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I think remain will win but by a very small majority because the scare mongering is having an effect and most of the younger people I've talked too (18-24) are voting remain for ridiculous reasons. So far it's been mobile roaming charges, holidays to Ibiza costing more and two even said they didn't want to pay more for brie, I must have missed the brie tariff but so far only two people in that age group I've talked too had looked into things and had a good reason for the way they were voting and there was a vote for each side from those two.

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No we don't pay the rebate out and get it back. The £350 million is a gross figure and Boris has said this. The rebate is not set in stone. France continually ask for it to be taken away. You may find this interesting:

European Union: Why does France continually push for the UK's EU rebate to be taken away when even after the rebate we pay in more than France?

https://www.quora.com/European-Union...re-than-France

Didn't Blair give some away? Think this may be a PDF File:

http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A7x9U...yaKD3Cg358fA0-

Why then trust it won't be effected if we remain.

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If they do win that will be the reason. However, it won't be the status quo. The EU will come down on us hard and think they can get away with murder.

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All this throwing round of that phrase. I personally don't think it is #scare mongering'

Its a genuine unknown situation and no one really knows what will happen. They are simply stating what the worst case scenario could be.

Why risk it?

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So why not tell us what the least case scenario would be? After all that is what's most likely to happen. It's scaremongering all right no two ways about it.

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If, as we know, it is the worst case scenario why don't they say that instead of putting it over as fact.

Scaremongering plain and simple.

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If they put out all the forecasts and let the public make the choice on which they felt was more likely that would be different but they are only putting out the very worst forecasts they can gather and though don't state it as fact they give that implication. It is scare mongering and even a lot of remain campaigners have described it as such so it's a valid term to describe remains tactic.

To answer the "why risk it" bit simple for me independence and sovereignty are more important and the future that remaining in the EU will bring which I do not think will be good economically nor that we are shielded from paying for it.

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The UK will remain in the EU permanently. That's the way it has to be. I guarantee it.

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Good article on Leave here if you have a subscription to The Times: http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/co...oing-237nxh2kd

It's a comment piece and is pro-Remain as a disclaimer.

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The only way you can guarantee it is if it should get fixed somehow and you know about it. Wouldn't surprise me if it was fixed in some way. I believe the Scottish referendum was fixed somehow but just can't put my finger on it.

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We were rather crafty and extended the vote to people who aren't on Twitter but don't tell them.

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LOL

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Well if the party wants us to stay then they aren't going to put anything out other than the worst case.

Its up to the leave party to tell us what could happen if we leave. But even they don't really know.

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We have told you what COULD happen, not what will. As you say no one knows. The upshot is the Government will be around £150 m a week better off.

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Which is peanuts when the economy crashes. We will be worse off overall.

The tide has certainly changed over the last week, I don't expect the result to be close at all. The polls are very wrong again, the silent majority always plump for the safe status quo, whilst the noisy minority answer opinion polls and post on forums ;)