |
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Posted on Sofa Forum by James Skelton
Thanks for your interest in our TiVo powered service. We've had an amazing response since we launched this product. You may have heard that some lucky Virgin Media customers have been sent a TiVo remote control alongside a special offer. These people were randomly selected from a group of our longest serving customers. But don't worry if you weren't one of the recipients of this offer - we've got something else up our sleeve. We'll soon be offering all our VIP 50, VIP 20 and XL TV customers (who also have Virgin Media Broadband and Phone) the chance to become one of 1000 lucky customers to win a special TiVo deal and we're continuing to prioritise our existing customers to make sure they are the first people in the country to get a hold of this fantastic new service. We'll also be doing something special for our non XL TV customers that have registered their interest online at www.virginmedia.com/tivo. We've been busy collating all of their details and will be in touch very soon to let them know when they will be able to get the service. We'll be making sure that they get a chance to get their hands on TiVo in a pre-sale window, before we make this available to the general public. But more about that soon. We know that people are excited about getting our new TV service, and we're working hard to make sure our customers find out about the great deals that will be available and get installed as quickly as possible. At last some information :D but still no dates :erm: Now who wants to be one of the new 1000 :angel: |
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Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
:) I've been waiting for TiVO since this time last year. A few more weeks isn't going to kill me. I'd ruddy love a personalised remote though - that's awesome! |
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Maybe they learnt from the complaints on the forums over the first 1000? |
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At least this time we know its going to happen and so shouldn't cause friction etc :cool: |
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I know this has probably been asked already but with the TiVo box, will both the HD output and the Scart output both work at the same time in order to send the menus with an AV sender?
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I bet an engraved TiVo remote :doh: Now what do you put up :Peace: :handshake |
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friction will only occur if they fail to actually inform people how they choose the 1000 .... if an actual random draw but those participating know they are in it then there shouldnt be any friction ... if however they repeat the 'pick 1000 random peeps and tell no one about it' draw then i suspect it will again cause friction
i still maintain the fairest thing is everybody gets the same deal just staggered over a time period that fits with the number of installers available starting with the longest serving loyal customers and working through to the newest ... then surely no one can have a resonable moan groan or whinge information though is welcome even if its way to late or maybe it was the couriers who were too early with the remotes ... come on VM get the facts out and about early and in full detail so the customers know what is happening before war breaks out on internet forums :D |
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Heres what I dont get about this TIVO launch VM state TIVO will be open to new customers in April however they still have to get 20000 or so existing VIP20/50 and XL pre reg customers installed. Maybe its me but this seems a lot to get installed in around 7 weeks. Maybe some of the VM staff would no better , and out of the 20000 or so pre reg you can probably chalk a good few thousand off.
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Given the number who've said 'not paying that' I suspect the numbers wanting install that quickly aren't even close to that. Even some of the preregs are turning it down because they have to take XL, etc. We're still very much in early adopter territory.
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I got a phone call today from the "Tivo team" and its being installed on the 16th. woop! Looks like they are starting to do the pre-registered people now. Just had to pay for the box nothing else.
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Are you on VIP or just a TV XL customer?
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"Services: Virgin: 50Mb Broadband XL TV XL Phone V+ VHD" |
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Thats a triple XL package with XXL BB not VIP. Its what I have. Although it could be a VIP package. |
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Sorry I didn't reply, was in work ;-) I've got sports and movies and the premium HD, but wasn't officially classed as VIP until Dexter sorted it out on the phone with me. I was paying 108 quid rather than £97.40.
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I'm not going to believe anything anymore until Virgin either contact me due to pre-registering or I read it on their website |
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If they want existing customers installed in March surely pricing for the service should be out there now.
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Agreed, I reckon you'll all have calls soon. There was a lot of chatter in the background when the call came through so I'm guessing they have many people making the calls. :-)
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£149 for a piece of equipment you don't even own and have to pay an additional monthly fee to use. Yikes.
