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Agreed

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I’d say equally the rest of you are doing the same. The fact you are blind to your collective hypocrisy is actually quite alarming.

I’ve been berating the hypocrisy of American foreign policy for years. If that’s a revelation to anyone on the basis of yesterday’s posts then hello, I’m jfman pleased to meet you.

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Actually I’m really not bothered what you think about American foreign policy. What I find distasteful is that you’re prepared to play down Russian war crimes and the suffering of Ukrainians - especially non-combatant women and children - just to help you make a rhetorical point about American foreign policy.

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What I find distasteful is America (and it’s allies) playing up the suffering of Ukranians when it is quite happy to expedite human suffering around the world that aligns with it’s own economic or geopolitical interests. It’s quite happy to manufacture lies and propaganda that people - with the best will in the world like yourself - fall for hook, line and sinker. Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. 40 beheaded babies, etc.

If it can’t hold those views consistently, and apply it universally, then it’s just an emotive punchline in a propaganda device.

I’m also firmly of the view that America will let Ukraine down just as it let down the people of Afghanistan.

Similarly objectionable is your efforts to slur a legitimate political movement - Scottish independence - as some kind of Russian funded disruption effort yet your blind spot that the same principles would apply to the UK leaving the EU. Conservative MPs, Labour MPs and Farage have all taken money from RT. Although we are at this point moving some distance from the subject of the thread so I’ll leave it there.

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Indeed we are. And as we return to the substance of the thread I repeat my observation that you have made light of the kidnap of Ukrainian children, which is a war crime. Putin and a member of his administration are wanted in The Hague over it. Perhaps you could acknowledge that suggesting it’s not all that bad for the children involved was at least ill considered?

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Yes and no…

https://www.unicef.org/eca/documents...aines-children

More up to date info (till the end of January)

https://reliefweb.int/report/ukraine...dren%20injured.

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In any case, I’m not sure anyone deserves credit for kidnapping children from a combat zone that is only a combat zone because they made it into one by crossing an internationally recognised frontier.

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I have absolutely not made 'light' of the 'kidnap' of Ukrainian children. Nor did I suggest it was not 'all bad' for them. I was merely drawing comparison between that and another ongoing conflict where I hear very little about the plight of children.

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A child dying every day in Palestine since October 7th would be something like 130. Against their peers in carrying out alleged genocide one can only note the data.

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One can only note that it seems to someone that it’s who’s doing the child-killing makes criticism applicable…

https://media.tenor.com/qY7WBiRXMZsA...nks-soviet.gif

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Of course he would.

It's also most likely the only way this conflict ends.

There is no indication that Ukraine can push Russia back from its territory, and certainly no indication that it can remove Russia from Crimea.

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And then, in a couple of years, he takes some more bordering Oblasts…

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Ultimately America will let Ukraine down, despite all the hype. The Democrats are probably stalling on doing it because it’s an election year and hoping Trump does their dirty work for them. There’s little ongoing value in continuing to throw good money after bad, the Ukrainian troops aren’t up to the task ahead of them and they aren’t being given resources required even if they were. They’re just fodder at the front with little resource and flawed tactics.

Russia having successfully shifted it’s industries from relying on the West to working with China, India and the global south have managed to keep their war economy on track and stronger now in 2024 than it was in 2022. A picture unlikely to change for the rest of the decade unless the west go down the World War 3 route.