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joglynne 09-01-2021 15:40
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36066018)
Liz Windsor and Phil the Greek have had their jabs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55602007
A well timed announcement..Hopefully this will reasure the older people who have been reluctant to have the Covid vaccination. My Doctor's practice has been quite worried about the numbers who have refused to have it done, so much scaremongering going about.

jfman 09-01-2021 16:00
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36066018)
Liz Windsor and Phil the Greek have had their jabs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55602007
I bet they don't wait 12 weeks for their second dose.

papa smurf 09-01-2021 16:03
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36066028)
I bet they don't wait 12 weeks for their second dose.
That didn't take long did it;)

Pierre 09-01-2021 16:41
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36065979)
Why would all the Governments of the world, even the ones who hate each other, do this?
Control. An afraid population is easier to control.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36065990)
I'm guessing that Pierre thinks that we need to exaggerate the global pandemic as people wouldn't comply with the restrictions if we told it "accurately".
You could put it that way.

Hugh 09-01-2021 17:01
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36066034)
Control. An afraid population is easier to control.

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You could put it that way.
But what about the autocratic Governments that already control their population - what's in it for them, as they already have that power?

Are all the Pharma/Biosimilar companies part of this conspiracy as well, including all the virologists and epidemiologists who don't work for them?

Does that mean there aren't all those sick people in hospitals all over the world, and that all the medics in all the countries are lying?

jfman 09-01-2021 17:24
Re: Coronavirus
 
Why would countries like New Zealand work so hard to eliminate the virus in that case and not just let a few cases in, and bring in restrictions all over again?

Pierre 09-01-2021 17:50
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36066042)
But what about the autocratic Governments that already control their population - what's in it for them, as they already have that power?
You can never have too much power

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Are all the Pharma/Biosimilar companies part of this conspiracy as well, including all the virologists and epidemiologists who don't work for them?
What conspiracy?

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Does that mean there aren't all those sick people in hospitals all over the world, and that all the medics in all the countries are lying?
No, why would you suggest that?

Damien 09-01-2021 21:57
Re: Coronavirus
 
The hospitals are reaching a crisis point. What would you want them to do differently? I am struggling to see what exactly you're objecting too in these threads because you complain about the government/NHS not having a plan whilst seeming to suggest the Government are scaremongering even as the cases and deaths go off the chart.

papa smurf 10-01-2021 09:13
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36066069)
The hospitals are reaching a crisis point. What would you want them to do differently? I am struggling to see what exactly you're objecting too in these threads because you complain about the government/NHS not having a plan whilst seeming to suggest the Government are scaremongering even as the cases and deaths go off the chart.
When this all started there was media coverage all over the news ,now there is just words ,maybe if these hospitals at "crisis" point were televised live it might go some way to convince people it was true.

Hugh 10-01-2021 09:28
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36066090)
When this all started there was media coverage all over the news ,now there is just words ,maybe if these hospitals at "crisis" point were televised live it might go some way to convince people it was true.
Do you mean like there was on the BBC news yesterday?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36065979)
Why would all the Governments of the world, even the ones who hate each other, do this?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36065973)
Probably not, as that wouldn’t make it look as bad as it does, and we need to keep the country at peak fear.

At least this new variant seems to rippping through the population at a pace, vaccination + infection at this speed and we’ll all be done by spring!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36066049)
You can never have too much power



What conspiracy?


No, why would you suggest that?

papa smurf 10-01-2021 09:33
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36066091)
Do you mean like there was on the BBC news yesterday?

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If it was inside a covid ward then yes but show more

Hugh 10-01-2021 09:35
Re: Coronavirus
 
Yes, it was.

Maggy 10-01-2021 09:49
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36066090)
When this all started there was media coverage all over the news ,now there is just words ,maybe if these hospitals at "crisis" point were televised live it might go some way to convince people it was true.
I can't get away from the coverage of the pandemic on the BBC or Sky or any other media outlet so I can't see your point.

papa smurf 10-01-2021 10:14
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36066097)
I can't get away from the coverage of the pandemic on the BBC or Sky or any other media outlet so I can't see your point.
No change there then.

joglynne 10-01-2021 11:33
Re: Coronavirus
 
The Manchester Evening News has published an article to-day written by David Oliver who is an experienced NHS Consultant Physician and medical writer from Manchester.

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He has played a variety of national medical leadership and policy roles and has a weekly column in the British Medical Journal.

He currently manages Covid wards at a hospital in the south of England. Here, he takes on three arguments commonly made by 'lockdown sceptics' - arguments he says are undermining public safety.

It's quite a long article but having closely followed this thread from its first post through to the this morning's posts I I have a good idea which of oiur members will bother to read it and which will dismiss it immediatly because for various reasons they consider that what they are being told is either downright lies meant o scare the "poor gulible fools who cower away behind the barracades" or the "I know better than all the experts and I refuse to accept that there is a problem or worse still the " well if I don't actually know any one who died and everyone I know who got wasn't that ill" so why do I have follow any guidelines.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...s-who-19584621


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