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I'm unsure whether I believe this offer to be the 'norm'. Maybe it's because you have VIP50 service that the install fee is waived :confused: Only time will tell, I guess. |
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It was also posted to the Community Forum http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/.../330591#M38380
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Thanks Ben.
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I wouldnt object to the £149 as a payment for a new improved product ... i just dont see that i need it for my TV habits
I also object to VM only accepting payment in advance paid by card on the phone ... add to fact my personal feelings are ... I wont pay for something that others on the same package as me are getting for free .. and i know some will call that jealously or petty ... but thats my feelings about it ... fairness for all , equality and all that guff :D ( i dont want a personalised remote just the same deal as others on my package) thats my views of which no doubt most will disagree but shucks .. im allowed em anyway :p: |
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that's the deal on the table, plenty will snap VM's arm off for it. :) |
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The £3 a month is for enhanced peg data, a dedicated 10 meg BB connection plus apps etc to use that connection. Oh and it's not a purchase, it's an upfront rental fee...... It's great value for money if these are things you want. If you are happy with what you have then it doesn't matter what the upfront fee etc is. ;) |
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VM's pricing model (and I'm not going to enter in to an argument here!) is totally different to Sky's. Sky sell you the equipment and it's yours. Sky have got a portion of their cost to them back straight away (£250 for a 1TB box)... if anything goes wrong after the 12 months then it's up to you to pay for repairs/replacement. or pay Sky's warrenty. With VM, they ask you to pay an upfront rental fee to cover a portion of the cost. If anything goes wrong EVER while you are a customer then you get repairs and a replacement Free for life. Plus any subs refunded for the days without a service. :) ---------- Post added at 11:10 ---------- Previous post was at 11:09 ---------- Quote:
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I prefer to look at it as a lifetime warranty, if you keep the box for say 4 years it's cost you £37.50 a year for unlimited repairs or a replacement.
---------- Post added at 11:23 ---------- Previous post was at 11:16 ---------- Just out of interest does anyone know the date Virgin open the pre reg up , I know it was December just not quite sure when. |
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VM's pricing model is way better than Sky's IMHO and considering the price of the Sky HD box, I think the TIVO pricing is very good value. |
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I totally agree with all that passingbat! I personally think the rental of the box is far more beneficial to the customer. You can't use Virgin boxes anywhere, and really you can't with Sky either, you just get Freeview with no subscription.
Do I take it then that calls are still going out from the Tivo team and now normal customers are receiving them? |
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Sorry to hear about the ankle though mate :( |
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Does anyone know, if you miss a call and do a 1471, do you get:
The telephone number of the caller Caller withheld their number Call was from a network... Thanks |
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I was swithering last week and it would have been the boredom factor that would have sold me on it. I generally don't watch a great deal of tv but just looking for things to fill my time until may. I'm sure at the start there will other people to take my place but £149 is something i am not prepared to give Virgin Media now. I am am sitting here costing out options which is something I would have been doing last week. |
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I had the call about 30mins ago .... hoorah
and I'm not a VIP customer.... just triple XL. However, they couldn't book me in for an install as the system already holds an upgrade for me booked for 16th to go from BB-XL to BB-XXL :mad: That's ridiculous that the two couldn't go on the system at the same time.... have to call back once my XXL upgrade had gone through. Very annoying as TiVo is far more important to me than my BB upgrade :td: |
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I got a call last night and booked an install on Sat 19th for £149, also got another call just now but thought one would be enough for now ;)
Are sales doing calls now also? Last night was the outbound tivo team on 0161, today was the usual 0800 052... A. A. |
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Just had my phone call only on xl tv. Told the lad on the phone I wouldn't have the money till pay day at end of the month he said no problem and gave me a direct phone to call before the end of the month to get it for £149
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Are people getting these calls to their landlines? Or are they calling mobiles?
