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Hugh 21-04-2026 12:06
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36214247)
aah, thanks for explaining, although it's a fancy name for a secretary isn't it?

:D
Permanent Under-Secretary

Carth 21-04-2026 13:53
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Under the circumstances, I think 'permanent' was a tad shorter than expected :D

Chris 21-04-2026 14:59
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Permanent secretary means senior civil servant in a government department, as opposed to a private secretary who is an MP working for a minister.

Carth 21-04-2026 15:46
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36214255)
Permanent secretary means senior civil servant in a government department, as opposed to a private secretary who is an MP working for a minister.
They make things complicated don't they, no wonder they look confused most of the time

Dingbat 21-04-2026 15:57
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36214256)
They make things complicated don't they, no wonder they look confused most of the time
Think back to Yes, Minister and the ways in which Sir Humphrey and other senior civil servants were able to manipulate their ministers.

Even Thatcher knew how accurate the depictions of the government were.

Itshim 21-04-2026 19:57
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Originally Posted by Dingbat (Post 36214257)
Think back to Yes, Minister and the ways in which Sir Humphrey and other senior civil servants were able to manipulate their ministers.

Even Thatcher knew how accurate the depictions of the government were.
It seems a 5 year old can manipulate Starmer :p:

Sephiroth 21-04-2026 20:11
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There's a big disjoint in Starmer's case. He's complaining that he wasn't told that Mandelson had failed vetting. Yet, Mandelson was actually granted DV status. It was within the PUS' remit to grant clearance if the mitigations were achievable.

The disjoint arises because he pleads guilty to poor judgement in choosing Mandelson. To deflect this away, Starmer complains of something that isn't true: Namely that he wasn't told that Mandelson had failed vetting.

The UKVS vetting is just one stage in the process. The process is only complete when the procuring senior officer has rendered a decision.

So, squirm, baby, squirm. More fun to come, plus May 7th.

1andrew1 21-04-2026 20:36
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Starmer will survive thiis. What happens after the May elections is another matter but his chances of survival would probably be zero if Andy Burnham was now an MP.

Carth 21-04-2026 21:00
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I think they should tell him to bugger off and take his baggage with him . . then they can get that nice Dianne Abbott back and have her as PM . . she was funny as, and we need a good laugh :D

thenry 21-04-2026 21:13
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She's fake. She wears a wig.

Carth 21-04-2026 21:20
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36214276)
She's fake. She wears a wig.
A lot of clowns do mate ;)

GrimUpNorth 22-04-2026 06:29
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36214275)
I think they should tell him to bugger off and take his baggage with him . . then they can get that nice Dianne Abbott back and have her as PM . . she was funny as, and we need a good laugh :D
Could you imagine a Di and Don press conference :shocked:.

1andrew1 22-04-2026 06:53
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36214275)
. she was funny as, and we need a good laugh :D
People said something similar about Trump. We're not laughing now!

Itshim 22-04-2026 07:17
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At least Boris was entertaining. Starmer is like a old wooden puppet. With Rachel from accounts looking like a nodding dog next to him. Looking forward to Vince's role model at question time, ignoring any and every question put to him.

1andrew1 22-04-2026 07:56
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36214286)
At least Boris was entertaining.
"At least they died laughing" is one way of excusing deaths due to his Covid bungles I guess!


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