Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I paid half price reconnection to BT using an offer they have online until 9th May 2008.
http://www.serviceview.bt.com/list/p...Impl133605.htm

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Hi Alexander - yes, I made the offer for you to put all your questions to Kent in person which you declined

The offer still stands so let me know how we can make that work

Alex @ Phorm

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Thanks, i am going to wait and see if VM implement phorm(spyware)before i jump ship. I would love to see the cable market opened for competition.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Well, a guarantee not to selectively quote from the conversation might be a start... ;)

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Alex @ Phorm,

Given the misquoting of Dr Richard Clayton over the weekend on Phorm's blog and antics on Wikipedia, I am not comfortable with the prospect of a telephone/voice call. I fear you would be able to deny anything I may wish to bring to the attention of the public and that you may misquote me for your PR campaign.

If Kent would like to have a discussion with me, it would need to be in an open, online environment which can be logged by independent 3rd parties and witnessed by the general public. I would suggest a chat room where I can pose my questions to Kent and the public can see his responses in real time.

If Phorm truly want to be transparent, surely they will accept these terms?

Furthermore, I am still awaiting your answers with regards to the questions I raised concerning the illegal trials of Phorm Inc.'s technology by BT in 2006/2007 which the ICO statement today has effectively reinforced the opinion of myself and many others that they failed to meet the requirements of PECR.

Alexander Hanff

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Was this offer based upon Alexander's previous questioning/browsing habits?

It would appear, although I wouldn't wish to speak for Alexander obviously, that he's chosen to 'opt out' at this time :D

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Looks like he beat me to it :)

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

For the amount of time Phorm has people lurking on here I'm surprised you haven't read Alexander's response:

Open, honest, direct, spin-free answers placed in the public domain by technical people, not PR sections is what's appropriate here. The questions and concerns are out there. By misquoting Richard Clayton and trying to spin the facts about the Wikipedia page "editing" you do yourselves no favours.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

From CaptainJamieHunters post below, Kent might want to think about chatting up Neil Berkett as well. ;)

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8 posts down. Such activity!

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

opening the cable market might be the best thing, but id settle for a

"mear conduit", as in no phorm type operations etc.

3rd party Co-location internal space.

3rd party STB's
DVB-C cards +VM smartcard for sale and rent.

and the foolish 1 cable modem per account rule removed.

plus other bit and bobs OC.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

With regards the public meeting in London on Tuesday.

It would be useful if we could come up with some fliers over the weekend for people who are attending the meeting to hand out when they arrive. Also it would be great if we get a bunch of people turning up in anti Phorm t-shirts! I realise it is short notice and would require people to spend some of their hard earned money, but I think it would be worth it, especially as I fully expect members of the press to be present.

If someone could come up with a vector graphic which people can download and take to their local T-Shirt printing company, it should be possible to get them on time.

Another good idea would be for people to take banners with them. if we could have a contingent outside of the meeting making passers by aware of the issues, it could go a long way to raising some more public awareness on this scandal.

Alexander Hanff

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Thanks for your clarification Alexander.

I can't wait to read your paper once it's finished

Ali xx

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

LOL, some people might even enjoy this as a bit of fun... at the meeting.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04..._ico/comments/
"
Dressing up

By Anonymous Coward
Posted Tuesday 8th April 2008 10:21 GMT
Wayland Sothcott makes a good point in saying "It's gonna take some people dressed as spiderman to get this really noticed."

So why not? Lets all pitch up outside Phorm/BT HQ/ICO's office/Trafalgar square identically dressed in "Spy" gear - you know; trilby (with BT logo in the hatband), CIA mac, mirror shades.

Bring along conspicuously large notebooks and start writing down behavioural patterns of passing members of the public / BT staff.

I'm sure the odd newsroom could be persuaded to take an interest; take pics, video etc and knock out a press release for later dispatch. Any takers?"

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

We should maybe start a new thread for people who are intending to go to the meeting. That way they can arrange to meet up if any anti phorm publicity material gets put together and get organised.

Alexander Hanff

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I've emailed 80/20 asking if the meeting can be broadcast on a web feed or recorded as a podcast. I'm sure there are many people such as myself who would like to attend but are unable due to location or other commitments.

Ali.

P.s I can understand the meeting being held in London, but at times I think people forget that life exists North of the M25.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Have Phorm come phorward and ophered the name of the QC they used?

A cursory Google on the phrase "QC opinion" just happens to reveal a link to Backlash UK which is a campaign against the Criminal Justice Bill. They have a QC's legal opinion to back up their case and guess what? His name is at the bottom of the opinion document (Please note that this is a discussion of proposals relating to "extreme pornography" in this proposed legislation so please bear that in mind when clicking the link)

Just wondering.