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Taf 21-07-2026 15:24

Re: UK Energy Prices
 
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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36219983)
There're plenty of old mine shafts in the UK and I'd be very surprised if none were suitable for Gravity Based Energy Storage.

A large cage at the surface. Fill with illegal immigrants and allow to descend under gravity generating electricity. When at the bottom, the migrants get out and start to climb ladders to reach the distant surface again, thus keeping them contained until their asylum cases are decided. Meanwhile, the empty cage is hoisted back to the surface by the latest batch of illegal immigrants.

thenry 21-07-2026 15:26

Re: UK Energy Prices
 
You going to take them to Lidl for food?

Chris 21-07-2026 16:59

Re: UK Energy Prices
 
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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36219983)
There're plenty of old mine shafts in the UK and I'd be very surprised if none were suitable for Gravity Based Energy Storage.

They were all capped after being back filled with concrete so they coudn’t be re-opened.

I bLaMe MaGgY tHaTcHeR

Dingbat 23-07-2026 11:12

Re: UK Energy Prices
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36219993)
They were all capped after being back filled with concrete so they coudn’t be re-opened.

I bLaMe MaGgY tHaTcHeR

And mostly full of ground water after the pumps were turned off.

Carth 23-07-2026 11:23

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Originally Posted by Dingbat (Post 36220070)
And mostly full of ground water after the pumps were turned off.

Hush man, if the Government know they'll be claiming new reservoirs have been built :D

Dingbat 23-07-2026 11:29

Re: UK Energy Prices
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36220074)
Hush man, if the Government know they'll be claiming new reservoirs have been built :D

Yet Reform have previously said they want to reopen mines in South Wales, without mentioning that it would cost billions.

Who would want to work down the pit these days anyway?

https://bylinetimes.com/2025/06/09/n...orking-people/

nomadking 23-07-2026 11:38

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Originally Posted by Dingbat (Post 36219978)
A good first step. Now uncouple energy pricing, so that cheaper wind and solar, and nuclear, generation isn’t priced based on the cost of gas.

So who decides who gets any cheaper electricity? Would start a bidding war and you're right back where you started. How else do you think oil and gas prices are determined?

Carth 23-07-2026 11:44

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36220080)
So who decides who gets any cheaper electricity? Would start a bidding war and you're right back where you started. How else do you think oil and gas prices are determined?

Seems like the answer is if there's a couple of wars going on or not

Dingbat 23-07-2026 13:41

Re: UK Energy Prices
 
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36220080)
So who decides who gets any cheaper electricity? Would start a bidding war and you're right back where you started. How else do you think oil and gas prices are determined?

Turn that round. The price of electricity is currently set by the price of gas. Not by wind, or solar, or even nuclear. If 10% of the country’s electricity is generated by gas, why should it set the price for the other 90% of generation when the cost of using other power sources is significantly lower?

Paul 23-07-2026 17:49

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In the last 12 months, 25% of our electricity was generated by Gas, at times it was double that, today (so far) its 26.3%.

Hugh 23-07-2026 17:52

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Good link (imho) here that breaks it down

https://www.mygridgb.co.uk/last-12-months/

Paul 01-08-2026 02:39

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Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36219976)
VAT on Electricity bills axed from October 2026.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cgrkv8e8l9qt

As well as being for Electricity only, it turns out this is only for 6 months as well - VAT will return to 5% on April 1st 2027.

Carth 01-08-2026 09:26

Re: UK Energy Prices
 
Still VAT on the high gas usage over the winter months then . . . sounds about right :rolleyes:

Sirius 01-08-2026 09:41

Re: UK Energy Prices
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36220579)
Still VAT on the high gas usage over the winter months then . . . sounds about right :rolleyes:

I may be wrong but was the vat cut only on Electric ?

Carth 01-08-2026 10:25

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36220580)
I may be wrong but was the vat cut only on Electric ?

Yes, which as I posted, means VAT is still applied to the larger gas bills over the winter period. I would have preferred it the other way round to save me a few quid


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