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Ken W 13-01-2021 13:20
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36066504)
Boris got well and truly skewered by Starmer at PMQs today.

To my eyes at least, the children's meal package that Boris said was unacceptable, etc, was pointed out by Starmer to be exactly in line with the official Education Dept. guidance.

Boris could only answer that the Conservatives instituted free school meals, not Labour, plus a load of bumbling waffle.

Skewered and Boris knew it.
I agree

mrmistoffelees 13-01-2021 13:37
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36066498)
I found out as shops are private property that can refuse entry to anyone they want.


Personally I'd ban anyone without a mask, unless they had a Drs letter, then they would only be allowed in at certain times to protect others.


I say Drs leter as you can buy an exemption card online which is pointless.

You're wrong... again....

You CANNOT legally ban someone from entering a store due to a disability.

By law a store CANNOT ask someone what disability they have much less ask them to provide proof of it, but they can ask if someone has a disability.


This is why the announcements from the supermarkets are unfortunately just a token gesture.

Thankfully what you have posted will not occur, imagine telling a group of people in society that they can only shop at certain hours to keep another group of people happy.

Chris 13-01-2021 13:45
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36066507)
You're wrong... again....

You CANNOT legally ban someone from entering a store due to a disability.

By law a store CANNOT ask someone what disability they have much less ask them to provide proof of it, but they can ask if someone has a disability.


This is why the announcements from the supermarkets are unfortunately just a token gesture.

Thankfully what you have posted will not occur, imagine telling a group of people in society that they can only shop at certain hours to keep another group of people happy.
I don't think it's tokenism. If the supermarkets really do the maximum permissible under the Equality Act it will be enough to force the majority of anti-maskers to cave in rather than tell a direct lie about having a disability. After all, if you're taking a principled stand, what's the point lying about it?

They should be able to significantly reduce the problem of unmasked people in their stores, without doing anything illegal.

mrmistoffelees 13-01-2021 13:53
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36066508)
I don't think it's tokenism. If the supermarkets really do the maximum permissible under the Equality Act it will be enough to force the majority of anti-maskers to cave in rather than tell a direct lie about having a disability. After all, if you're taking a principled stand, what's the point lying about it?

They should be able to significantly reduce the problem of unmasked people in their stores, without doing anything illegal.
It's not token intent, but due to the laws it becomes a token gesture. I believe the vast majority will just go 'i have a disability....' and then swan off into the store.

1andrew1 13-01-2021 14:19
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36066510)
It's not token intent, but due to the laws it becomes a token gesture. I believe the vast majority will just go 'i have a disability....' and then swan off into the store.
From what I've read, asking people has proved effective.

Hom3r 13-01-2021 14:46
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36066507)
You're wrong... again....

You CANNOT legally ban someone from entering a store due to a disability.

By law a store CANNOT ask someone what disability they have much less ask them to provide proof of it, but they can ask if someone has a disability.


This is why the announcements from the supermarkets are unfortunately just a token gesture.

Thankfully what you have posted will not occur, imagine telling a group of people in society that they can only shop at certain hours to keep another group of people happy.

Nope 100% right. ;)



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55633843


However, supermarkets can deny entry to their premises which is private property, and can call the police if someone refuses to follow the rules or becomes abusive.

---------- Post added at 14:46 ---------- Previous post was at 14:42 ----------

Also they could use health and saftey at work act.


Which basically has a bit that says the company has a duty of care to protect it staff for harm.


Not wearing on can be classed here.


Plus I didn't say disabled.


I said proof should be provided via a doctors letter not some tat, that can be bought without proof.

mrmistoffelees 13-01-2021 15:12
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36066517)
Nope 100% right. ;)



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55633843


However, supermarkets can deny entry to their premises which is private property, and can call the police if someone refuses to follow the rules or becomes abusive.

---------- Post added at 14:46 ---------- Previous post was at 14:42 ----------

Also they could use health and saftey at work act.


Which basically has a bit that says the company has a duty of care to protect it staff for harm.


Not wearing on can be classed here.


Plus I didn't say disabled.


I said proof should be provided via a doctors letter not some tat, that can be bought without proof.

You're missing the point... All someone has to do is say that they have a disability the supermarket can't then by LAW

a) Ask to see proof
b) Ask what disability they suffer from

As i said the intent is not token, but in reality (and i dont share Chris's optimism although i wish he was right) i suspect it will make little difference

You're wrong...

health and safety at work has nothing to do with it

Paul 13-01-2021 15:56
Re: Coronavirus
 
Ok, Let's move on people, we dont need pages of arguments about masks, time will tell how it pans out.

Chris 14-01-2021 16:12
Re: Coronavirus
 
Travel ban on South American arrivals from Friday - also includes Portugal. HMG is increasingly concerned about another new Covid variant that has been spreading in Brazil.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55666198

papa smurf 14-01-2021 16:51
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36066654)
Travel ban on South American arrivals from Friday - also includes Portugal. HMG is increasingly concerned about another new Covid variant that has been spreading in Brazil.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55666198
Can't wait till we are all begging for a Brazilian vax:naughty:

Hom3r 14-01-2021 17:25
Re: Coronavirus
 
My dad had his Coronavirus Jab this afternoon.


We just parked up joined the queue, asked a few questions, then had to give permission for the jab, after this we had to wait for 15 minutes to make sure there was no reaction.

Pierre 14-01-2021 21:25
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36066669)
My dad had his Coronavirus Jab this afternoon.


We just parked up joined the queue, asked a few questions, then had to give permission for the jab, after this we had to wait for 15 minutes to make sure there was no reaction.
I had my jab today and I had a massive reaction....

Because I arrived naked with a massive ostrich feather sticking out my arse.

Mad Max 14-01-2021 21:31
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36066694)
I had my jab today and I had a massive reaction....

Because I arrived naked with a massive ostrich feather sticking out my arse.


:D:D

joglynne 15-01-2021 12:15
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Covid-19: Brazil variant already in UK, scientist says.

Travellers from South America were banned from entering the UK on Friday.

Transport Secretary Grant Shapps told the BBC this morning he was "not aware" of any cases of the Brazilian coronavirus variant in the UK.

Asked if the Brazilian strain was currently in the country, he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "Not as far as we are aware, I think, at this stage."

But Prof Wendy Barclay, who is heading a newly-launched project to study the effects of emerging coronavirus mutations called the G2P-UK National Virology Consortium, said one Brazilian variant of coronavirus had been detected in the UK.

"There are two different types of Brazilian variants and one of them has been detected and one of them has not," she said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55...ey%20mutations.

Hom3r 15-01-2021 12:36
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36066694)
I had my jab today and I had a massive reaction....

Because I arrived naked with a massive ostrich feather sticking out my arse.
Did the pixies put it there :D


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