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Sky and VM are in 'active negotiations' over getting Living HD on Sky platform - makes sense to me... VM for once have some leverage. They may be able to negotiate a HD like for like "swap" ... maybe Sky One HD on the XL package???
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Thats one big swap Andrew LOL ;)
I think myself it will more likely be Sky 1 HD. Not sure Living is leverage for Sport ore Movies. Hell (or Ofcom) will freeze over B4 we get that. |
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With a deal for living HD we'll see Sky one HD and the other Sky basics HD channels coming the same way at most. There is zero chance that VM could get Sports or Movies from offering Living HD, Sky would just laugh at them if they went to the table asking for them (and rightly so).
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Sky ONeHD would be very cool for the last series of Lost... apart form the odd Simpsons episode i don't really watch Sky 1.
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not sure how much leverage VM will have with Living HD. As we know from the past deals VM have to get their channels on Sky for the advertising revenue and reach. They can't really afford to play hard ball and lose out on viewers, even Sky found this out when their channels weren't available to VM and htey have a lower subscriber account than Sky
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A HD channel gives you limited extra ad revenue, the adverts are the same regardless of if it's SD or HD, and if a HD channel isn't on the platform then viewers will be seeing the same ads on the SD version instead. There's very few people that will only watch HD to make any sort of increase in the ad revenue a channel generates. |
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I was just checking if there were any channels testing (there wasn't btw) and there is a channel number 510 called Security Fraud Information, it's provisioned but you can't view it if you type the number in on the EPG. Does anyone know what this is?
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What a joke the four announced channels are :(
Why are people defending VM's HD offering by suggesting that atleast they have brought some channels and that they are popular to a lot of people!? Err no. They really aren't. The priority channels are clearly things like: Terrestrial 1 - 5 and associated channels Eurosport 1 Eurosport 2 Discovery HD channels Even some music/film/sky 1 - 3 channels/bravo etc would have been better than the tripe they are getting first. I agree it is embarrasing and should have waited until they had atleast ONE decent channel to headline them with. I'm off to get excited about watching the food channel in HD. Yay. |
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I personally watch a lot of stuff on Nat Geo so to get it in HD now will make it even better. Same goes for FX and Living. Its a great start and once VM get a few more then hopefully Ofcom will have sorted out Sky's hold on their HD channels and we'll get them too. I wouldn't be surprised if Eurosport HD is one of the channels they are trying to get. |
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Eurosport 1 has a mere 0.2% viewing share, Eurosport 1 has 0.1%, Discovery has 0.2% as well. Both Living an FX have more than these, and even Good Food manages to get 0.2%. But yes, they should have gone with your list which is clearly of more popular channels, even though the BARB figures for viewing share completely disagrees with you. |
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You can read stats and stats all day at what channels have the most viewers. I don't care for such statistics. What matters are that the channels that would truely benefit from HD are prioritised. i.e. especially sport. |
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Well there only 1 sport channel outside of sky sports in hd eurosport hd there no eurosport 1 and 2 hd, espn hd isnt launched yet so it coudl still come in time or jsut a little bit into the start of the seasonm. Only itv and ch4 hd are the missing terristal chanslle five dnt have one maybe a bit of research before you saying channels oyu want might be best, as oyu will find that it sort of covered on virgin either now with channels or vod. but i will give you sports is NOT COVERED IN HD ON VIRGIN yet |
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This is one of the quotes that stand out for me in the press release :
Neil Berkett, chief executive officer of Virgin Media, said: "As more homes become HD-ready, the launch of four new HD channels marks the next stage in the evolution of our pioneering TV service. Our line-up of HD channels and hugely popular on demand content is a unique and winning combination and we'll continue to bring more sport, films, entertainment and documentaries to our customers." But also in reply to media boys post earlier: virginmedia: @Inaba_kun No subscription bolt-on, however there will be some more HD channels we'll be announcing which will be available to M & L too. These could be the eurosport hd , bio hd and also history hd and who know there could also be 4hd and also itv hd? |
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hi im new however i have been a long time lurker :) ...ANYWAY...
im slightly confused as on some bits of news it says that LIVING HD will launch some time near the end of the month and on other bits of news it says it will launch up to mid september??? Can someone please give me the correct answer to When is LIVING HD ACTUALLY going to launch on Virgin Media? Thanks in advance. |
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In answre to bOOthers, the extract below is taken from http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html...n-i-watch.html
Coming soon in HD From the end of July you'll be able to watch FX, National Geographic and MTV in glorious HD. And they'll be joined soon after by LIVING, available to viewers in HD for the first time. |
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Setanta Sports UK fall out: Sky Sports snub UFC TV deal.
