Cable Forum - General Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.

Could that mean that us V+ XL customers will have access? If access is available to Tivo users without using their Tivo, why shouldn't V+ users be in the same situation?

The press release is a bit oddly worded:

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Virgin Media TiVo households with Virgin Media broadband can also make full use of their superfast 30Mb, 60Mb or 120Mb broadband speeds in addition to the dedicated TiVo connection.

I think what it's trying to say is that the TiVo connection doesn't impact the broadband.

In regards to V+ HD customers having 'access' you already do - via devices that run the Netflix app. Remember all this is doing is putting a Netflix app on TiVo initally. Same as there is a YouTube app

nialli

10-09-2013 10:47

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Sky and Netflix are competitors for content in the UK so I can't see them tying up. Sky's pre-emptive OFCOM defying strike of signing up exclusives with all the big Hollywood studios and HBO that limits what Netflix has available here.
US service has a vastly superior catalogue - it'll be interesting to see if those with a US Netflix account (you can legally access Netflix US content via a VPN) will work on the TiVo.
There's no reason that this will lessen the likelihood of Sky Atlantic et al arriving. Maybe some are applying the logic that VM had to spend cash on either more Sky HD channels or Netflix, but there's no evidence of that being the situation.
I think it's great news.

BenMcr

10-09-2013 10:47

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Originally Posted by Perfect Choice (Post 35620247)

What latest updates to Tivo software, have I missed something or is that the release which was actually ages ago!? Think it is the latter, just made me think a new update was on the way for a moment.

A new update is on the way

andy_m

10-09-2013 10:48

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Originally Posted by dgcarter (Post 35620232)

Don't I recall another promise, to port the TIVO User interface to the other boxes?

Yeah, did you hear the one about an android version of the tv anywhere app as well?

Broken promises aside, I notice that this tie up with Netflix will be the first such deal between an ott service and a pay tv operator, and the reason one hasn't happened before is the old "rights issues" chestnut. I really hope this isn't another multi room sharing situation where we get a restricted service at launch with a promise of more to come soon because they haven't resolved all of the rights issues.

BenMcr

10-09-2013 10:48

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Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35620250)

it'll be interesting to see if those with a US Netflix account (you can legally access Netflix US content via a VPN) will work on the TiVo.

As you can't change the DNS on the built in TiVo connection, then no it won't

nialli

10-09-2013 10:53

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35620254)

As you can't change the DNS on the built in TiVo connection, then no it won't

Fair enough

steveh

10-09-2013 10:56

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35620187)

It's about time Virgin delivered on their "hundreds of apps" promise

The growth in second-screen usage with tablets has probably already made redundant the idea of large numbers of set top box apps.

passingbat

10-09-2013 10:57

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Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35620243)

Also noted that customers can also use their standard broadband connection in addition to the Tivo in-built one.

I suspect eventually they will up the dedicated line to the Tivo to maybe 20mb/s if customers are experiencing problems streaming Netflix without their own broadband.

Netflix Super HD is around 7mb/s and it's good to have headroom so the 10 meg tivo connection is cutting it close maybe.

Of more concern is that tivo doesn't currently have a1080p setting and much of Netflix content is 1080p. Fixed in the other updates refered to maybe?

andy_m

10-09-2013 10:59

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Originally Posted by steveh (Post 35620259)

The growth in second-screen usage with tablets has probably already made redundant the idea of large numbers of set top box apps.

Maybe. Makes it a silly thing to say, though. I reckon there remains a sizeable number of people who just simply want everything in the same place.

DaMac

10-09-2013 11:00

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35620157)

Never really had a problem with this personally. I did however lose all TV service via Virgin Media TiVo a couple of times, once for 2 days, whilst their network was down. Scottish Gas dug up one of Virgins cables in error :shocked:

The lesson is, regardless of TV provider, it's good to have Freeview built in to your TV just incase :D

My mrs had the freesat on watching food network on Sunday when all of a sudden the heavens opened and we lost signal on most channels for about 5 mins

spiderplant

10-09-2013 11:13

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35620260)

Netflix Super HD is around 7mb/s and it's good to have headroom so the 10 meg tivo connection is cutting it close maybe.

Don't panic. It works fine.

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35620260)

Of more concern is that tivo doesn't currently have a1080p setting and much of Netflix content is 1080p. Fixed in the other updates refered to maybe?

Ditto.

ocav	10-09-2013 11:17

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35620245)

Could that mean that us V+ XL customers will have access? If access is available to Tivo users without using their Tivo, why shouldn't V+ users be in the same situation?

Nope, I believe it means that you will be able to hook your Tivo up to your Superhub and stream Netflix through that connection rather than your dedicated Tivo connection, which means if the VM Network goes down and you still have Broadband, Netflix will continue to work.

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35620249)

The press release is a bit oddly worded:

I think what it's trying to say is that the TiVo connection doesn't impact the broadband.

In regards to V+ HD customers having 'access' you already do - via devices that run the Netflix app. Remember all this is doing is putting a Netflix app on TiVo initally. Same as there is a YouTube app

I think its that you can access Netflix on your Tivo using your own broadband rather than using the in-built one.

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35620260)

But a lot of people still experience issues with BBC iPlayer and YouTube streaming on the Tivo and they dont even need 7mb/s?

And yes hopefully it will allow 1080p output when using Netflix and then switch to 1080i for Broadcast/OD. If not ill use the Smart TV App

gemma307

10-09-2013 11:19

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Originally Posted by steveh (Post 35620259)

The growth in second-screen usage with tablets has probably already made redundant the idea of large numbers of set top box apps.

Not very one uses a tablet

BenMcr

10-09-2013 11:42

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Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35620269)

It doesn't say that though. It specifically says 'Virgin Media broadband', not any broadband connection.

And Tivo's Internet connection is only via its own built in link, not via ethernet .

freakgirl

10-09-2013 11:51

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How do well find out if we're one of those customers who get to use netflix on the pilot scheme virgin are doing before it becomes available for everyone

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