Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35872111)

... and this is the claptrap people are right to moan about. Migration and the free movement of people was overwhelmingly the primary concern of those who voted to leave, the EU debate and the general election before it. It was that concern and the resulting surge in votes for UKIP which got us the referendum in the first place. Up until that point HMG had no real interest in asking us anything. To claim that's not the case or wasn't understood by those who voted out is patent nonsense. Referenda are by definition binary choices 'yes/no', 'in/out' - the fine detail of what's entailed in those decisions is never a matter for the referendum but for what follows. We voted to leave - not to stay in some of it and slightly less in some of the what's left. What part of that can't you accept?

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35872080)

we may have been in front of the side or in front the rear of the bus or outside the inside or even inside the outside it doesn't really matter we are all going in the same direction on the same bus ;)

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35872144)

Let's hope that direction isn't of a cliff

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35872144)

Let's hope that direction isn't of a cliff

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35872096)

Just shows you didn't know what you voted for

yes we will leave the EU that's what the referendum ask.

I didn't see anything in the question regarding freedom of movement, take up that with negotiaton and vote leave if you feel that was what you were promised

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35872169)

tell that to Norway and Switzerland

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35872169)

tell that to Norway and Switzerland

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35872187)

The point is that it was their choice ,they want freedom of movement ,we have had it ,we don't want it anymore

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35872187)

The point is that it was their choice ,they want freedom of movement ,we have had it ,we don't want it anymore

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35872212)

50.3% actually voted in Switzerland against freedom of movement.
The Swiss Government understands that European countries (that don't plan to join the EU) have to have freedom of movement if they're to trade freely with it. So the Swiss Government did not implement the referendum result. It's a big issue there and may be resolved by...another referendum!
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...lenge-ivzgefr8
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ations-with-eu

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35872215)

You are trying to equate chalk with cheese. The Swiss constitution is totally different to ours.
For instance:
and
Our constituion does not allow for that.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35872259)

Brexit: Government could face legal challenge over single market

"The question of whether leaving the European Union means automatic withdrawal from the single market could be the subject of a legal challenge."
http://news.sky.com/story/brexit-gov...arket-10675569

"The basis of the legal action would be that the government has an opportunity to stay within the single market, but is rejecting it.

It will claim that Croatia, by joining the EEA nine months after the EU, has proven that the two organisations are separate, so leaving one need not mean leaving the other.

EEA membership is totally different to EU membership and would have to be negotiated sererately.


“The fact that the UK dismisses these arguments out of hand suggest that it is deliberately aiming for a hard Brexit outside the single market. This option was not on the referendum ballot paper,” he said, calling the legal challenge a “game-changer on every level”."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-single-market

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35872264)

These legal challenges (or threat of) are doing nothing other than attempting to override the democratic will of the majority. The Government has stated it respects the result of the referendum and will invoke article 50.

It's about time remoaners accepted that. Let them get on with it and give them room to negotiated the best deal for this country instead of trying to hamstring them.