ESPN now look set to win the right to show UFC PPV's starting with UFC 101, which takes place on August 8. The Ultimate Fighter to stay on Virgin 1. http://tellychannelsnews.blogspot.co...c-tv-deal.html |
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Wow the announced hd channels are really really poor.
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Setanta Sports UK fall out: Rangers and Celtic get together to buy up TV rights for SPL football.
RANGERS and Celtic are planning to launch their own TV channel and bid for the rights to Scottish football. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/sc...6908-21518563/ Info from Daily Record. |
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I posted this earlier:
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...pn-page-6.html Personally I think this is viable but the timescale involved probably means it isn't realistic. There's an awful lot to put in place before the start of the season. Do Celtic and Rangers own their Sky epg slot? Who would produce shows, take subscriptions, sell rights overseas? Setanta made a lot of money when the only thing they had on their portfolio was the SPL. Celtic and Rangers have a phenomenal worldwide fan base. I was quite happy to be one of the first subscribers to Setanta for the Scottish football and would be quite happy to subscribe to SPL TV or what ever they would call it. I just don't see it happening.. |
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I'm just wondering what people really expected, I'd say that these are some of the most watched channels that are available to VM in HD, so I don't really know what else people expected? Other than these the only other real priorities would be Ch4, ITV, and Eurosport, followed closely by Discovery, History and Sci-Fi. Of those ITV is tied up to freesat still, and the rest VM are apparently in negotiations with (or in the case of Ch4 apparantly have a deal done for) and some have apparently even been testing. |
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Quite simply I dont agree with you Nook29.... Your wanting to introduce a "face palm" emoticon is a mechnisim to cut short an opinion implying that it is not worthy of continued discussion. Everybodys opinion is valid (yes even yours). I dont actualy object to your use of the face palm emoticon but if you do use it then dont be surprised if people think it is a childish way to carry on a debate. Lets face it (excuse the pun) if I recall correctily the "talk to the hand coz the face aint listening" mentality grew up through caracters designed to be funny (EG Cathrine Tates characters), so dont be surprised if people think you are a bit daft for wanting to use it. Like you I get a bit fed up if people continualy repeat the same opinion again and again, but it is their opinion and they are entitled to express it. If I am getting fed up with an individuals posts I just scroll past them. I hope you continue to contribute to the forum, I have enjoyed your posts as much as some peoples and less than some others. But it would be great if you didnt feel the need to attempt to belittle a persons opinion just because you find it repetative or not worthy (and yes I am aware that you say you have only usd face palm 4 times in the last month.... 4 times more than most other people have felt necessary). |
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I am aware they're entitled to their opinion, but I only ever facepalm their opinion when they seem to think if something doesn't please them then it's rubbish. I'm not belittling trying to belittle to their opinion, I'm letting them know what they're saying is ridiculous. If I was belittling opinion, I'd reply to everyones post which doesn't share my view on the announced channels with several facepalms, which as you may have noticed, I haven't. |
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My channels watched mostly are the beeb, itv1,2,3 and 4, channel 4 and 5, Tcm and sky movies and sports. Nat geo discovery and history would also squeeze into the viewing. I notice a few people refer to the vod and filmflex for a larger selection of Hd but who in their right mind will pay for these overpriced films that can only be watched within 24 hours when you can literally puchase a dvd for the same price " if not cheaper" and watch as many times as you like.
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The four new HD channels are certainly a good start. Maybe not the channels I would have chosen, but I'm pleased none the less. The move certainly gives me hope that VM are taking HD seriously at last and hopefully this is the start of things to come. If History and Eurosport do materialise along with UKTV Food HD(!) then there should be something for everyone on the HD front. Fingers crossed ESPN HD will be snapped up as part of the negotiations for the new channel too.