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perhaps they are now calling peeps in order of their registration of interest :confused: ... especially as they are now calling XL customers but yesterday said a further 1000 lucky lotto winners would get a special deal ...
i hope the £149 price isnt the special deal :shocked: anyway good luck to those being called , hope its all plain sailing for you |
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Cheers! I'll keep an eye on them both then ;)
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Aside from the fact they were calling Tivo and VIP customers first - now they are calling us 'ordinary folk' (TV XL), are they calling from alphabetical lists? I hope not, my surname begins with W !! :erm:
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Vm don't with-hold their number when calling, so likely to be 0800 or 0161 etc. :)
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the £199 + £40 i understood to be for new customers not for existing customers but then VM havent exactly been forward with their pricing so far |
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How can anyone moan about 149 that's a great price for new kit.
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I get sick of this 149 for a box you don't own , the Sky 1tb box is about 249 and ok you own it but really what good is it without a Sky sub. Basically it just becomes an expensive freest receiver.
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Had a number witheld this morning, so wasn't VM. |
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But they get to sell it. So £249 for a box, less £150 or so for it being 12 months old so you sell it for £100 and buy a new one or keep it longer and sell it for less with possibility of it breaking down. However we poor VM suckers will pay £149 for something we don't own so can't get the pleasure of selling it, changing it every 12 months for extra cost or the please of waiting for repairs without rebate for loss of service like those lucky Sky customers. We don't even get the chance to have to pay to see any non territorial channel HD. :shocked: I mean what am I supposed to do with that £10.25 a month? I just can't understand it :D |
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Does a phone call re Tivo give the impression of a cold call - ie you wait for a response when you pick the phone up or you hear an Indian voice. My response is usually short and sweet without waiting to hear what I am being asked to buy if I suspect a cold call.
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Just got Tivo installed today, everything looks wicked, only has twitter,ebay,utube,weather,and celebrity, but should be more to come I hope.
not sluggish like the reports I read on it, does have one bug I have noticed. It sticks sometimes after going into the guide if you press to many buttons in guide.:) |
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Any chance you could find the time to do some videos and upload for us less fortunate people to drool over ?? |
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Just booked my install for 17th Feb. VIP50 owner and S1 Tivo owner. Asked about what happens if the sub forms part of any VIP package in the future and told that it would automatically apply. Also told that I will be entered into a draw for a free TiVo and the £149 refunded if I get lucky. Here's waiting in anticipation for next week. :-)
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Just a quick note about recording capacity.
The figure of 500hrs is being banded about, just had a look on system info on the TiVo box, and the info says 99hrs of HD or 325hrs of standard. Don't know if this is set to increase in the future, but this is what is available now... Roll on march for the third tuner and upgrades! |
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My point regarding the 'equipment you don't own' thing is that it essentially skanks customers like me, who move about regularly and not always to areas with VM.
Everytime I move out of area then back again I'm expected to pay a different cacophony of made up 'connection fees' and 'rental charges' on top of whatever they may or may not charge for installation. If I'm expected to pay £149 towards the cost of a box I'd like to have some assurance I wont be expected to pay the same again 36 months down the line. |
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HOWEVER, I've never, ever had a Sky salesman even come close to matching the VM equivalent package, never mind beat it, and then where's Sky's on demand service... And in the 9 years I've been with NTL/VM, I've had 2 boxes, and that's only because I moaned to CS that my silver box was so slow. Don't recall paying for either, so in all, excellent deal. Sounds like you shouldn't get TiVo anyway. It's not a must have, as you can get at all the content through V+ menus anyway. If £150 is too much for 1TB storage and more intelligent EPG, don't get it. Besides, wait a couple of years and the TiVo box will probably be next to free anyway as the old V+ boxes get retired. Boz |
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Three calls from different guys today, i'm doing well, lol :)
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Read my post again, it was tongue in cheek.....:erm: I wouldn't go back to Sky even if they offered it all for half price for a year :shocked: Give up my 50 meg, free HD and soon to be TiVo :eeek: |
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Does anyone know if you can keep V+ and replace a standard box?. Speaking to CS today
and was told if tivo replace V+ they have to take V+ away. |
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Just tell them its to replace the standard box and swap them over before installer due to arrive. They have no idea of which box is in which room. :D |
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