Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35871755)

Well of course, but they can't admit that yet ! A lot of politicians from all sides aren't being straight on this; they are too worried about votes at the next election to say what they really think at the moment.

I did the old fashioned thing of writing to my MP on the issue. He's a Tory, but non the less a fairly reasonable bloke (!) He was on the remain side of the argument, and indeed his constituency voted to remain (being an educated place ;) ) But ever since the Referendum he's suddenly changed sides - my argument is he should represent his constituents views (and his own). However he seems to be more interested in his career (he's a junior minister) and not upsetting she who must be obeyed.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35871835)

Who is saying those who voted for Brexit are uneducated? and who says those who voted to stay in Europe are educated? as that one suspects that is a stereotypical view that does not stand up to any scrutiny at all.:)

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35871843)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...ucated-old-an/

The Torygraph doesn't lie Den. Time will tell but I suspect a lot of people will end up feeling misled.

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35871850)

An interesting use of statistics. I wonder why it didn't include areas where immigrants are now in the majority, eg. Blackburn, Burnley, Padiham, Birmingham et al, who are also entitled to vote and still voted leave? Then again most of those immigrants have been here for over a generation so I suppose they don't count for statistical purposes.

Perhaps if the "educated" areas of the country took thier fair share of immigrants then it could no longer be cited as an issue that only the "uneducated" are concerned with.

Would you accept that NIMBY= Educated? I'm sure it could be proved statistically.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35871835)

Who is saying those who voted for Brexit are uneducated? and who says those who voted to stay in Europe are educated? as that one suspects that is a stereotypical view that does not stand up to any scrutiny at all.:)

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35871875)

It was never said they were uneducated - an extensive exit poll carried out by Lord Ashcroft's polling organisation showed a large % of those who said they had voted for Brexit also stated they hadn't undertaken Further or Higher Education; rags like the Sun, Mail, and Express twisted this into saying Remainers saying Brexiteers were uneducated.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35871862)

Immigrants do not make up the majority of people in the towns and cities you mention.
The cities with high proportions of immigrants like London voted to remain.

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35871894)

The Telegraph begs to differ.





OK you know best how about an excessively large proportion of immigrants? Most are now 2nd or 3rd generation so have as much right to be here as anyone else yet those areas still voted Brexit.

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35871898)

Strange - I thought it agreed with me when it stated Which is the same as not undertaking Further or Higher Education...:confused:

It is their ham-fisted (or provocative, like the Sun, Mail, Express) way of interpreting what was said...

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35871894)

The Telegraph begs to differ.https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...aurants-brexit

OK you know best how about an excessively large proportion of immigrants? Most are now 2nd or 3rd generation so have as much right to be here as anyone else yet those areas still voted Brexit.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35871906)

A majority of people in these areas voted to leave the EU and that's their right. It would be interesting to see the immigration figures for these areas compared to the vote remain areas which are said to have high immigration rates.

One reason for these areas voting remain was that Asian communities were targeted by the Vote Leave campaign as it suggested a reduction in EU immigration would assist immigration from the Indian sub-continent.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...aurants-brexit

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35871908)

trying to curry favour from the referendum eh ;)

Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35871911)

I see what you did there ;)

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35871981)

Maybe they'll teach them how to spell 'sovereign' and 'independent'?

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35871998)

I'm uneducated, it's not my fault. I blame the government!