Cable Forum - Will Scotland Leave the UK?

The English regions are funded because it's all the same country. Scotland is different because of the devolved Parliament but, although independence would cost them, they're reasonably prosperous compared to a lot of English regions.

Breaking up the Union would damage us both. It's completely nuts and counterproductive. It will achieve nothing but cause more problems for everyone.

The excessive funding that Scotland receives started long before any devolved parliament. The Barnett formula was from 1978 and even it's predecessor, the 1888 Goschen formula was over-generous.

Kursk

17-03-2017 00:05

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35890399)

Yep, like Leanne Wood & Plaid Cymru have really got a handle on it! ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dghdvVbtowM

A crucial difference: the SNP governs in Scotland, Plaid Cymru does not in Wales and probably never will.

passingbat

17-03-2017 07:42

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35890406)

A crucial difference: the SNP governs in Scotland, Plaid Cymru does not in Wales and probably never will.

The point was to show, for Mr K's benefit (his Welsh blood reference), how confused Leanne Wood & Plaid Cymru are over Brexit and the single market.

Kursk

17-03-2017 09:25

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35890417)

The point was to show, for Mr K's benefit (his Welsh blood reference), how confused Leanne Wood & Plaid Cymru are over Brexit and the single market.

Understood. My comment was just a bit of info for anyone who might not know that Nationalism in Wales is less relevant and Wales voted to leave the EU; both are fundamental differences to Scotland.
Leanne Wood and Plaid do not represent the majority view in Wales.

Chris

17-03-2017 12:50

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Scotland In Union poster campaign launched today:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1489755131

Osem	17-03-2017 14:01

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35890443)

Scotland In Union poster campaign launched today: :

Edit Salmond's ugly mug into that image and it'd be perfect. :D

Kursk

17-03-2017 16:04

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35890463)

Edit Salmond's ugly mug into that image and it'd be perfect. :D

Would need to pluralise then to REFERENDUMMIES ;)

TheDaddy

17-03-2017 16:09

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I'd vote in this referendum, definitely

http://southendnewsnetwork.com/news/...st-bugger-off/

Osem	17-03-2017 17:15

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http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...0&d=1489761368

pip08456

17-03-2017 17:37

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35890481)

I'd vote in this referendum, definitely

http://southendnewsnetwork.com/news/...st-bugger-off/

Count me in!

RizzyKing

17-03-2017 17:48

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Yeah me too I'm already sick of the woman and I've avoided it as much as i can.

Taf	17-03-2017 20:45

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35889845)

Many in the SNP joined when the party was a small bunch of wackjobs with no chance or prospect of power. Don't underestimate the sacrifices they would go to to achieve their goal. They would drive the party into the ditch if it meant Independence.

Ditto Plaid Cymru, it's all they exist for....

Hom3r

17-03-2017 22:03

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35890369)

Steady on old chap. The SNP might not be everyone's cup of tea south of the border but Scots are fantastic people; we should distinguish between the political ambitions of a minority and the integrity, bravery and decency of the Scottish people as a whole whom we should all celebrate and value.

My Granddad was Scottish, I was just saying if the vote to leave the UK they must told those titles are now honorary.

1andrew1

17-03-2017 22:55

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To her credit, Theresa May was last year talking about the issues of Brexit and Scottish devolution...

"If Brexit isn’t fatal to the European Union, we might find that it is fatal to the Union with Scotland. The SNP have already said that in the event that Britain votes to leave but Scotland votes to remain in the EU, they will press for another Scottish independence referendum.
"And the opinion polls show consistently that the Scottish people are more likely to be in favour of EU membership than the people of England and Wales.
“If the people of Scotland are forced to choose between the United Kingdom and the European Union we do not know what the result would be.
"But only a little more than eighteen months after the referendum that kept the United Kingdom together, I do not want to see the country I love at risk of dismemberment once more.
"I do not want the people of Scotland to think that English Eurosceptics put their dislike of Brussels ahead of our bond with Edinburgh and Glasgow.
"I do not want the European Union to cause the destruction of an older and much more precious Union, the Union between England and Scotland…
“We should remain in the EU.”
http://www.conservativehome.com/parl...-full-text.htm

RizzyKing

18-03-2017 03:30

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Despite the differences the snp love to play on there is a far better relationship between the members of the UK then scotland will ever get in the EU and the EU certainly won't treat scotland as beneficially as the UK union does. I think most scots realise that and even if they get another vote it will be to remain in the union especially as the snp cannot manipulate revenue from oil to pay for all the unicorns and rainbows like last time. All things considered the better future for scotland lies with the union not the EU.

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