Nat Geo, History and FX were previously deemed unlikely due to their tie ups with Sky/News Corp, but these obstacales are now being overcome. It would seem that Discovery HD would be a realistic addition now too. With Freeview HD set for a December launch in initial regions, I believe they'll be full time ITV HD and Five HD channels available. Surely these will be realistic targets along with CH4 HD at this point. I'm sure I've read that VM are set to switch off the analogue service in October, so hopefully bandwidth will not be an issue after this. So is it now realistic to expect a decent amount of HD channels by early next year, or am I living in cloud cookoo land? :) |
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Personally I think it's realistic to expect a HD lineup that consists of the following by early next year: BBC HD ITV HD CH4 HD Five HD Living HD Good Food HD FX HD MTV HD National Geo HD History HD Discovery HD Sci FI HD Eurosport HD ESPN HD That really isn't too much of a stretch for them. But then I'd say it's also possible for VM to have launched the likes of Bravo and Virgin1 in HD as well, plus it shouldn't be too hard for them to get the other channels from the same networks as well? The likes of Nat geo wild, Bio, and Crime and Investigation... Tbh, I'd say it's not that unrealistic to expect them to have all the non-sky HD channels within the next year. Of course at that point Sky may also think it's now no longer worth withholding HD from VM, especially if there are HD versions of all the main VMTV channels which can be offered in exchange, and we might even see Sky basics in HD... wait, now I'm entering cloud cuckoo land aren't I? |
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I also think that would be a good HD line-up to have although, as you say, I don't expect the Sky channels to appear on VM any time soon.
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Virgin Media add an new ''TS Strams'' to Ex-Telewest.
I have just found that Virgin Media has added an new ''TS Strams'' to Ex-Telewest in my area. Maybe something to do with the HD Channels that are coming within the next six weeks? I have now got 35 ''TS Strams.'' |
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The thought occurs that maybe these preliminary four HD channels "could" be VM's basic HD package free to all XL subscribers.
Then say in a few months they release Eurosport HD, History HD Discovery HD and maybe a few more, and these are packaged as VM's "upper tier" of HD which if wanted inccur a small monthly cost. Of course this is only speculation, but VM must be thinking of ways to recoup their out-lay for these channels, and the above doesn't seem inconceivable. |
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I think Europsort et al will be the middle ranked HD channels linked to M & L !!
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I'm gonna jump now from M to XL TV. Cost another £11.50 minus the V+ charge I'm paying and I'll get them to knock off mobile call charge discount from land line (never use it) so it's only costing £4 to move. That's not bad...............is it? :erm:
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i'm waiting until the channels launch before upgrading. Will see if there is anything I want to watch on them and how often I will watch it. FX do show The Wire but I can see that on BBC Two
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I know i know that we've just been given 4 HD channels, but do any of you "insiders" have any idea if it's pretty definate we'll be getting Europsort HD and if so any ideas when??
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Well, its a start, at least virginemedia are starting to compete with Sky.
The good news is as well is that if you have the XL Pack you wont have to pay extra for HD channels like you would do with sky. Maybe we will be seeing a totally different channel line up by the end of the year. |
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Has there been no word on Virgin changing their encryption? I find it amazing that their current encryption system is still in place considering the thousands and thousands who use boxes to watch all the channels.
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we have only had 1 post saying the channels that were in testing, there has been 0 proof, i wish people wouldn't believe everything they read. Like with a guy who said channels would launch on may 1st or something in dsforums saying remember where you heard it first, mediaboy then posted on page 1 to show that it would happen but it didn't. Unfortunately some people lie like with doctored screenshots and fake photos of new products so we should believe nothing until we see proof, eurosport may not be in testing.
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This article http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcas...rts-in-hd.html seems to suggest negotistion are still nderway for ESPN to be shown on VM... i thought the SD deal had been done and was definatly on VM and only HD was being negotiated...what gives??
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Virgin is rumoured to be set to start launching the new HD Channels from July 30th - mid August. With Living HD coming in September. I think I know the EPG Channels numbers for the new HD Channels (NOTE: The following EPG may move): FX HD may launch on Virgin Channel 158. Living HD may launch on Virgin Channel 159. Nat Geo HD may launch on Virgin Channel 232. MTVNHD may launch on Virgin Channel 314. Plus as of Saturday July 11th, Eurosport HD and History HD was not testing in an Ex-ntl area of Virgin Media. ---------- Post added at 23:26 ---------- Previous post was at 22:57 ---------- Here is that old post you was looking for: http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/34780199-post806.html |
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Just upgraded to XL TV ready for HD and added unlimited phone calls for less than I was paying originally. Great. :D
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Teletext to shut down in 2010.
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Setanta Sports UK fall out: Scotland game to be shown on BBC Two on August 12th.
Football web site ''Live football on TV'' say BBC has win the rights to show Norway VS Scotland on August 12th. Sky and ESPN was rumoured to be biding for the rights as well. |
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Any news from virgin yet on whether they have reached an agreement with espn yet, still in the dark as per usual
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I have no news on ESPN but Virgin's web site has given them an EPG Channel.
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Is Virgin Media set to broadcast this years Edinburgh Festival?
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