Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35204233)

soz mate totally disagree if you are getting movies and sports in HD you are already paying £7.00 extra for HD and if you get tivo there is another £3.00 charge making it £10.00 for a extra 25p you get over 50 HD channels,You could argue that you after pay another £9.00 for ESPN and its free with vm on xl.But lets face it this season if you are a premership fan you are only getting a quarter of the matches.VM finally admitted HD Channels was the future and that was only after constant badgering from customers and people leaving for sky,In there last quarter results the tv showed a massive increase.That was due to the excellent work that vm did in getting a large amount of HD Channels and even admitted that themselves and promised more,For the past nine months all we have seen is channels close and channels to be taken off just to be replaced by others.Constant promises and coming soons is now starting to wear thin and now wit this great product (tivo) its needs support from new channels especially HD,If you read recent reviews it makes reference to how many less HD channels vm have compared to sky.

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35204233)

soz mate totally disagree if you are getting movies and sports in HD you are already paying £7.00 extra for HD and if you get tivo there is another £3.00 charge making it £10.00 for a extra 25p you get over 50 HD channels,You could argue that you after pay another £9.00 for ESPN and its free with vm on xl.But lets face it this season if you are a premership fan you are only getting a quarter of the matches.VM finally admitted HD Channels was the future and that was only after constant badgering from customers and people leaving for sky,In there last quarter results the tv showed a massive increase.That was due to the excellent work that vm did in getting a large amount of HD Channels and even admitted that themselves and promised more,For the past nine months all we have seen is channels close and channels to be taken off just to be replaced by others.Constant promises and coming soons is now starting to wear thin and now wit this great product (tivo) its needs support from new channels especially HD,If you read recent reviews it makes reference to how many less HD channels vm have compared to sky.

Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35204228)

Jesus wept!!:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35204233)

soz mate totally disagree if you are getting movies and sports in HD you are already paying £7.00 extra for HD and if you get tivo there is another £3.00 charge making it £10.00 for a extra 25p you get over 50 HD channels,You could argue that you after pay another £9.00 for ESPN and its free with vm on xl.But lets face it this season if you are a premership fan you are only getting a quarter of the matches.VM finally admitted HD Channels was the future and that was only after constant badgering from customers and people leaving for sky,In there last quarter results the tv showed a massive increase.That was due to the excellent work that vm did in getting a large amount of HD Channels and even admitted that themselves and promised more,For the past nine months all we have seen is channels close and channels to be taken off just to be replaced by others.Constant promises and coming soons is now starting to wear thin and now wit this great product (tivo) its needs support from new channels especially HD,If you read recent reviews it makes reference to how many less HD channels vm have compared to sky.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35204238)

You're missing the poiny of my post. I wasn't saying VM don't need more channels. I agree they do.

I was saying that, in my view, to say, as jonandmarkuk did, that Tivo is 'pointless' with the current VM channel content is wrong..

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35204243)

Got yer matey,Hope i haven`t offended.

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35204243)

Just think i have wrote what most people are thinking,I aint calling VM.I compliment them for all the hard work they have done and certainly applaud them for listening to customers and doing something about it,But they now need to listen to us again tivo is not going to bring massive amounts of customers alone it need support form new channels.Take muppetman11,He didnt want to leave just wanted new channels like us all in the end he got sick of waiting and i know plenty more who have done the same.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35204249)

Definitely not.




I agree with that. And re Tivo, I think it will be interesting to see if it attracts any Sky customers.

Some people want to add HD channels even if it means an HD charge similar to Sky's £10.25 a month charge. I personally am not in favour of that and prefer HD channels free, even if it means VM have to wait a little longer to get them at a decent price.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35204250)

But those with sky premiums and TiVo are paying a tenner anyway for far less HD channels.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35204249)

Definitely not.




I agree with that. And re Tivo, I think it will be interesting to see if it attracts any Sky customers.

Some people want to add HD channels even if it means an HD charge similar to Sky's £10.25 a month charge. I personally am not in favour of that and prefer HD channels free, even if it means VM have to wait a little longer to get them at a decent price.

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35204262)

The waits not the problem,but nine months is a bit of a joke.Vm defo have the right approach,Sky just chuck money at channels just to get them.Dont want vm to start doing that,But really thought vm would have had some new channels to back tivo at the launch party.As i stated in a earlier post breaks my heart to give sky any of my money im pro vm all the way;)

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DF as been quiet today,Hope he has gone looking for some HD Channels lol

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35204337)

I agree Sky probably do chuck money around to get HD channels but their customers pay for the priviledge, it's the £300 million+ a year they reap in HD subs they are chucking around.

That's the path they have chosen and over 3 million punters (me included) seem OK with that. VM have followed a different path so it's upto the customer which they prefer.

What I do know is when you don't pay extra for basic HD you simply cannot have it both ways. I sometimes take the mickey but to get 12 pay HD channels included in XL isn't bad you know, not at all but it isn't for me.

Choose accordingly.

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35204353)

Well said mate. If people do have the option to choose between SKY or Virgin, I can't understand why they post on this forum that they are unhappy with the channels and content that Virgin provide. If you have the option to do so, then go to SKY it really is that simple. If you continue to stay with Virgin paying them your hard earned money for a service your not happy with then when it boils right down to it your a mug.

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35204353)

Well said mate. If people do have the option to choose between SKY or Virgin, I can't understand why they post on this forum that they are unhappy with the channels and content that Virgin provide. If you have the option to do so, then go to SKY it really is that simple. If you continue to stay with Virgin paying them your hard earned money for a service your not happy with then when it boils right down to it your a mug.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35204359)

Some households cannot have Sky.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35204359)

Some households cannot have Sky.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35204359)

Some households cannot have Sky.